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Told that Van Wagenen has multiple scenarios working to try to land Realmuto from #Marlins and the 1 involving #Yankees is not among the strongest.
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#Mets discussing multiple two- and three-team scenarios involving Realmuto and others, sources say. Team continues to place premium on their SP; would move Syndergaard only for big return. Tyson Ross signed today for $5.75M. Syndergaard will not cost much more in 2019.
probably a lot of scenarios and the Yankees wont make the best offer. I like what BVW is doing, get as many teams interested as possible and see what happens.
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The Mets have indeed discussed Realmuto scenarios including, but not limited to, a three-team deal that would send Noah Syndergaard to the Yankees. Yet I'd urge you to recall Brodie Van Wagenen's words from earlier today:
"We're not going to create a hole by filling another."
I don't get what's so complicated about this. Realmuto is going to cost more than Grandal if you extend him.
Keeps salary manageable for two years and when you have to extend him Cespedes and Wright are off the books. Either way... No thanks.
If you don't extend him now they're paying even bigger in 2 years or losing him for nothing. But either way the salary is secondary, now way should they give up a more valuable player with more control for Realmuto. Trading Syndergaard for Realmuto would be insanity.
is if we somehow had a simultaneous trade in place for Kluber. And the Yankees arent getting Thor for Florial and some spare parts. lol. If you can get Torres maybe Rosario get packaged to Cleveland or something.
Either way gross. And I already see how this thread is going to go. Thor can be had for nothing. Yankees players are untouchable.. Yada yada.
probably as much or more than any other player on our team. He just rightfully wants to be paid fair market value and he's only going to get that if he waits to free agency. I don't blame him one bit. Mets should offer him a fat nice deal next year.
Is about the end for me. Sorry, but that's the breaking point. They won't get an adequate return for him and watching him pitch for the Yankees for the next half decade or more is of zero interest to me.
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Mets & Yankees have talked about versions of a three-way deal involving Marlins that would send Realmuto to the Mets & Syndergaard to the Yankees, sources confirm.
A deal is not close, and frankly seems pretty unlikely.
But Brodie Van Wagenen is clearly willing to be creative.
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Source: Prospects being floated in a possible three-team trade involving #Mets, #Marlins by #Yankees are Clint Frazier, Jonathan Loaisiga, Mike King, Chance Adams, and Sonny Gray. It is still pretty early in process from vibe that Im getting. Theres smoke, tho.
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Also have heard that the #Mets have asked #Yankees about Miguel Andujar, who NYYs been unwilling to discuss in trade talks. We will see if this 3-team trade rumor becomes a thing in end.
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Mets and league sources have said Miami wants a haul that includes major-league talent and top prospects. And there's though they don't want to deal inside the division. It's not going to be cheap.
put on two years of control of a catcher coming off a career year. And the Yankees make guys like Andujar ,who cant field for shit, "untouchable". Meanwhile here we are with three years of an ace who has the lowest FIP in ALL OF BASEBALL since he entered the league who we are chalking up for peanuts. Im going to bed. lol. Hopefully this nightmare will be over when I awake.
Can suck my balls for what they are asking for Realmuto. Yes, I've been drinking tonight. But FUCK the Marlins. Fuck them hard.
I will tell you this, if the Mets trade Noah Syndergaard, a Norse God, to the muthafuckin' Yankees, then Mets fans will watch as Thor wins MULTIPLE World Series titles in the Bronx. Noah is special. You do not trade this franchise pitcher for J.T. Realmuto. The fact of the matter is that an ace like Thor is way, WAAAAAAAAAAAAY better than the difference between Realmuto and a Wilson Ramos signing.
And I'll end by saying, FUCK THE WILPONS FOR BEING SUCH CHEAP FUCKING OWNERS THAT WON'T JUST GO ALL IN ON A WINNER IN QUEENS. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKCKKKKKKK YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU. I feel better now.
Syndergaard to the pitching staff.My concerns in adding him is that he's never thrown 200 innings in his career (last year 154 innings) & the Yankees just added Paxton,who also has never thrown 200 innings (career high 160 innings last year) so although there is no question about either's stuff, there would be questions about their durability.
