I wouldn't love that deal personally as I think Mcneil isn't that far off Realmuto and obviously has more years of cheap control. But him + a prospect would seem like the type of return that would make sense for Miami. And possibly the mets too since they (stupidly) may not even see Mcneil as the every day starting 3b over Frazier.
Like I said, I wouldn't love that deal and I think Realmuto is getting insanely overpriced, but a deal along those lines would make a hell of a lot more sense than trading Thor.
it is when discussing mediocre Sonny Gray who makes MORE than him.
Again, would you be shocked if the Mets told the Yankees they need an arm back, in order to make a Thor deal and open up a Machado signing the Yankees would offer Gray and some $$ to offset costs? Gray screams a guy who a team will trade for and see if he could recoup his value and become a potential deal at the deadline in 2019 to add more prospects.
There are few absolutes in life. But one is that Sonny Gray will not be a Yankee in 2019. It's just a question of where is the right place to trade him.
To me, the caveat with an Andujar trade is that it has to mean Machado is a corresponding move.
If we're dealing Andujar and Todd Frazier is our 3B next year, I wouldn't be too thrilled.
Andujar only makes sense if Machado is coming to the Yankees. Didi is going to be out more or less all next year. They aren't filling 2 holes with stopgap players in a Frazier and whoever else to hold down the fort for Didi.
see Frazier come back in a deal for Syndergaard. Frazier could play 3rd, Machado at Short, Torres at 2b to start year, provides insurance if the Voit / Bird 1b doesnt work out so that when Didi comes back Machado shifts to third and Frazier could shift to 1st.
That's true - Todd Frazier could make sense for NYY if they want to roll with Machado @ SS temporarily while Didi is out. Then, move Machado to 3B when Didi is back and maybe they look into extending Didi - or they can explore other options @ SS and put Machado @ 3B regardless.
Machado just has to be signed if Andujar is dealt, IMO - there's basically no way trading Andujar works without that component.
and I'm sure thats the plan. They've probably been weighing MM vs Harper and it's all contingent on their next move. If they move Andujar, it's gotta be MM and I'm sure the Yankees are thinking the same thing.
Yankees get Syndergaard, Todd Frazier
Mets get Andujar and Realmuto
Marlins get Clint Frazier, Greg Bird and Loasiga
Who wins, who loses?
Andujar has to go to Marlins. Mets want Realmuto but they don't have the MLB impact player available that makes sense for Miami. Andujar is exactly the type of player the Marlins want. And again, the Yankees wouldn't do any of this unless Machado is coming.
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Have heard multiple times now this scenario laid out: #Yankees try to get Realmuto, keep Sanchez as catcher/DH, move Stanton to OF more regularly. #Marlins
So, the would get Sanchez out and make him a fulltime DH? Play Stanton in the outfield? And then I guess sign Machado.
That rumor screams Yankees putting squeeze on Mets to say they will do the deal without them and get the right other chips to swing Realmuto for Thor.
Given the injury breakdown risk inherent in all pitchers, does Thor's motion have one too many moving parts and less then perfect mechanics so as to make him less likely to endure into his 30's and do so at over 175 innings per year?
Compared to those few pitchers with ace stuff and ace mechanics? ( Franchise Ace's if you will. Like DeGrom?)
There is no need to trade Thor right now, still has years of control.
What happens when JT is a FA after next year? Are they going to pony up and pay him? Just sign Grandal or Ramos who at the end of the day will end up being cheaper after two years then what you would have to shell out for JT.
Given the injury breakdown risk inherent in all pitchers, does Thor's motion have one too many moving parts and less then perfect mechanics so as to make him less likely to endure into his 30's and do so at over 175 innings per year?
Compared to those few pitchers with ace stuff and ace mechanics? ( Franchise Ace's if you will. Like DeGrom?)
Syndergaard has an extremely simple delivery for a big guy. Link - ( New Window )
Given the injury breakdown risk inherent in all pitchers, does Thor's motion have one too many moving parts and less then perfect mechanics so as to make him less likely to endure into his 30's and do so at over 175 innings per year?
