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Plax vs. Odell - who is/was better?

Grey Pilgrim : 12/10/2018 10:24 am
Who would you rather have on the GIANTS and why?

TIA
Odell - big play guy who, contrary to popular opinion, has his head  
Ira : 12/10/2018 10:27 am : link
on straight.
Odell is a once in a generation  
bradshaw44 : 12/10/2018 10:27 am : link
talent.
Agreed!  
Grey Pilgrim : 12/10/2018 10:27 am : link
My vote is for Plax.
Odell  
ron mexico : 12/10/2018 10:29 am : link
both for the tangible and intangible

Odell is a better player, team mate and person

Whoops!  
Grey Pilgrim : 12/10/2018 10:29 am : link
Plax please!
Odell  
pjcas18 : 12/10/2018 10:29 am : link
for both.

he's better and I'd rather have him.
I love Odell and in general he will be the better player  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 12/10/2018 10:42 am : link
I take Plax for 2 reasons.

1) He was an Eagles Killer
2) You can't teach his height

Eli loved to lob balls to Plax, that only Plax could catch, and OBJ doesn't have the height for that.

Again I love OBJ, and think he will be a first ballet hall of famer when its all said and done. Give me Plax, simply because I can't stand the Eagles or their fans.
Odell by miles  
regulator : 12/10/2018 10:42 am : link
Plax is mythologized for a few reasons: his arrival coincided with Eli coming into his own as a championship quarterback; the game-winning fade in SB42; the "what could have been" in 2008 had he not shot himself, etc.

Beckham is one of the most gifted athletes on the face of the Earth (amazingly, we have two of them) and the best WR the Giants have ever had, bar none.

The numbers aren't even close and that only tells part of the story.
It's crazy for anyone to say Plax  
Sonic Youth : 12/10/2018 10:43 am : link
It feels as though anyone who says Plax has an axe to grind with OBJ.

Plax is far and away the better WR, without any question. The talent level around Plax and the quality of QB play was much better when Plax was here.
RE: I love Odell and in general he will be the better player  
bradshaw44 : 12/10/2018 10:45 am : link
In comment 14212710 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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I take Plax for 2 reasons.

1) He was an Eagles Killer
2) You can't teach his height

Eli loved to lob balls to Plax, that only Plax could catch, and OBJ doesn't have the height for that.

Again I love OBJ, and think he will be a first ballet hall of famer when its all said and done. Give me Plax, simply because I can't stand the Eagles or their fans.


Wow, Odell will be the first Ballet dancer in the HOF. Learn something new everyday;-)
RE: It's crazy for anyone to say Plax  
bradshaw44 : 12/10/2018 10:46 am : link
In comment 14212714 Sonic Youth said:
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It feels as though anyone who says Plax has an axe to grind with OBJ.

Plax is far and away the better WR, without any question. The talent level around Plax and the quality of QB play was much better when Plax was here.



Why is it crazy to pick Plax when you your self are picking him??? :-O
It's crazy  
Carson53 : 12/10/2018 10:55 am : link
that some are still talking about Per-Plaxico.
Can't some give that a rest already.
RE: RE: It's crazy for anyone to say Plax  
Sonic Youth : 12/10/2018 10:59 am : link
In comment 14212723 bradshaw44 said:
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In comment 14212714 Sonic Youth said:


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It feels as though anyone who says Plax has an axe to grind with OBJ.

Plax is far and away the better WR, without any question. The talent level around Plax and the quality of QB play was much better when Plax was here.




Why is it crazy to pick Plax when you your self are picking him??? :-O
Typo, my mistake. Definitely meant to say OBJ.
Odell Beckham is the greatest receiver I've ever seen...  
x meadowlander : 12/10/2018 11:05 am : link
...skill-wise.

He's in a different league than Plax. Apples and oranges too, BTW, completely different type of receiver.

Comparisons to Cruz would be apples to apples, and again, not in the same league.

Nobody is.

And Beckham may be a fuckup, but he's not a 'shoot himself in the leg and go to jail and destroy a season' fuckup.

Beckham drives me nuts but I'd rather him in Giant blue than any other uniform.
Odell is a great talent  
BBelle21 : 12/10/2018 11:07 am : link
But Plax. His wingspan was amazing and he was just an incredible talent as well. He could always go up and grab those 50/50 balls. He drove the Eagles crazy too. The back shoulder throw between Eli and Plax was impossible to defend. Eli also had that chemistry with Hakeem.
Odell  
rocco8112 : 12/10/2018 11:11 am : link
is the correct response.

