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Carl Banks called it....

Allen in CNJ : 12/10/2018 9:28 am
...back in September, around Labor Day. I distinctly remember him being on with Joe and Evan or someone else on WFAN and when questioned about this team's future, and their chances of contending THIS season in particular, he said something like this:

--This is a "get better" team, a team that's building to win and make a run for NEXT season...--

I'd definitely say that this is the case, as the product we've seen on the field is accurate with what Carl said. I love his analysis, and he always has excellent insight.

Just food for thought...

They have showed that all year  
DavidinBMNY : 12/10/2018 9:33 am : link
They have been in most of the games and really could have another win or two but they were nowhere near the top teams - yet.

Let's see if they can continue this type of play against better caliber QB lay coming up in the next 3 weeks. These teams will be looking at playoff implications, so they are going to be tough games.

If they can go 2-1 and finish down the stretch at 7-9 that's a pretty great turn-around from last year.
It’s a quick turnaround league.  
Big Blue '56 : 12/10/2018 9:36 am : link
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Winning some games masks a lot of issues  
DC Gmen Fan : 12/10/2018 9:42 am : link
but things like the end of the Philly game and the end of the Bears game (minus OT) give my optimism pause.
i'll also say  
Dnew15 : 12/10/2018 9:50 am : link
that the NFL did them dirty with the schedule. That opening string of games was no joke.
Lets put in some perspective  
Carson53 : 12/10/2018 9:51 am : link
other than the Houston win early in the season,
have they beat a team with their starting QB playing?
They have won a couple games against a 3rd string QB,
Sanchez was on the street a couple weeks ago.
Give the Giants credit for not quitting this season.
RE: Winning some games masks a lot of issues  
Carson53 : 12/10/2018 9:54 am : link
In comment 14212544 DC Gmen Fan said:
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but things like the end of the Philly game and the end of the Bears game (minus OT) give my optimism pause.
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I think the next couple of games will be a better test,
teams fighting for the playoffs, with their starting QB.
One is Andrew Luck, my comeback player of the year!
RE: Winning some games masks a lot of issues  
gmenatlarge : 12/10/2018 9:56 am : link
In comment 14212544 DC Gmen Fan said:
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but things like the end of the Philly game and the end of the Bears game (minus OT) give my optimism pause.


+1 I expressed that same sentiment on another thread and got the usual attacks. Anyway let's see this team play a complete game and win against any of these remaining opponents.
Agee on all fronts  
DavidinBMNY : 12/10/2018 10:19 am : link
It's a small step in the right direction.

Winning is a good thing.
funny, OBJ was not missed Sunday and everyone else  
gtt350 : 12/10/2018 10:26 am : link
gor to wet their beaks
RE: It’s a quick turnaround league.  
EricJ : 12/10/2018 10:30 am : link
In comment 14212530 Big Blue '56 said:
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True... we just had a few too many holes to make that quick of a turn around. Even if we finished with 9 wins this year (by winning one of our earlier games), we all know this team is not at the same level as the teams that will end up in the two championship games. Different level completely.

This year is a stepping stone. I also think the locker room is much better right now than it has been in a few years. That matters..
I  
mitch300 : 12/10/2018 10:50 am : link
heard an interview with Banks and Joe and Evan earlier in the season and he identified the Giants as a "get Better team". However, he was saying the opponents looked at getting better playing the Giants.
RE: I  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 12/10/2018 10:58 am : link
In comment 14212734 mitch300 said:
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heard an interview with Banks and Joe and Evan earlier in the season and he identified the Giants as a "get Better team". However, he was saying the opponents looked at getting better playing the Giants.

Sanchez is a get better QB.
RE: Lets put in some perspective  
jeffusedtobeonwebtv : 12/10/2018 11:32 am : link
In comment 14212572 Carson53 said:
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other than the Houston win early in the season,
have they beat a team with their starting QB playing?
They have won a couple games against a 3rd string QB,
Sanchez was on the street a couple weeks ago.
Give the Giants credit for not quitting this season.