Compared to those few pitchers with ace stuff and ace mechanics? ( Franchise Ace's if you will. Like DeGrom?)
Thor does not have a lot of moving pieces in his delivery.
All downside for the Mets - I know he's had injury problems but you don't trade one of the top 5 pitching talents in the game to your crosstown rival and not get one of their top guys (Torres, Judge, etc.).
Basically they would be trading Frazier + Andujar for Thor + Machado signing.
wouldn't work with the Yankees. The fact that they are in the same city should mean nothing, IMO. I think it's a great job by BVW to include a team always willing to make moves into the discussion. The ONLY thing that the Mets should be concerned with, IMO, is making the Mets better.
I add a significant bullpen piece (Miller, Familia, etc.)
I add a catcher. Ramos or Grandal. We know the Mets have already met with Ramos
I add a starting pitcher like Morton or Keuchel.
and I roll with it.
Pipe dream, I pursue both Machado and/or Harper, Mets could use both or either.
I don't see how trading Syndergaard makes the Mets better based on the proposed trades (in this thread at least).
And my comment have nothing to do with the Yankees. If I was a GM I'd trade my son to the Yankees if it made the Mets better. I don't consider them a rival and have no hate toward them other than when they play each other.
I watch almost every Yankee game but rarely any other team so I did not know that about Thor. I was wondering if there was going forward risk and they were selling high
Honestly, I don't know why the Mets would trade the guy.
imo, when this trade happens it happens. Until then it sure seems like media in a echo chamber tweeting without filters
He made a ton of sense when 3B was wide open but now that we acquired Cano, thats no longer the case. I still empty the Brinks truck for Harper though.
Yankees get Syndergaard and a Mets minor leaguer like Cheech, Lindsay, or Mauricio
Mets get Realmuto and Aaron Hicks (MUST be in the deal)
Marlins get Andujar, Loaisiga, Green
I still hate it, and the Yankees giving up Hicks, Andujar, Loaisiga, and Green sounds like a lot, but if you're getting back Thor and going to sign Machado, it's not crazy.
For the Mets, getting Realmuto AND Hicks make the deal not batshit crazy.
I watch almost every Yankee game but rarely any other team so I did not know that about Thor. I was wondering if there was going forward risk and they were selling high
Honestly, I don't know why the Mets would trade the guy.
imo, when this trade happens it happens. Until then it sure seems like media in a echo chamber tweeting without filters
The Mets aren't going to pay DeGrom and Thor. They were going to pick one to keep and DeGrom is the obvious choice. And with a pitcher, you want to trade him before any injuries hit as a precaution. The Mets still have Wheeler and Matz there. It's a financial decision.
I watch almost every Yankee game but rarely any other team so I did not know that about Thor. I was wondering if there was going forward risk and they were selling high
Honestly, I don't know why the Mets would trade the guy.
imo, when this trade happens it happens. Until then it sure seems like media in a echo chamber tweeting without filters
The Mets aren't going to pay DeGrom and Thor. They were going to pick one to keep and DeGrom is the obvious choice. And with a pitcher, you want to trade him before any injuries hit as a precaution. The Mets still have Wheeler and Matz there. It's a financial decision.
This is a poor argument to trade Syndergaard. He's not a FA for 3 years AND you still have to sign Realmuto to a contract vs. Syndergaard. It's one thing if Syndergaard were a pending FA. He's not. A lot can happen in 3 seasons.
Yankees get Syndergaard and a Mets minor leaguer like Cheech, Lindsay, or Mauricio
Mets get Realmuto and Aaron Hicks (MUST be in the deal)
Marlins get Andujar, Loaisiga, Green
I still hate it, and the Yankees giving up Hicks, Andujar, Loaisiga, and Green sounds like a lot, but if you're getting back Thor and going to sign Machado, it's not crazy.
For the Mets, getting Realmuto AND Hicks make the deal not batshit crazy.
Why would the Yankees trade Hicks? There is no reason for them to do so. If anything, the Mets are the ones pursuing Realmuto which is triggering all this. And would make sense for the Sherman rumor that the Yankees are saying they will just go ahead and deal for him themselves since they actually have the pieces the Marlins want, not the Mets. Mets need a 3rd team to make it work. It might be because the Mets want a Hicks and the Yankees are telling them to stuff it.