Two things of note, Plax size means he is open even when covered and I think it helps with a short field like the red zone. Also, most of Plax career was when pass defense was still legal. The NFL today is a WR's dream.
Plax had a ton of talent.....  
MOOPS : 12/10/2018 11:19 am : link
but he was a meathead.
The Steelers let him walk away after his rookie contract.
He put a cap in his own ass when he was with the Giants.


Odell  
GoBlue6599 : 12/10/2018 11:43 am : link
Plax was a nice player but OBJ is on another level
Odell v Plaxico  
PhilSimms15 : 12/10/2018 11:45 am : link
It is not a perfect comparison but this should be enough info to show why Odell is hands down a better receiver than Plaxico ever was.

For his career, Plaxico averaged 50 catches per season; (Not including his last season, with the Jets where he was not a factor); 849 yards per season, 6.4 TD's per season.

Odell is averaging 97 catches per year (last year when he only played 4 games); 1369 yards and 11 TD's.

Odell is a Hall-of-famer and Plaxico was a nice receiver.
RE: Odell Beckham is the greatest receiver I've ever seen...  
regulator : 12/10/2018 11:47 am : link
In comment 14212768 x meadowlander said:
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...skill-wise.

He's in a different league than Plax. Apples and oranges too, BTW, completely different type of receiver.

Comparisons to Cruz would be apples to apples, and again, not in the same league.

Nobody is.

And Beckham may be a fuckup, but he's not a 'shoot himself in the leg and go to jail and destroy a season' fuckup.

Beckham drives me nuts but I'd rather him in Giant blue than any other uniform.


I know you're complimentary of him, but seriously, in what universe is Beckham a fuckup?

Plax..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 12/10/2018 11:52 am : link
wasn't even the best WR on his team for most of his career.

He was run of of Pittsburgh because of his immaturity and while he certainly was awesome to have as a Giant, his career was ended by his immaturity and it wasn't just the gunshot. He basically was allowed to miss meetings and practice for a season without punishment.

Guy was never a good teammate and single-handedly derailed a season.
Paraphrasing Bill Parcells  
PhilSimms15 : 12/10/2018 11:53 am : link
when talking about Phil Simms.

When he's gone, you will all be saying, "he's a good receiver, but he ain't no Odell."

I do not understand why Odell gets so much hate on this board. He has never been arrested. His teammates love him. The league respects him. He is wildly productive. I've been watching the Giants since 1973 and he is by far the best receiver they have ever had and amongst the top five I've ever seen.
No comparison  
Marty866b : 12/10/2018 11:54 am : link
As good Plax was,OBJ is on another level.
Odell  
mrvax : 12/10/2018 11:57 am : link
is much. Not debatable. Only OBJ haters would pick Plax who was a moron.
OB  
JonC : 12/10/2018 11:59 am : link
Many do not recall Plax accurately on the whole.
RE: Odell  
BBelle21 : 12/10/2018 11:59 am : link
In comment 14212882 mrvax said:
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is much. Not debatable. Only OBJ haters would pick Plax who was a moron.


Give me a break. I don’t hate Odell. He’s a better team mate and talent. Some just prefer what the big number 1 wide receiver like Plax can bring to the table.
Preferring..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 12/10/2018 12:07 pm : link
a big WR and saying he is better than Odell are two different things.

It truly is moronic to say Plax was the better player.

I like functional vehicles, but my Mazda isn't a better performing car than a Maserati. And if I said so, it would be moronic.
I can't believe this is even a question  
jcn56 : 12/10/2018 12:13 pm : link
and honestly, you should be embarrassed for even asking it.

What a shame we couldn't see OBJ on one of those teams, they'd be unstoppable.
RE: I can't believe this is even a question  
GoBlue6599 : 12/10/2018 12:27 pm : link
In comment 14212928 jcn56 said:
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and honestly, you should be embarrassed for even asking it.

What a shame we couldn't see OBJ on one of those teams, they'd be unstoppable.

Wow imagine Odell on the 2008 Giants
RE: Preferring..  
BBelle21 : 12/10/2018 12:33 pm : link
In comment 14212910 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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a big WR and saying he is better than Odell are two different things.

It truly is moronic to say Plax was the better player.

I like functional vehicles, but my Mazda isn't a better performing car than a Maserati. And if I said so, it would be moronic.