Of course, when you play bad teams wins are guaranteed. I guess that's why the packers fired their coach last week for losing to the cardinals. I guess that's why I have read that the broncos coach's job is in jeopardy after losing this week to the 49ers. And of course the steelers could not possibly lose to the raiders, right.
not  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 12/10/2018 11:35 am : link
to sound like debbie downer here, but folks need to remember who the opposing quarterbacks have been during our recent wins.
in the past  
Boatie Warrant : 12/10/2018 11:45 am : link
we would have lost these games against back up QBs. So to me we are on an upswing. we also beat a top defensive team in the Bears. Something we have also struggled with in the past.

Are we a top team? No, but we are a team that is finding its identity.
Certainly a reversal from some of the Coughlin teams  
lawguy9801 : 12/10/2018 12:01 pm : link
who started hot, and then shit the bed and faded down the stretch.
RE: not  
RobCarpenter : 12/10/2018 12:04 pm : link
In comment 14212831 Eric from BBI said:
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to sound like debbie downer here, but folks need to remember who the opposing quarterbacks have been during our recent wins.


The story of the recent wins is how well the O has done.
Eric  
mdthedream : 12/10/2018 12:25 pm : link
agree but that said the Offense has improved a lot. The rest at this point I don't care.
I didn't realize opposing QB's play  
JCin332 : 12/10/2018 12:48 pm : link
Defense against our Offense...
RE: not  
Photoguy : 12/10/2018 12:51 pm : link
In comment 14212831 Eric from BBI said:
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to sound like debbie downer here, but folks need to remember who the opposing quarterbacks have been during our recent wins.


Somewhat disagree. We put up points on the defense yesterday, not counting the pick-six. Maybe Alex Smith would have generated 35 points, maybe not. We beat the DEFENSE, not the Redskins offense.
The recent improvement  
joeinpa : 12/10/2018 1:36 pm : link
Has really changed the narrative here

We have gone from:
- Shurmur stinks to, he’s not so bad
- Eli s Cooked to, be should he extended

Are the wins fool s good, I have no idea. But they have lost draft position and any chance to get Herbert if he comes out.

And for guys like me who believe they can t really move forward until the next era at quarterback begins, it makes the reaction to these wins mixed, although I have been rooting for them to win.
I agree with Banks  
mittenedman : 12/10/2018 2:58 pm : link
but am frustrated at the same time. You have to take advantage of big seasons when you can, the team is insanely healthy and Barkley is unstoppable right now.

The Giants should've won that opening day home game vs. the Jags (Eli hits OBJ on a wide open slant they win), the 63-yard FG game and obviously the Eagles game. The others they were outplayed in but I didn't think they had any business losing any of those 3 games.

If that's the case, we're 8-5 (what we should be IMO) and one of the hottest teams in the league hitting the stretch. With Barkley we are the team nobody wants to see IMO. What might have been.....? I don't think we have a good enough D to win the Super Bowl but who knows - I didn't think we'd win either of the previous 2 either. The Giants are hot and healthy at the right time but blew too many early games.
RE: not  
UConn4523 : 12/10/2018 3:08 pm : link
In comment 14212831 Eric from BBI said:
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to sound like debbie downer here, but folks need to remember who the opposing quarterbacks have been during our recent wins.


Yes, but some of the teams we are competing with for a playoff spot have also and still will play the same QB deficient teams. It works both ways, the Giants aren't the only team playing an opponent on their worst days.

The Cowboys and Eagles just got to play the same team with Colt McCoy and then Sanchez. Do their wins not count?
in fact  
UConn4523 : 12/10/2018 3:09 pm : link
the Eagles get to play Sanchez/Johnson 2x this season. I'm sure Eagles fans don't mind that at all.
Jamon Brown, Jamon Brown, Jamon Brown  
looie : 12/10/2018 5:36 pm : link
There is no question the OL has played remarkably better since he arrived and it's turned around the fortunes of this team. Manning has MUCH more time in the pocket now than he had the 1st half of the season.
AND...  
looie : 12/10/2018 5:37 pm : link
...they now have an actual running game.
There are a lot of parallels to last year to me.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/10/2018 5:57 pm : link
They beat a top defense on the road last year, and finished the season once McAdoo gave up playcalling averaging exactly the yards per rush with Orleans Darkwa that Barkley is doing right now.

Obviously the run game is better with an elite player there, but I'm not reading into upswing. People just want feel good, and the higher point totals help that.

The upswing would have been winning winning in Philly, not taking apart a team that knew its season was finished with their QB maybe losing his leg.
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