I watch almost every Yankee game but rarely any other team so I did not know that about Thor. I was wondering if there was going forward risk and they were selling high
Honestly, I don't know why the Mets would trade the guy.
imo, when this trade happens it happens. Until then it sure seems like media in a echo chamber tweeting without filters
The Mets aren't going to pay DeGrom and Thor. They were going to pick one to keep and DeGrom is the obvious choice. And with a pitcher, you want to trade him before any injuries hit as a precaution. The Mets still have Wheeler and Matz there. It's a financial decision.
This is a poor argument to trade Syndergaard. He's not a FA for 3 years AND you still have to sign Realmuto to a contract vs. Syndergaard. It's one thing if Syndergaard were a pending FA. He's not. A lot can happen in 3 seasons.
Yankees get Syndergaard and a Mets minor leaguer like Cheech, Lindsay, or Mauricio
Mets get Realmuto and Aaron Hicks (MUST be in the deal)
Marlins get Andujar, Loaisiga, Green
I still hate it, and the Yankees giving up Hicks, Andujar, Loaisiga, and Green sounds like a lot, but if you're getting back Thor and going to sign Machado, it's not crazy.
For the Mets, getting Realmuto AND Hicks make the deal not batshit crazy.
Why would the Yankees trade Hicks? There is no reason for them to do so. If anything, the Mets are the ones pursuing Realmuto which is triggering all this. And would make sense for the Sherman rumor that the Yankees are saying they will just go ahead and deal for him themselves since they actually have the pieces the Marlins want, not the Mets. Mets need a 3rd team to make it work. It might be because the Mets want a Hicks and the Yankees are telling them to stuff it.
Because they'd be getting back one of the best young starting pitchers in the game?
Why would the Yankees trade Hicks? There is no reason for them to do so.
If the Yankees trade Hicks and hold onto Andujar, they can then sign Harper to play left field and play Gardner in center for one year before Florial takes over in 2020.
I'd rather lose Hicks and sign Harper than lose Andujar and sign Machado.
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Will say this about outside perception about what #Yankees will do, internally NYY doesnt love Stanton regularly in OF for health/result reasons and have never seemed to believe they have good match for Realmuto plus Cashman has said Sanchez is his catcher.
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Seems to be saying that outsiders are floating the scenario of Stanton to OF and Sanchez to DH, not the Yankees.
Yankees get Syndergaard and a Mets minor leaguer like Cheech, Lindsay, or Mauricio
Mets get Realmuto and Aaron Hicks (MUST be in the deal)
Marlins get Andujar, Loaisiga, Green
I still hate it, and the Yankees giving up Hicks, Andujar, Loaisiga, and Green sounds like a lot, but if you're getting back Thor and going to sign Machado, it's not crazy.
For the Mets, getting Realmuto AND Hicks make the deal not batshit crazy.
Why would the Yankees trade Hicks? There is no reason for them to do so. If anything, the Mets are the ones pursuing Realmuto which is triggering all this. And would make sense for the Sherman rumor that the Yankees are saying they will just go ahead and deal for him themselves since they actually have the pieces the Marlins want, not the Mets. Mets need a 3rd team to make it work. It might be because the Mets want a Hicks and the Yankees are telling them to stuff it.
Because they'd be getting back one of the best young starting pitchers in the game?
They dont have to give up Hicks because the Mets, from what it sounds like, need a third team to get Realmuto.
Yankees get Syndergaard and a Mets minor leaguer like Cheech, Lindsay, or Mauricio
Mets get Realmuto and Aaron Hicks (MUST be in the deal)
Marlins get Andujar, Loaisiga, Green
I still hate it, and the Yankees giving up Hicks, Andujar, Loaisiga, and Green sounds like a lot, but if you're getting back Thor and going to sign Machado, it's not crazy.
For the Mets, getting Realmuto AND Hicks make the deal not batshit crazy.
