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Draft order/NFC east draft tiebreaks

ray in arlington : 12/9/2018 10:50 pm

Draft Order
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Number in parentheses is NYG SOS relative to the listed team, a negative number means NYG has a weaker SOS than that team (i.e. NYG trending to pick ahead of that team for in case of a tie). For example, NYG SOS is currently 8 games weaker than JAC, meaning NYG is trending to pick ahead of JAC in case of a tie.)
1. SF 3-10 (-3.5)
2. ARI 3-10 (-5.5)
3. OAK 3-10 (-13.5)
4. ATL 4-9 (+3)
5. NYJ 4-9 (0)
6. BUF 4-9 (-5.5)
7. JAC 4-9 (-8)
8. TB 5-8 (+1)
9. NYG 5-8
10. DET 5-8 (-0.5)
11. CIN 5-8 (-5.5)
12. GB 5-7-1 (+4.5)
13. CLE 5-7-1 (-3.5)
14. WAS 6-7 (+3)
15. CAR 6-7 (+1)
16. PHI 6-7 (-7.5)
17. DEN 6-7 (-6.5)

Draft tiebreak vs WAS (there's just 2 non-common games)
WAS = wGB + wARI = 5.5 + 3 = 8.5
NYG = wCHI + wSF = 8 + 3 = 11
So WAS is trending to pick ahead of NYG (since they have the smaller total)

Draft tiebreak vs PHI
PHI = wLAR + wMIN = 11 + 6.5 = 17.5
NYG = wCHI + wSF = 8 + 3 = 11
Giants close to clinching this tiebreak (would clinch if LAR beats CHI tonight)

So at 8-8 record

micky : 12/9/2018 11:22 pm : link

They'll be in mid to late teens picking.

Thanks ray...

Chris in Philly : 12/10/2018 12:05 am : link

Always appreciate the effort you put into these.

Well

jeff57 : 12/10/2018 5:38 am : link

They definitely won�t be in the top 3.

RE: So at 8-8 record

Milton : 12/10/2018 6:01 am : link

In comment 14212158 micky said:

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They'll be in mid to late teens picking.

After spending the bulk of the season with no real hope of the playoffs, that would be a bit of a bummer, but the intangible benefits of finishing 7-1 would be well worth it. The only real drag would be if they either a) missed out on a targeted QB (i.e, my current favorite: Drew Lock) or b) had to trade up for a QB. But if it's another draft where none of the 1st round QBs float their boat, then the difference between drafting in the back of the top ten vs the back of the top twenty is no big deal.

Remove the QBs from the last year's equation and the bottom of the top ten was Quenton Nelson, Roquan Smith, and Mike McGlinchey while the bottom of the top twenty was Tremaine Edmunds, Derwin James, Jaire Alexander, Leighton Homosexual, and Frank Ragnow. The Giants would be just as well off with the next Derwin James or Frank Ragnow as they would be with the next Roquan Smith or Mike McGlinchey. It's only if they miss out on a QB over it that it will matter.

Foobarbaz : 12/10/2018 6:01 am : link

I hope there will be good passrusher still when we pick. Really wanted Nick Bosa with a OV and Carter for rotation. OV been really putting pressure but with Wyn on other side, he's underwelming. Be an interesting off season can't wait

I�ve been waiting.

Big Blue '56 : 12/10/2018 7:06 am : link

Thanks Ray

RE: RE: So at 8-8 record

ajr2456 : 12/10/2018 7:28 am : link

In comment 14212260 Milton said:

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the difference between drafting in the back of the top ten vs the back of the top twenty is no big deal.

That�s simply not true. There is a big advantage to picking in the top 10 of the draft and being in the back of the top 20.

It�s a lot easier to come away with your first two picks having major impacts when you�re picking high in the draft.

RE: .

Milton : 12/10/2018 7:43 am : link

In comment 14212261 Foobarbaz said:

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I hope there will be good passrusher still when we pick.

Other than RB, it doesn't matter to me the position as long as it's a guy who returns 1st round value. Think what another WR could mean to the offense if he's really good. And obviously an OL--whether inside or outside--who can play at plus level would mean a lot to the offense. A pass rusher would mean a lot to the defense, but so would a shutdown CB or a playmaking safety. I just want them to add a guy with Pro Bowls in his future. Does Bradley Chubb mean more to the Broncos than Derwin James means to the Chargers?

James

Sammo85 : 12/10/2018 9:05 am : link

has been sensational for the Chargers.