Yankees would obviously have to give up an awful lot to make this deal. Andujar & Florial just to start. Would I make such a deal? Yes but I'd much rather try to trade for Kluber but it seems the Dodgers w/an offer of Verdugo,have the inside track.
Syndergaard is cost-controlled until 2022 & this new Yankee management mindset seems to be wanting to stay under the cap(Prove me wrong Cash & sign Machado!) & using your young players to secure needs in trades seems to be Cashman's priority. From a Mets fan's perspective,I would think they need 2 pieces,Andujar & Realmuto to make this trade,while the Marlins get Florial & other Yankee prospects.
However,once all parties wake up from their naps,they may look at this as too volatile.Fun to think about as a fan & if it did happen,would make baseball in New York even more interesting!
+1000 DON'T TRADE SYNDERGAARD!!! The mets are not in a position to trade, they need to add players via FA, just cet a CF and a C and they will be fine, don't get stupid!
because someone will be getting screwed. I dont mind giving up what it takes to get NS but his injury history is real and its a problem. Id rather make a move for someone else slightly less talented but more reliable.
RE: As a Yankee fan,I'll preface this by saying,sure I'd love to add
Syndergaard to the pitching staff.My concerns in adding him is that he's never thrown 200 innings in his career (last year 154 innings) & the Yankees just added Paxton,who also has never thrown 200 innings (career high 160 innings last year) so although there is no question about either's stuff, there would be questions about their durability.
Yankees would obviously have to give up an awful lot to make this deal. Andujar & Florial just to start. Would I make such a deal? Yes but I'd much rather try to trade for Kluber but it seems the Dodgers w/an offer of Verdugo,have the inside track.
Syndergaard is cost-controlled until 2022 & this new Yankee management mindset seems to be wanting to stay under the cap(Prove me wrong Cash & sign Machado!) & using your young players to secure needs in trades seems to be Cashman's priority. From a Mets fan's perspective,I would think they need 2 pieces,Andujar & Realmuto to make this trade,while the Marlins get Florial & other Yankee prospects.
However,once all parties wake up from their naps,they may look at this as too volatile.Fun to think about as a fan & if it did happen,would make baseball in New York even more interesting!
I wonder if the trend towards early involvement of the Pen makes starter innings less of an issue?
RE: RE: As a Yankee fan,I'll preface this by saying,sure I'd love to add
Syndergaard to the pitching staff.My concerns in adding him is that he's never thrown 200 innings in his career (last year 154 innings) & the Yankees just added Paxton,who also has never thrown 200 innings (career high 160 innings last year) so although there is no question about either's stuff, there would be questions about their durability.
Yankees would obviously have to give up an awful lot to make this deal. Andujar & Florial just to start. Would I make such a deal? Yes but I'd much rather try to trade for Kluber but it seems the Dodgers w/an offer of Verdugo,have the inside track.
Syndergaard is cost-controlled until 2022 & this new Yankee management mindset seems to be wanting to stay under the cap(Prove me wrong Cash & sign Machado!) & using your young players to secure needs in trades seems to be Cashman's priority. From a Mets fan's perspective,I would think they need 2 pieces,Andujar & Realmuto to make this trade,while the Marlins get Florial & other Yankee prospects.
However,once all parties wake up from their naps,they may look at this as too volatile.Fun to think about as a fan & if it did happen,would make baseball in New York even more interesting!
I wonder if the trend towards early involvement of the Pen makes starter innings less of an issue?
To some extent,sure. But for these 2 guys the limitation of their innings was,to some degree,injury related.Plus,if an extended post season is the goal, their inning totals will grow considerably. All that being said,I'd still make the deal (although I'd rather trade for Kluber).
Did I miss when Realmuto became the next Johnny Bench?
If the plan is to sign Morton or Happ to replace Thor or Syndergaard... it's a bad one but far worse when you learn the Mets haven't met with either player whereas other teams have. The Phillies have been in "consistent dialogue" with Happ for example. What happens when Happ signs? Then what? You wouldn't have this second move already signed sealed and delivered?
because someone will be getting screwed. I dont mind giving up what it takes to get NS but his injury history is real and its a problem. Id rather make a move for someone else slightly less talented but more reliable.