Why would the Yankees trade Hicks? There is no reason for them to do so. If anything, the Mets are the ones pursuing Realmuto which is triggering all this. And would make sense for the Sherman rumor that the Yankees are saying they will just go ahead and deal for him themselves since they actually have the pieces the Marlins want, not the Mets. Mets need a 3rd team to make it work. It might be because the Mets want a Hicks and the Yankees are telling them to stuff it.
Matt, the Mets aren't going to trade Noah Syndergaard and his 3 years of control for just J.T. Realmuto. Never going to happen. There HAS to be another legit piece coming back.
Yankees get Syndergaard and a Mets minor leaguer like Cheech, Lindsay, or Mauricio
Mets get Realmuto and Aaron Hicks (MUST be in the deal)
Marlins get Andujar, Loaisiga, Green
I still hate it, and the Yankees giving up Hicks, Andujar, Loaisiga, and Green sounds like a lot, but if you're getting back Thor and going to sign Machado, it's not crazy.
For the Mets, getting Realmuto AND Hicks make the deal not batshit crazy.
Yanks are not trading Starting CF (2nd to Trout in AL Stats), starting 3Bman, a BP set up man and a potential SP for Syndergaard.
not saying it fits perfectly, but if he were a FA he'd fit somewhere between Corbin and Eovaldi - both guys they pursued as FA who were obviously in high demand on the open market. Is 1 year of that worth Andujar? Probably not, that's pretty rich. But if the Marlins like other pieces in the Yankees system better than the Mets, maybe there's something that lines up. Not entirely familiar with how they are valued right now but maybe Sanchez or Bird would have interest for Miami (in combo with some other prospects from either mets or yankees system). Something that equates to Realmuto for Wheeler+ is the only thing that makes sense to me from the Mets side.
Think Syndergaard is being overvalued here, frankly
is much greater than the way another team would value him in a trade given the pending free agency.
Hicks would not headline a package for a bigtime SP, and the Yankees would much sooner add to the prospect return than move their starting CF as a secondary/tertiary piece.
Plus defense, plus discipline, switch hitter, very good baserunner, power.
Not out of the question that he gets moved, but I don't see it happening. I think it's more likely that they play out the year. If they trade Florial, they likely look to sign Hicks long term. If Florial is kept and rebounds from last year, Hicks probably declines a QO and walks, NYY gladly takes the pick.
RE: Think Syndergaard is being overvalued here, frankly
He ain't Chris Sale or Corey Kluber. He has overwhelming stuff but hasn't yet made the jump from very good starter to great Cy Young candidate.
Greg,
He was 11th in baseball in FIP second half and since debuting in 2015 he's 14th. How overrated can he be? 13 pitchers have been better by FIP and 13th by fWAR and that's WITH his missed time. Gotta disagree with you here. He's very, very good with a chance to be a Cy Young caliber pitcher still.
Another reason why his value is so high. I would never trade him if the main return is Realmuto. Just sign Grandal instead. This makes no sense to me.
Sale returned Moncada and Kopech and two lesser prospects
say this goes through (which I doubt)
Syndergaard returns Andjuar and Realmuto
Obviously the White Sox were looking for prospects, not major leaguers and they got the #1 prospect in the game and another top 30/50 prospect.
Doesn't seem that much different to me.
Like I said, I wouldn't love that deal and I think Realmuto is getting insanely overpriced, but a deal along those lines would make a hell of a lot more sense than trading Thor.
So, Yanks get NS.
Miami gets Andujar and CF (Hicks or Florial)
Mets get Realmuto and Gray.
Maybe?
Who knows - I like this stuff though - it's fun to speculate and that's what the hot stove league is all about.
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Inconsequential. He isnt making anything.
it is when discussing mediocre Sonny Gray who makes MORE than him.
Again, would you be shocked if the Mets told the Yankees they need an arm back, in order to make a Thor deal and open up a Machado signing the Yankees would offer Gray and some $$ to offset costs? Gray screams a guy who a team will trade for and see if he could recoup his value and become a potential deal at the deadline in 2019 to add more prospects.
There are few absolutes in life. But one is that Sonny Gray will not be a Yankee in 2019. It's just a question of where is the right place to trade him.
