I watch most of the Cowboy games and since they got Cooper they are dangerous in spite of Dak’s flaws. Last night Dak kept the game close because of his turnovers (3) but he was clutch down the stretch. The Cowboys have a young athletic defense that can shut down a good offense. They are going to be the team we will have beat to get in the playoffs. When I look at the Giants talent we need quite a few pieces to fall in place to be competitive in the division. The biggest being QB.
Jerry Jones will pay DL big money to stay.
If they find a TE in the draft to replace Witten the offense will be formidable. Dak will just need to manage games going forward.
I thought their D looked pretty good yesterday. They do not look like a powerhouse. Let's see how big blue does week 17
I thought their D looked pretty good yesterday. They do not look like a powerhouse. Let's see how big blue does week 17
Are you implying we are winning the division? Is that even a possibility? At best we'd be tied with Dallas but wouldn't they hqve the tiebreaker over us?
I thought their D looked pretty good yesterday. They do not look like a powerhouse. Let's see how big blue does week 17
Pretty bad times when the giants have to make their final regular season game vs cowboys "their Super Bowl"
Of course
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and make week 17 the Giants' Super Bowl. I hope they can crush Dallas dreams this year, forget the future.
I thought their D looked pretty good yesterday. They do not look like a powerhouse. Let's see how big blue does week 17
Pretty bad times when the giants have to make their final regular season game vs cowboys "their Super Bowl"
Yes, these are the low times, but things might be trending up and winning that game when Dallas needs it would be great.
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and make week 17 the Giants' Super Bowl. I hope they can crush Dallas dreams this year, forget the future.
I thought their D looked pretty good yesterday. They do not look like a powerhouse. Let's see how big blue does week 17
Are you implying we are winning the division? Is that even a possibility? At best we'd be tied with Dallas but wouldn't they hqve the tiebreaker over us?
I am implying that I think this team is looking better. One knock is they have not beat a "good team". Well, I think all three final opponents have winning records. If the Giants keep trending up and maybe go into week 17 looking to hit 500 AND killing Dallas, that would be a big game and a sweet win. So yes for this group that would be the Super Bowl.
Add to that Cooper, who is looking to be paid. Those two contracts will eat a lot of their cap space and their ability to make moves.
Jerrah will pay out the nose to resign Cooper, extend Zeke and keep Zak. If you think that makes them a top division foe, then you really seem to ignore history.
The reason the Pats are admired (and also hated) by so many is because they have figured out how to have an extended period of success. If you think the Cowboys are smart enough to be on that trail - yep, not much more to say....
Majority of folks on the board guffawing at Jerrah's giving up a No. 1 for Cooper. Right now, that move looks like it has meant the difference in Dallas' offense and its controlling the Division with games to spare.
Martin went down with his knee again and Dallas OL hardly skipped a beat with his replacement, and as Rick said if/when Frederick comes back, the OL gets stronger still. If Giants were to lose one of our newly hopeful OL, what does our O look like? Dallas has a bunch of good DBs, some up and coming receivers, strong OL and D.....and an inconsistent QB.
Not trying to be a negative Nancy, just saying what I see.
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a Division opponent looks good and all the sour grapes posts come out touting how that team will fail and fall and the Giants will rise.
A more consistent response is that a division foe looks good and now we're going to have to deal with them as beasts for the next decade. Remember how we were going to be looking at RGIII running away from us for years? Carson Wentz would be leading Philly to a decade of dominance? Tony Romo was going to have rings because he's so good?
If you look at the recent history of the division, the one takeaway is that any team in any year can win the division and trying to predict who that is has been fairly useless. The Cowboys have had a dominant OL and a top RB for the last few years. Prior to that, they had the supposed best QB in the division. And that's led to how many playoff victories?
It seems like a lot of people watched the game yesterday. If they think Dak is going to lead that team to being on top for several years, I'd say they aren't too great at analyzing the game.
Majority of folks on the board guffawing at Jerrah's giving up a No. 1 for Cooper. Right now, that move looks like it has meant the difference in Dallas' offense and its controlling the Division with games to spare.
