and he said this 3 team scenario with Thor and the yankees is likely 100% BS... remember the winter meetings is a petri dish of bad info , agents , writers all have an agenda and will knowingly pass along stuff they know is not true ... tweeters/ writers do it knowing is bullshit so teh agents / gms will owe them a favor .. as long as they can still say they heard "X" .. they can write it ... fake news is rampant in sports as well :)
I wasn't trying to be critical, lol. I agree with your stance on this.
trade is an excellent framework for what a Syndergaard trade should look like. Sale had 5 years of excellent numbers to Thor's 3 but Syndergaards age compared to Sale sort of even it out and both had minor dings to their durability makeup. Sale had early career shoulder questions but at the time of the trade had 5 years of about 30 starts a season and 3 200+ inning seasons, Syndergaard having less elbow / shoulder concerns than Sale but failing to reach 200 innings. Both have 3 years of team control at the time of the deal.
The Sox gave up the #2 overall & #32 overall prospects in the game as well as a guy rated organizationally 8th and 28th at the time. The equivalent deal would almost be term for term Andujar (not ranked as a prospect anymore, but rookie of the year runner up), Florial - #45 ranked prospect, and maybe Loiasiga - #66 ranked & someone like a Ryder Green or other lower end 4th piece with upside. This upgrades the back end of the deal the Sox made as Loaisiga is light years better than the two throw ins in the Sale trade to make up for the slightly lower ranked Florial than Kopech. However you divvy up those four players between the Mets and the Marlins, that would be what a fair offer from the Yankees would be to receive Syndergaard.
A proven major league hitter is worth more than the #2 prospect. You won't get Andjuar and Florial.
I am not sure that rumors like this are about this trade
and he said this 3 team scenario with Thor and the yankees is likely 100% BS... remember the winter meetings is a petri dish of bad info , agents , writers all have an agenda and will knowingly pass along stuff they know is not true ... tweeters/ writers do it knowing is bullshit so teh agents / gms will owe them a favor .. as long as they can still say they heard "X" .. they can write it ... fake news is rampant in sports as well :)
also a dodger contact wanted to be me they get Bryce - I said no bet - FYI
and he said this 3 team scenario with Thor and the yankees is likely 100% BS... remember the winter meetings is a petri dish of bad info , agents , writers all have an agenda and will knowingly pass along stuff they know is not true ... tweeters/ writers do it knowing is bullshit so teh agents / gms will owe them a favor .. as long as they can still say they heard "X" .. they can write it ... fake news is rampant in sports as well :)
Thanks Capone. I hope its the case and Thor isnt traded to the Yankees for a crappy package.
and he said this 3 team scenario with Thor and the yankees is likely 100% BS... remember the winter meetings is a petri dish of bad info , agents , writers all have an agenda and will knowingly pass along stuff they know is not true ... tweeters/ writers do it knowing is bullshit so teh agents / gms will owe them a favor .. as long as they can still say they heard "X" .. they can write it ... fake news is rampant in sports as well :)
Thanks Capone. I hope its the case and Thor isnt traded to the Yankees for a crappy package.
Or the Yankees overpay for an NL pitcher likely to struggle in the AL East.
are not getting Noah Syndergaard, they don't have the capital to afford him without including Torres and that's not going to happen. Heck,
I don't think Andujar, Frazier and Loaisaga is enough to get back Wheeler and I'm a Yankee fan...
The Yankees are not getting Noah Syndergaard, they don't have the capital to afford him without including Torres and that's not going to happen. Heck, I don't think Andujar, Frazier and Loaisaga is enough to get back Wheeler and I'm a Yankee fan... Reformatted
Andujar, Frazier and Loaisiga isn't enough for Zack Wheeler?
The guy had half a great season. Before that, he was mediocre to awful going back through 2017, and missed two full seasons before that, and turns 29 next season.
Wheeler began 2018 in the minors. He had a ridiculous 3.5 months after a slow start, but I'd need to see more before ponying up a ton in terms of high end prospects.
I'd acquire him, but I don't think that post about not being enough is accurate.
and he said this 3 team scenario with Thor and the yankees is likely 100% BS... remember the winter meetings is a petri dish of bad info , agents , writers all have an agenda and will knowingly pass along stuff they know is not true ... tweeters/ writers do it knowing is bullshit so teh agents / gms will owe them a favor .. as long as they can still say they heard "X" .. they can write it ... fake news is rampant in sports as well :)
Thanks Capone. I hope its the case and Thor isnt traded to the Yankees for a crappy package.
Or the Yankees overpay for an NL pitcher likely to struggle in the AL East.
Lol, right. The scary AL East. Its amazing any pitcher succeeds pitching to any of those teams. Im willing to bet NS would do just fine.
But then again, its just as easy to say that any of your player wouldnt hit nearly as well with the top flight starting pitchers in the NL East.
Wheeler was brilliant last year, really came into his own and that's what teams are paying for now, look at Corbin and Eovaldi - prime years and recent high uptick in performance.
RE: Andujar, Frazier and Loaisiga isn't enough for Zack Wheeler?
The guy had half a great season. Before that, he was mediocre to awful going back through 2017, and missed two full seasons before that, and turns 29 next season.
You're nuts.
I would do that in a heartbeat. Dont know why the Yankees would though.
The guy had half a great season. Before that, he was mediocre to awful going back through 2017, and missed two full seasons before that, and turns 29 next season.
You're nuts.
I would do that in a heartbeat. Dont know why the Yankees would though.
For one Andujar is probably the worst fielding 3B in all of baseball.