To me, the caveat with an Andujar trade is that it has to mean Machado is a corresponding move.
If we're dealing Andujar and Todd Frazier is our 3B next year, I wouldn't be too thrilled.
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off the Mets hands to free up some money too?
To me, the caveat with an Andujar trade is that it has to mean Machado is a corresponding move.
If we're dealing Andujar and Todd Frazier is our 3B next year, I wouldn't be too thrilled.
ARC. I dont think its Todd Frazier in the deal. Its Clint Frazier
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off the Mets hands to free up some money too?
To me, the caveat with an Andujar trade is that it has to mean Machado is a corresponding move.
If we're dealing Andujar and Todd Frazier is our 3B next year, I wouldn't be too thrilled.
Andujar only makes sense if Machado is coming to the Yankees. Didi is going to be out more or less all next year. They aren't filling 2 holes with stopgap players in a Frazier and whoever else to hold down the fort for Didi.
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off the Mets hands to free up some money too?
To me, the caveat with an Andujar trade is that it has to mean Machado is a corresponding move.
If we're dealing Andujar and Todd Frazier is our 3B next year, I wouldn't be too thrilled.
My bad. I read ur post wrong
Mets get Andujar and Realmuto
Marlins get Clint Frazier, Greg Bird and Loasiga
Who wins, who loses?
Mets get Andujar and Realmuto
Marlins get Clint Frazier, Greg Bird and Loasiga
Who wins, who loses?
Marlins lose.
I'm not sure who wins?
Yanks win if they also sign Manny Machado.
Machado just has to be signed if Andujar is dealt, IMO - there's basically no way trading Andujar works without that component.
Mets get Andujar and Realmuto
Marlins get Clint Frazier, Greg Bird and Loasiga
Who wins, who loses?
Andujar has to go to Marlins. Mets want Realmuto but they don't have the MLB impact player available that makes sense for Miami. Andujar is exactly the type of player the Marlins want. And again, the Yankees wouldn't do any of this unless Machado is coming.
I don't think so. At least I hope not.
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Have heard multiple times now this scenario laid out: #Yankees try to get Realmuto, keep Sanchez as catcher/DH, move Stanton to OF more regularly. #Marlins
So, the would get Sanchez out and make him a fulltime DH? Play Stanton in the outfield? And then I guess sign Machado.
That rumor screams Yankees putting squeeze on Mets to say they will do the deal without them and get the right other chips to swing Realmuto for Thor.
Compared to those few pitchers with ace stuff and ace mechanics? ( Franchise Ace's if you will. Like DeGrom?)
What happens when JT is a FA after next year? Are they going to pony up and pay him? Just sign Grandal or Ramos who at the end of the day will end up being cheaper after two years then what you would have to shell out for JT.
Oh yeah and you keep Thor...
Compared to those few pitchers with ace stuff and ace mechanics? ( Franchise Ace's if you will. Like DeGrom?)
Syndergaard has an extremely simple delivery for a big guy.
Link - ( New Window )
Compared to those few pitchers with ace stuff and ace mechanics? ( Franchise Ace's if you will. Like DeGrom?)
Thor does not have a lot of moving pieces in his delivery.
Basically they would be trading Frazier + Andujar for Thor + Machado signing.
I add a significant bullpen piece (Miller, Familia, etc.)
I add a catcher. Ramos or Grandal. We know the Mets have already met with Ramos
I add a starting pitcher like Morton or Keuchel.
and I roll with it.
Pipe dream, I pursue both Machado and/or Harper, Mets could use both or either.
I don't see how trading Syndergaard makes the Mets better based on the proposed trades (in this thread at least).
And my comment have nothing to do with the Yankees. If I was a GM I'd trade my son to the Yankees if it made the Mets better. I don't consider them a rival and have no hate toward them other than when they play each other.