This is fair. We all have different preferences in everything. No one ever argues what an extraordinary talent Odell is. Nor can they argue it.
Plax continues to be  
JOrthman : 12/10/2018 1:10 pm : link
one of the most overrate Giants WR's.
Odell is also a better dresser  
ron mexico : 12/10/2018 1:18 pm : link
no way he would wear sweat pants to the club, whether he was strapping or not.

If he was strapping, he probably would have a gucci holster

And lets not even get into dancing skills.
Two completely different players  
B in ALB : 12/10/2018 1:20 pm : link
Playing for completely different teams.

And there is still no comparison. OBJ by a mile.
Odell is more naturally gifted.....  
Reb8thVA : 12/10/2018 1:32 pm : link
However, I've seen Plax step up his A game in a pressure situation. We haven't seen Odell do that. In fact in his one opportunity he came up small.
This has to be one of the dumbest threads of all time.  
yatqb : 12/10/2018 1:35 pm : link
There is no comparison. OBJ is a superstar.
This cant be real  
Brandon Walsh : 12/10/2018 2:24 pm : link
Odell and its not even remotely close.
RE: Odell is more naturally gifted.....  
ShockNRoll : 12/10/2018 2:32 pm : link
In comment 14213112 Reb8thVA said:
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However, I've seen Plax step up his A game in a pressure situation. We haven't seen Odell do that. In fact in his one opportunity he came up small.


I love people who want to kill Odell for that one playoff game (not saying you are, but you did mention it)...You can't judge a player based on one game. Did we judge Eli after his first playoff game against Carolina when the Giants got shut out and he threw 3 interceptions? Jerry Rice's first 3 career playoff games he had less than 5 catches and 50 yards in each. Odell had one bad game that day. Until I see it as a pattern, I'm not going crazy over one game.
Other than handling onside kicks  
Jimmy Googs : 12/10/2018 2:34 pm : link
I would go with OBJ...

:-)

Odell.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/10/2018 3:13 pm : link
Next ?

I love Plax, but he's not in Odell's class.
RE: Odell is more naturally gifted.....  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/10/2018 3:33 pm : link
In comment 14213112 Reb8thVA said:
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However, I've seen Plax step up his A game in a pressure situation. We haven't seen Odell do that. In fact in his one opportunity he came up small.


In that same year Plaxico stepped up, he was also held to 1 catch for 5 yards in the playoffs against Dallas and 4 catches for 38 yards against tampa.


It does happen.


If you simply compare the first five years of each guy’s career...  
Big Blue Blogger : 12/10/2018 3:39 pm : link
... it’s Beckham by a laughably wide margin, despite a very serious injury in year 4. Over the course of their full careers, it’s likely to be Beckham again, but that’s subject to obvious caveats. At their best? Also Beckham, aside from a few memorable games in which Burress was unstoppable.
.  
arcarsenal : 12/10/2018 4:10 pm : link
Beckham and it's not that close.
RE: Plax continues to be  
bw in dc : 12/10/2018 4:21 pm : link
In comment 14213068 JOrthman said:
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one of the most overrate Giants WR's.


Sums it up for me.

Plax was a talent, but just look at his yearly numbers. When was he great? 2007 when he was 30? Incredibly overrated.

As for the question - unquestionably OBJ.
The better question would have been...  
bradshaw44 : 12/10/2018 4:25 pm : link
Plax vs. Cruz
Plax vs. Nicks

All 3 of them were above average players with big play ability and contributed to Super Bowls. But none of them are on Odell's level.
RE: RE: Odell Beckham is the greatest receiver I've ever seen...  
x meadowlander : 12/10/2018 4:30 pm : link
In comment 14212864 regulator said:
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In comment 14212768 x meadowlander said:


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...skill-wise.

He's in a different league than Plax. Apples and oranges too, BTW, completely different type of receiver.

Comparisons to Cruz would be apples to apples, and again, not in the same league.

Nobody is.

And Beckham may be a fuckup, but he's not a 'shoot himself in the leg and go to jail and destroy a season' fuckup.

Beckham drives me nuts but I'd rather him in Giant blue than any other uniform.



I know you're complimentary of him, but seriously, in what universe is Beckham a fuckup?
The Josh Norman universe.

Well fuck Josh Norman  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/10/2018 5:36 pm : link
Firstly, a tremendously overrated corner who got 5 minutes of fame by goading an all pro level player into his worst moment as a pro. And it's the only headline he's made in the nfl since. But you can take any player and define them by their worst moment.
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