He actually has had no major injury ever. He missed some time due to a finger issue this past year and he partially tore a lat in another year (muscle injury that fully healed/heals). Zero tendon, ligament, elbow, rotator cuff issues. deGrom easily has a much scarier past.
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Told that Van Wagenen has multiple scenarios working to try to land Realmuto from #Marlins and the 1 involving #Yankees is not among the strongest.
#Mets discussing multiple two- and three-team scenarios involving Realmuto and others, sources say. Team continues to place premium on their SP; would move Syndergaard only for big return. Tyson Ross signed today for $5.75M. Syndergaard will not cost much more in 2019.
The rumors are definitely real. Is it likely? Probably not. Ill freak the fuck out if we trade Thor to you guys though... lol
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The rumors are definitely real. Is it likely? Probably not. Ill freak the fuck out if we trade Thor to you guys though... lol
Martino says its a possibility as well
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How about....
Florial to Mets.
Realmuto to Mets.
Andujar + filler to Marlins
Noah to Yankees
Yankees then sign Machado
Give me a break. Thats still doesnt even scratch the surface. Ill take Judge and we can go from there.
Few have confirmed talks have happened. Who knows if it gets done. Wow
Keeps salary manageable for two years and when you have to extend him Cespedes and Wright are off the books. Either way... No thanks.
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The Mets have indeed discussed Realmuto scenarios including, but not limited to, a three-team deal that would send Noah Syndergaard to the Yankees. Yet I'd urge you to recall Brodie Van Wagenen's words from earlier today:
"We're not going to create a hole by filling another."
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I don't get what's so complicated about this. Realmuto is going to cost more than Grandal if you extend him.
Keeps salary manageable for two years and when you have to extend him Cespedes and Wright are off the books. Either way... No thanks.
If you don't extend him now they're paying even bigger in 2 years or losing him for nothing. But either way the salary is secondary, now way should they give up a more valuable player with more control for Realmuto. Trading Syndergaard for Realmuto would be insanity.
Either way gross. And I already see how this thread is going to go. Thor can be had for nothing. Yankees players are untouchable.. Yada yada.
Andy Martino @martinonyc
Source: The Yankees are interested in Mets pitching, not necessarily limited to Syndergaard
The Mets are still in on J.T. Realmuto, and at least one of the ideas on their Winter Meetings white board is a whopper.
Realmuto is also not their only option:https://www.mlb.com/mets/news/mets-discuss-jt-realmuto-trade-with-marlins/c-301667954
I forgot Realmuto to Mets. I know I am asking too much.
Wheeler to Yanks
Realmuto to Mets
Prospects to Marlins
Wheeler to Yanks
Realmuto to Mets
Prospects to Marlins
I still don't like it. Sign Ramos and Ill keep my ace.
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Mets & Yankees have talked about versions of a three-way deal involving Marlins that would send Realmuto to the Mets & Syndergaard to the Yankees, sources confirm.
A deal is not close, and frankly seems pretty unlikely.
But Brodie Van Wagenen is clearly willing to be creative.
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Source: Prospects being floated in a possible three-team trade involving #Mets, #Marlins by #Yankees are Clint Frazier, Jonathan Loaisiga, Mike King, Chance Adams, and Sonny Gray. It is still pretty early in process from vibe that Im getting. Theres smoke, tho.
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Also have heard that the #Mets have asked #Yankees about Miguel Andujar, who NYYs been unwilling to discuss in trade talks. We will see if this 3-team trade rumor becomes a thing in end.
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Mets and league sources have said Miami wants a haul that includes major-league talent and top prospects. And there's though they don't want to deal inside the division. It's not going to be cheap.
I will tell you this, if the Mets trade Noah Syndergaard, a Norse God, to the muthafuckin' Yankees, then Mets fans will watch as Thor wins MULTIPLE World Series titles in the Bronx. Noah is special. You do not trade this franchise pitcher for J.T. Realmuto. The fact of the matter is that an ace like Thor is way, WAAAAAAAAAAAAY better than the difference between Realmuto and a Wilson Ramos signing.