Honestly, I don't know why the Mets would trade the guy.
imo, when this trade happens it happens. Until then it sure seems like media in a echo chamber tweeting without filters
Yankees get Syndergaard and a Mets minor leaguer like Cheech, Lindsay, or Mauricio
Mets get Realmuto and Aaron Hicks (MUST be in the deal)
Marlins get Andujar, Loaisiga, Green
I still hate it, and the Yankees giving up Hicks, Andujar, Loaisiga, and Green sounds like a lot, but if you're getting back Thor and going to sign Machado, it's not crazy.
For the Mets, getting Realmuto AND Hicks make the deal not batshit crazy.
Honestly, I don't know why the Mets would trade the guy.
imo, when this trade happens it happens. Until then it sure seems like media in a echo chamber tweeting without filters
The Mets aren't going to pay DeGrom and Thor. They were going to pick one to keep and DeGrom is the obvious choice. And with a pitcher, you want to trade him before any injuries hit as a precaution. The Mets still have Wheeler and Matz there. It's a financial decision.
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I watch almost every Yankee game but rarely any other team so I did not know that about Thor. I was wondering if there was going forward risk and they were selling high
Honestly, I don't know why the Mets would trade the guy.
imo, when this trade happens it happens. Until then it sure seems like media in a echo chamber tweeting without filters
The Mets aren't going to pay DeGrom and Thor. They were going to pick one to keep and DeGrom is the obvious choice. And with a pitcher, you want to trade him before any injuries hit as a precaution. The Mets still have Wheeler and Matz there. It's a financial decision.
This is a poor argument to trade Syndergaard. He's not a FA for 3 years AND you still have to sign Realmuto to a contract vs. Syndergaard. It's one thing if Syndergaard were a pending FA. He's not. A lot can happen in 3 seasons.
Yankees get Syndergaard and a Mets minor leaguer like Cheech, Lindsay, or Mauricio
Mets get Realmuto and Aaron Hicks (MUST be in the deal)
Marlins get Andujar, Loaisiga, Green
I still hate it, and the Yankees giving up Hicks, Andujar, Loaisiga, and Green sounds like a lot, but if you're getting back Thor and going to sign Machado, it's not crazy.
For the Mets, getting Realmuto AND Hicks make the deal not batshit crazy.
Why would the Yankees trade Hicks? There is no reason for them to do so. If anything, the Mets are the ones pursuing Realmuto which is triggering all this. And would make sense for the Sherman rumor that the Yankees are saying they will just go ahead and deal for him themselves since they actually have the pieces the Marlins want, not the Mets. Mets need a 3rd team to make it work. It might be because the Mets want a Hicks and the Yankees are telling them to stuff it.
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I watch almost every Yankee game but rarely any other team so I did not know that about Thor. I was wondering if there was going forward risk and they were selling high
Honestly, I don't know why the Mets would trade the guy.
imo, when this trade happens it happens. Until then it sure seems like media in a echo chamber tweeting without filters
The Mets aren't going to pay DeGrom and Thor. They were going to pick one to keep and DeGrom is the obvious choice. And with a pitcher, you want to trade him before any injuries hit as a precaution. The Mets still have Wheeler and Matz there. It's a financial decision.
This is a poor argument to trade Syndergaard. He's not a FA for 3 years AND you still have to sign Realmuto to a contract vs. Syndergaard. It's one thing if Syndergaard were a pending FA. He's not. A lot can happen in 3 seasons.
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The trade, IMV, would be:
Yankees get Syndergaard and a Mets minor leaguer like Cheech, Lindsay, or Mauricio
Mets get Realmuto and Aaron Hicks (MUST be in the deal)
Marlins get Andujar, Loaisiga, Green
I still hate it, and the Yankees giving up Hicks, Andujar, Loaisiga, and Green sounds like a lot, but if you're getting back Thor and going to sign Machado, it's not crazy.
For the Mets, getting Realmuto AND Hicks make the deal not batshit crazy.
Why would the Yankees trade Hicks? There is no reason for them to do so. If anything, the Mets are the ones pursuing Realmuto which is triggering all this. And would make sense for the Sherman rumor that the Yankees are saying they will just go ahead and deal for him themselves since they actually have the pieces the Marlins want, not the Mets. Mets need a 3rd team to make it work. It might be because the Mets want a Hicks and the Yankees are telling them to stuff it.
