In my 12-team PPR IDP league (with money at stake), I clinched the #1 seed last week and after Sunday's action, the four teams that will meet in the playoffs have been decided, but the seeding is still to be determined based on the Monday night game.
I'm in position to ensure that I play the team I would prefer to play in the first round, all I have to do is bench Tyler Lockett and Danielle Hunter. If I play them and they score over 28.7 points combined (giving me the win), my next week's opponent has Cam Newton at QB (home vs Saints), Barkley and DJ as his RBS, Antonio Brown and Mike Evans as his WRs, Kittle at TE, and assorted choices at Flex (including Derrick Henry). On the other hand, if I score less than 28.7 points, my next week's opponent has Luck at QB, James White, Fournette, and Drake as his RB options, Smith-Shuster, Boyd, Sterling Shepard, Sutton, and Humphries as his best bets at WR (unless Watkins gets healthy), and his only TE is Trey Burton.
So that's quite a difference in talent between the two teams I could be facing in the first round of the playoffs (for the sake of simplicity, let's assume the individual defensive players are roughly equivalent). Would you bench Lockett and Hunter in order to ensure a loss that would have you facing the Andrew Luck-led team? Or would you consider that poor sportsmanship? There's money at stake...and it's not as if the maneuvering would change who made the playoffs, it would only impact the seeding of the four teams.
p.s.--for comparison, my QBs are Brees and Roethlisberger, my RBs Gurley, Lindsay, and Cohen, my WRs OBJ, Lockett, and DJ Moore, my TEs Ebron and Njoku.
I think someone not in the playoffs intentionally losing a game to give another opponent the ability to advance is not acceptable.
Seems like a fine line but there is one there.
There's nothing wrong with benching them, if that's what you want to do.
I'm in the same boat. This will be the semi finals. Bye this week.
Unless somebody drops a good D I will be rolling with Jax against Wash. Washington looked horrendous last night.
I think it should be allowed if there's no rule stating otherwise. If you want to change it, vote on a rule for next season.
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In a league that does not award any money unless you win it all, what do you think of teams who are not in the winner's bracket making Free Agency moves? Debating if I should complain to the league commissioner although it is not the league commissioner who is making the moves.
I think it should be allowed if there's no rule stating otherwise. If you want to change it, vote on a rule for next season.
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In a league that does not award any money unless you win it all, what do you think of teams who are not in the winner's bracket making Free Agency moves? Debating if I should complain to the league commissioner although it is not the league commissioner who is making the moves.
I think it should be allowed if there's no rule stating otherwise. If you want to change it, vote on a rule for next season.
Agreed. One league I'm in prevents these moves, but if not it's fair game.
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I don't think there's a big difference between those teams and you are asking for it from the FF Karma gods.
Is it just me that sees it as a significant difference between talent levels? Because I get the "be careful what you wish for" side of it. Another side of it is that the team that I would be avoiding (and purposely losing to this week) is also the one team that I invited into the league. He's one of my closest friends and I hardly know the other ten guys at all. So if somebody wanted to see it for something it wasn't, that would be their excuse. And who needs that? We're talking about hundreds of bucks, not thousands. Of course...but maybe - ( New Window )
Some of it is you going by "names" though. Barkley/Brown are great obviously but in my 0.5 PPR league White has outscored DJ by 25 pts; Smith-Schuster and Evans are a push; Luck vs Newton's a push; etc. Fournette's also been a top 10 RB in avg pts so if he's playing Sunday there isn't a huge difference between he and Barkley, especially with Fournette facing the Skins.
And having Henry is probably a negative for that guy (positive for you) since he's going to be tempted to play him this week and its more likely he puts up 5 pts than a repeat of last week.
Besides, I haven't played IDP in years, but it seems like a long shot for those 2 guys to top 28 pts anyway. Certainly not a lock as you portray it. Hunter averages what 5.5 tackles and 1 sack/game, so 7.5-8 FFPts? Even in full PPR, Locketts only averaging ~15 pts/game so you'd need at least one (likely both) to have an above average game.