And I'll end by saying, FUCK THE WILPONS FOR BEING SUCH CHEAP FUCKING OWNERS THAT WON'T JUST GO ALL IN ON A WINNER IN QUEENS. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKCKKKKKKK YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU. I feel better now.
Source: Noah Syndergaard to Yankees is a real possibility but there are 10 other scenarios Mets are considering
Career half year actually. Very mediocre second half.
And when you're only playing 125 games for the full year, a hot half year is a really small sample.
Similarities are striking.
Yankees would obviously have to give up an awful lot to make this deal. Andujar & Florial just to start. Would I make such a deal? Yes but I'd much rather try to trade for Kluber but it seems the Dodgers w/an offer of Verdugo,have the inside track.
Syndergaard is cost-controlled until 2022 & this new Yankee management mindset seems to be wanting to stay under the cap(Prove me wrong Cash & sign Machado!) & using your young players to secure needs in trades seems to be Cashman's priority. From a Mets fan's perspective,I would think they need 2 pieces,Andujar & Realmuto to make this trade,while the Marlins get Florial & other Yankee prospects.
However,once all parties wake up from their naps,they may look at this as too volatile.Fun to think about as a fan & if it did happen,would make baseball in New York even more interesting!
Similarities are striking.
+1000 DON'T TRADE SYNDERGAARD!!! The mets are not in a position to trade, they need to add players via FA, just cet a CF and a C and they will be fine, don't get stupid!
Yankees would obviously have to give up an awful lot to make this deal. Andujar & Florial just to start. Would I make such a deal? Yes but I'd much rather try to trade for Kluber but it seems the Dodgers w/an offer of Verdugo,have the inside track.
Syndergaard is cost-controlled until 2022 & this new Yankee management mindset seems to be wanting to stay under the cap(Prove me wrong Cash & sign Machado!) & using your young players to secure needs in trades seems to be Cashman's priority. From a Mets fan's perspective,I would think they need 2 pieces,Andujar & Realmuto to make this trade,while the Marlins get Florial & other Yankee prospects.
However,once all parties wake up from their naps,they may look at this as too volatile.Fun to think about as a fan & if it did happen,would make baseball in New York even more interesting!
I wonder if the trend towards early involvement of the Pen makes starter innings less of an issue?
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Syndergaard to the pitching staff.My concerns in adding him is that he's never thrown 200 innings in his career (last year 154 innings) & the Yankees just added Paxton,who also has never thrown 200 innings (career high 160 innings last year) so although there is no question about either's stuff, there would be questions about their durability.
Yankees would obviously have to give up an awful lot to make this deal. Andujar & Florial just to start. Would I make such a deal? Yes but I'd much rather try to trade for Kluber but it seems the Dodgers w/an offer of Verdugo,have the inside track.
Syndergaard is cost-controlled until 2022 & this new Yankee management mindset seems to be wanting to stay under the cap(Prove me wrong Cash & sign Machado!) & using your young players to secure needs in trades seems to be Cashman's priority. From a Mets fan's perspective,I would think they need 2 pieces,Andujar & Realmuto to make this trade,while the Marlins get Florial & other Yankee prospects.
However,once all parties wake up from their naps,they may look at this as too volatile.Fun to think about as a fan & if it did happen,would make baseball in New York even more interesting!
I wonder if the trend towards early involvement of the Pen makes starter innings less of an issue?
To some extent,sure. But for these 2 guys the limitation of their innings was,to some degree,injury related.Plus,if an extended post season is the goal, their inning totals will grow considerably. All that being said,I'd still make the deal (although I'd rather trade for Kluber).
There is no way the Wilpon's would sign off on a trade where Thor is heading to the Bronx. The backlash would put Fred in an early grave.
He actually has had no major injury ever. He missed some time due to a finger issue this past year and he partially tore a lat in another year (muscle injury that fully healed/heals). Zero tendon, ligament, elbow, rotator cuff issues. deGrom easily has a much scarier past.