Martin went down with his knee again and Dallas OL hardly skipped a beat with his replacement, and as Rick said if/when Frederick comes back, the OL gets stronger still. If Giants were to lose one of our newly hopeful OL, what does our O look like? Dallas has a bunch of good DBs, some up and coming receivers, strong OL and D.....and an inconsistent QB.
Not trying to be a negative Nancy, just saying what I see.
+1 Dallas always seems to be able to retain their talent when they need to and right now the defense is top notch with a ball control offense. Much as I hate to see it they are not going away any time soon.
Their roster underbelly is going to take a significant hit. They have drafted well but will need to draft really really well to sustain year in and year out success. Health is also an X factor.
How many teams do we see have their season go down the tubes due to significant injuries (not necessarily one key player like QB but across roster).
A more consistent response is that a division foe looks good and now we're going to have to deal with them as beasts for the next decade. Remember...RGIII running away from us for years? Carson Wentz would be leading Philly to a decade of dominance? Tony Romo was going to have rings because he's so good?
If you look at the recent history of the division, the one takeaway is that any team in any year can win the division and trying to predict who that is has been fairly useless. The Cowboys have had a dominant OL and a top RB for the last few years. Prior to that, they had the supposed best QB in the division. And that's led to how many playoff victories?
It seems like a lot of people watched the game yesterday. If they think Dak is going to lead that team to being on top for several years, I'd say they aren't too great at analyzing the game.
All I can assess is what we can see today, and Alex Smith tragedies aside, Dallas looks easily the strongest team in the Division with a lot of young talent on O and D.
Yeah, Dak is a bit of a conundrum. He's strong, he has escapability, strong enough arm, and he obviously has the confidence of his team. Is he inconsistent (as I said)? Absolutely. And he's also a friggin 4th Round pick, where Jerry picked Nassib (and gave up a pick for good measure) and Gettleman picked Lauletta. Neither one of those looked or looks like he has the tools Prescott does.
And while he may be a or the flaw in any thesis that Dallas can remain ascendant for a bit, he's also very cheap, relative to our QB, which means JJ can spend in other areas.
But I digress.
The main point I like to make about the NFL - and it is one of the only true metrics that has shown consistently over time to determine success - is that team health is paramount. We lauded the Giants in 2016, but it has been their only season in the past 12 YEARS when they finished in the top half of the league in team health. Dallas is the only NFC East team in the top of the league in health - the giants are actually hugging the line at 15th. Out of the 12 playoff teams last year, all but 2 were in the top 15 in terms of health, and that isn't uncommon.
While health alone doesn't assure Dallas a division title, odds are they would be fighting for a spot right now if Alex Smith doesn't break his leg, or if the Redskins hadn't lost 3 OL to injuries. They are on pace with the Niners to finish last in the league in health. And we can see how that works out in the W-L column.
I constantly worry about SB, and that's why I don't whine when PS rests him for a series or so, situation dependent, and PS is still learning.
I look at the young TEs for Eagles (Goeddert) and for Dallas (can't recall his name), and they are built thick. Then I look at EE, he does not have a TE's build, nowhere close. I looked at David Wilson (which pick made no sense to me before his spinal condition was diagnosed) and he looked spindly, fragile. Reese had no clue, from many points of departure.
In the trenches, it's tough, someone on your own team pushed an opponent in a legal block and he falls backwards over the knee or ankle of your teammate. It's a roll of the dice.
I remember him with the Bills. After that I think he might have played with the Texans and then retired. He's much "thicker" now. Not Patrick Ewing or Derrick Coleman level, but like guy in his 40's thick:)
I am envious of the Cows lbs.
The entire D runs to the ball as a group. Great hustle.
The Cows O does enough to win
Great RB. Very good WR. Functional Ol. Good Qb who can run.
They could surprise in this year's playoffs.
I am envious of the Cows lbs.
The entire D runs to the ball as a group. Great hustle.
The Cows O does enough to win
Great RB. Very good WR. Functional Ol. Good Qb who can run.
They could surprise in this year's playoffs.
I hate to say it, but there are similarities with them and the 2007 Giants.
character concerns and I am not sold on Dak either but he
does some things very well ball security and maybe a
little overconfident .They have some big paydays coming up
as well but right now they are pretty formidable .