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In comment 14212731 Mike in NY said:
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In a league that does not award any money unless you win it all, what do you think of teams who are not in the winner's bracket making Free Agency moves? Debating if I should complain to the league commissioner although it is not the league commissioner who is making the moves.
I think it should be allowed if there's no rule stating otherwise. If you want to change it, vote on a rule for next season.
I don't like when teams that are out of the playoff hunt make late season trades with teams in the playoff mix. A few weeks ago a 3-7 team traded JJ Smith Shuster to a 7-3 team in exchange for LeSean McCoy and Devin Funchess.
Keeper league?
Sometimes you try and get cute though and you look like a fool when you maybe would have beat the other team but b/c of this decision you lose to the team you schemed to play.
The commish pulls random draft order the day before the draft and I get pick 13.
The day of the live draft I show up and the big board and the website (CBS) has me set up at team 12, and team 12 at 13. No big deal I guess so I tell him to fix it, which he says to just leave it as it is for the draft, have us pick in our previously assigned spots (12 pick 12, me pick 13) and he will manually adjust the rosters the next day, which he did without problem.
What I realized last week is that he never changed the schedule that was based on draft order. So I played the 12 schedule. Of course I miss the playoffs by 1 game and would have been in if the commish didn't mess up the input. I actually manually re-ran the entire league schedule to make sure that nothing else would have changed, and it wouldn't have. The extra win for me would have been an insignificant loss for another playoff team that didn't even affect his seeding.
Now obviously there is nothing I can do, you can't re-run the whole league at this point so I need to just accept it but the commish is telling me that I am a crazy person for even bringing it up and that I have no legit gripe about it. Of course my team got healthy and red hot in the weeks leading up to the playoffs and I would have been in the semis next week.
Am I wrong here to even mention it?
The commish pulls random draft order the day before the draft and I get pick 13.
The day of the live draft I show up and the big board and the website (CBS) has me set up at team 12, and team 12 at 13. No big deal I guess so I tell him to fix it, which he says to just leave it as it is for the draft, have us pick in our previously assigned spots (12 pick 12, me pick 13) and he will manually adjust the rosters the next day, which he did without problem.
What I realized last week is that he never changed the schedule that was based on draft order. So I played the 12 schedule. Of course I miss the playoffs by 1 game and would have been in if the commish didn't mess up the input. I actually manually re-ran the entire league schedule to make sure that nothing else would have changed, and it wouldn't have. The extra win for me would have been an insignificant loss for another playoff team that didn't even affect his seeding.
Now obviously there is nothing I can do, you can't re-run the whole league at this point so I need to just accept it but the commish is telling me that I am a crazy person for even bringing it up and that I have no legit gripe about it. Of course my team got healthy and red hot in the weeks leading up to the playoffs and I would have been in the semis next week.
Am I wrong here to even mention it?
just like everything else, yes you are wrong here.
You are really complaining about your schedule? Get out of here with that garbage.
I'm guessing no. I think as others have said you might have been justified to bring it up before the season, bringing it up after the fact and you feel it hurt you, you'd be laughed off the internet.
I'm guessing no. I think as others have said you might have been justified to bring it up before the season, bringing it up after the fact and you feel it hurt you, you'd be laughed off the internet.
Yes I agree. In the end I take blame for not realizing it right at the draft. It is just annoying. Just another part of the luck of fantasy sports- that the commissioner making a dumb mistake to f over one person and it was me.
Remember as I said I didn't bring it up for the commish to do anything about it. There is nothing to do as I said. The league has run. I just really wanted to point out what a dumbass the guy is.
And you should have been kicked out.
Last place team in my league just dropped Tom Brady because he thought it was funny. Thankfully the team that picked him up isn't going to the playoffs but it could have royally fucked the league up.
Keeper league?
So it really could go either way. I'm most likely going to leave them as starters, partly for karmic reasons, but mostly because I don't want to ruffle any feathers.