Wow he’s been amazing since the trade.. It makes me laugh because so many people were killing Dallas when they made the trade..... Some people have this wierd obsession with draft picks... sometimes you can get a Beckham or a Barkley or you could end up with a Apple or Flowers
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Hate to say it
JerseyCityJoe : 1:16 pm : link : reply
But Jerry Jones is looking like a genius with some of his gambles the last few years. We used to laugh at how he would pull the trigger on risky bets. We ain't laughing now.
Has he won something with his gambles? He's giving up a 1st next year and will have to resign Cooper and they still are likely a one and done team this year.
Smith was a gamble that is paying dividends 2 years later.
We made the playoffs in 2016 by basically having a healthy team and a dominant D and many people correctly said it was done with smoke and mirrors. Dallas has needed devastating injuries to the division leader to sit atop the division, but it is now because they are a well constructed, well-run team?
Not to mention they were about to fire their coach and hire Lincoln Riley 3 weeks ago!
People have called the Cowboys a merging powerhouse in the past and then having it fizzle out. Lets wait until they win a championship before we anoint this group as one. To this point they are simply winning a week division and haven't done anything else.
JerseyCityJoe : 3:09 pm : link : reply
Keep your head in the sand and use those weak arguments on someone else. He's putting together a powerhouse and anyone with a brain should see it.
Sure. Was everyone's head in the sand 4 weeks ago when they were fighting to be slightly better than the Giants and then had Washington fortuitously lose several OL players and 2 QB's to magically vault over them??
They've had one of the best OL's in the game and arguably the best RB and they've won how many rings??
By logic I've seen used on this site in the past several months, the powerhouse is going to be hard to sustain since Zeke's prime started ticking Day 1, and keeping together the OL will be hard without breaking the bank, and giving up a #1 draft pick takes away valuable equity.
Dallas is an average team in a terrible division. That's what my eyes tell me and have told me for the past two decades.
Powerhouse my ass.
You do realize that any positives achieved by the Cowboys are more the doing of Stephen Jones and much less that of JJ, whether he (JJ) ultimately signs off on them or not?
Dallas is an average team in a terrible division. That's what my eyes tell me and have told me for the past two decades.
Powerhouse my ass.
Powerhouse - no. Everything is too close to the vest. But they have a playoff caliber defense and recently stymied the Saints. Which is no joke. So that is certainly noteworthy.
Look, the division is wacked. There hasn't been a repeat winner in like 15 years. But it has produced SB winners with some serious warts... ;)
I do, but whats the difference? As you said JJ ultimately has the final say. He's been more hit than miss is really my point.
His OL is one of the best. His DL is one of the best. His LB core is one of the best. He has one of the best RB in the game. He just picked up a receiver that can stretch the field and turn games around which they have been missing.
Now no one hate Dallas like I do and I am not saying they are SB bound just yet. But I think we Giant fans can give credit where credit is due.
So again, what have they won??
Dallas and JJ has made some shrewd bets on talent that for reasons of personal issues or injury history have been paying off right now.
What have they won you ask? They same thing that a team like KC or LA has won. Nothing. But that does not mean its going to stay that way.
What about the gambles of signing Greg Hardy? Of going into the season with the WR corps that they did? Retaining Garrett as HC?
Can you imagine the reaction if we were contender and went into a season with a WR corps like Dallas did? Hell, Gettleman gets crucified for signing Stewart. If he went into a season with Allen Hurns as a #1 WR, would we be calling it a shrewd move and a gamble?
The Cowboys have been playing well for a stretch of games, so everything that has been done is "paying off"?? It really doesn't mean squat if they haven't won.
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You do realize that any positives achieved by the Cowboys are more the doing of Stephen Jones and much less that of JJ, whether he (JJ) ultimately signs off on them or not?
I do, but whats the difference? As you said JJ ultimately has the final say. He's been more hit than miss is really my point.
His OL is one of the best. His DL is one of the best. His LB core is one of the best. He has one of the best RB in the game. He just picked up a receiver that can stretch the field and turn games around which they have been missing.
Now no one hate Dallas like I do and I am not saying they are SB bound just yet. But I think we Giant fans can give credit where credit is due.
Joe understood, but those position upgrades you cite were mostly his son’s doing. Remember, JJ wanted Manziel, his son took Zach Martin.