Because they'd be getting back one of the best young starting pitchers in the game?
Why would the Yankees trade Hicks? There is no reason for them to do so.
I'd rather lose Hicks and sign Harper than lose Andujar and sign Machado.
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Will say this about outside perception about what #Yankees will do, internally NYY doesnt love Stanton regularly in OF for health/result reasons and have never seemed to believe they have good match for Realmuto plus Cashman has said Sanchez is his catcher.
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Seems to be saying that outsiders are floating the scenario of Stanton to OF and Sanchez to DH, not the Yankees.
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The trade, IMV, would be:
Yankees get Syndergaard and a Mets minor leaguer like Cheech, Lindsay, or Mauricio
Mets get Realmuto and Aaron Hicks (MUST be in the deal)
Marlins get Andujar, Loaisiga, Green
I still hate it, and the Yankees giving up Hicks, Andujar, Loaisiga, and Green sounds like a lot, but if you're getting back Thor and going to sign Machado, it's not crazy.
For the Mets, getting Realmuto AND Hicks make the deal not batshit crazy.
Why would the Yankees trade Hicks? There is no reason for them to do so. If anything, the Mets are the ones pursuing Realmuto which is triggering all this. And would make sense for the Sherman rumor that the Yankees are saying they will just go ahead and deal for him themselves since they actually have the pieces the Marlins want, not the Mets. Mets need a 3rd team to make it work. It might be because the Mets want a Hicks and the Yankees are telling them to stuff it.
Because they'd be getting back one of the best young starting pitchers in the game?
They dont have to give up Hicks because the Mets, from what it sounds like, need a third team to get Realmuto.
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The trade, IMV, would be:
Yankees get Syndergaard and a Mets minor leaguer like Cheech, Lindsay, or Mauricio
Mets get Realmuto and Aaron Hicks (MUST be in the deal)
Marlins get Andujar, Loaisiga, Green
I still hate it, and the Yankees giving up Hicks, Andujar, Loaisiga, and Green sounds like a lot, but if you're getting back Thor and going to sign Machado, it's not crazy.
For the Mets, getting Realmuto AND Hicks make the deal not batshit crazy.
Why would the Yankees trade Hicks? There is no reason for them to do so. If anything, the Mets are the ones pursuing Realmuto which is triggering all this. And would make sense for the Sherman rumor that the Yankees are saying they will just go ahead and deal for him themselves since they actually have the pieces the Marlins want, not the Mets. Mets need a 3rd team to make it work. It might be because the Mets want a Hicks and the Yankees are telling them to stuff it.
Matt, the Mets aren't going to trade Noah Syndergaard and his 3 years of control for just J.T. Realmuto. Never going to happen. There HAS to be another legit piece coming back.
Yankees get Syndergaard and a Mets minor leaguer like Cheech, Lindsay, or Mauricio
Mets get Realmuto and Aaron Hicks (MUST be in the deal)
Marlins get Andujar, Loaisiga, Green
I still hate it, and the Yankees giving up Hicks, Andujar, Loaisiga, and Green sounds like a lot, but if you're getting back Thor and going to sign Machado, it's not crazy.
For the Mets, getting Realmuto AND Hicks make the deal not batshit crazy.
Yanks are not trading Starting CF (2nd to Trout in AL Stats), starting 3Bman, a BP set up man and a potential SP for Syndergaard.
Hicks would not headline a package for a bigtime SP, and the Yankees would much sooner add to the prospect return than move their starting CF as a secondary/tertiary piece.
Plus defense, plus discipline, switch hitter, very good baserunner, power.
Not out of the question that he gets moved, but I don't see it happening. I think it's more likely that they play out the year. If they trade Florial, they likely look to sign Hicks long term. If Florial is kept and rebounds from last year, Hicks probably declines a QO and walks, NYY gladly takes the pick.
Greg,
He was 11th in baseball in FIP second half and since debuting in 2015 he's 14th. How overrated can he be? 13 pitchers have been better by FIP and 13th by fWAR and that's WITH his missed time. Gotta disagree with you here. He's very, very good with a chance to be a Cy Young caliber pitcher still.