Then follow the with the injuries to Frazier last year where he basically missed the entire season with concussion syndrome and Loaisaga who has been injured every year he has played.
The guy had half a great season. Before that, he was mediocre to awful going back through 2017, and missed two full seasons before that, and turns 29 next season.
You're nuts.
I would do that in a heartbeat. Dont know why the Yankees would though.
For one Andujar is probably the worst fielding 3B in all of baseball.
Then follow the with the injuries to Frazier last year where he basically missed the entire season with concussion syndrome and Loaisaga who has been injured every year he has played.
I would take Wheeler for the 3 in a NYC minute.
That would be a really bad trade. One year of control on Wheeler.
The guy had half a great season. Before that, he was mediocre to awful going back through 2017, and missed two full seasons before that, and turns 29 next season.
You're nuts.
I would do that in a heartbeat. Dont know why the Yankees would though.
For one Andujar is probably the worst fielding 3B in all of baseball.
Then follow the with the injuries to Frazier last year where he basically missed the entire season with concussion syndrome and Loaisaga who has been injured every year he has played.
I would take Wheeler for the 3 in a NYC minute.
That would be a really bad trade. One year of control on Wheeler.
The premise is the Yankees would resign him. But I get your point.
RE: RE: RE: Andujar, Frazier and Loaisiga isn't enough for Zack Wheeler?
The guy had half a great season. Before that, he was mediocre to awful going back through 2017, and missed two full seasons before that, and turns 29 next season.
You're nuts.
I would do that in a heartbeat. Dont know why the Yankees would though.
For one Andujar is probably the worst fielding 3B in all of baseball.
Then follow the with the injuries to Frazier last year where he basically missed the entire season with concussion syndrome and Loaisaga who has been injured every year he has played.
I would take Wheeler for the 3 in a NYC minute.
Andujar is also a ridiculous hitter and was a rookie. So, uh, no..
RE: RE: RE: RE: Andujar, Frazier and Loaisiga isn't enough for Zack Wheeler?
The guy had half a great season. Before that, he was mediocre to awful going back through 2017, and missed two full seasons before that, and turns 29 next season.
You're nuts.
I would do that in a heartbeat. Dont know why the Yankees would though.
For one Andujar is probably the worst fielding 3B in all of baseball.
Then follow the with the injuries to Frazier last year where he basically missed the entire season with concussion syndrome and Loaisaga who has been injured every year he has played.
I would take Wheeler for the 3 in a NYC minute.
Andujar is also a ridiculous hitter and was a rookie. So, uh, no..
Andujar is a nightmare in the field, big liability. Sell now...
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Andujar, Frazier and Loaisiga isn't enough for Zack Wheeler?
The guy had half a great season. Before that, he was mediocre to awful going back through 2017, and missed two full seasons before that, and turns 29 next season.
You're nuts.
I would do that in a heartbeat. Dont know why the Yankees would though.
For one Andujar is probably the worst fielding 3B in all of baseball.
Then follow the with the injuries to Frazier last year where he basically missed the entire season with concussion syndrome and Loaisaga who has been injured every year he has played.
I would take Wheeler for the 3 in a NYC minute.
Andujar is also a ridiculous hitter and was a rookie. So, uh, no..
Andujar is a nightmare in the field, big liability. Sell now...
He's also a great hitter and only going to get better. So, nope.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Andujar, Frazier and Loaisiga isn't enough for Zack Wheeler?
The guy had half a great season. Before that, he was mediocre to awful going back through 2017, and missed two full seasons before that, and turns 29 next season.
You're nuts.
I would do that in a heartbeat. Dont know why the Yankees would though.
For one Andujar is probably the worst fielding 3B in all of baseball.
Then follow the with the injuries to Frazier last year where he basically missed the entire season with concussion syndrome and Loaisaga who has been injured every year he has played.
I would take Wheeler for the 3 in a NYC minute.
Andujar is also a ridiculous hitter and was a rookie. So, uh, no..
Andujar is a nightmare in the field, big liability. Sell now...
He's also a great hitter and only going to get better. So, nope.
and he said this 3 team scenario with Thor and the yankees is likely 100% BS... remember the winter meetings is a petri dish of bad info , agents , writers all have an agenda and will knowingly pass along stuff they know is not true ... tweeters/ writers do it knowing is bullshit so teh agents / gms will owe them a favor .. as long as they can still say they heard "X" .. they can write it ... fake news is rampant in sports as well :)
Sounds about right. I'd love to land Thor for a limited damage package but that only pre-supposed the Mets were hellbent on getting Realmuto and the Yankees had them over a barrel. In my heart of hearts, I already know how this is going to end. Yankees will miss out on Muchado and Harper. They will sign Happ. They'll trade Gray for prospects. And Hal and Cashman will say that they spent their money on Stanton last year and to ignore the whole luxury tax thing and say they are better with Paxton and a full year of Happ.
and he said this 3 team scenario with Thor and the yankees is likely 100% BS... remember the winter meetings is a petri dish of bad info , agents , writers all have an agenda and will knowingly pass along stuff they know is not true ... tweeters/ writers do it knowing is bullshit so teh agents / gms will owe them a favor .. as long as they can still say they heard "X" .. they can write it ... fake news is rampant in sports as well :)
Yup, that was my thought lastnight. I can understand "talks" between the two teams but I think a lot of it is for show, or simply not true. When it comes to the Yankees/Mets and the cross need for Pitching/young position talent I just can't see either side giving in to the other and rightfully so.
The guy had half a great season. Before that, he was mediocre to awful going back through 2017, and missed two full seasons before that, and turns 29 next season.
You're nuts.
I would do that in a heartbeat. Dont know why the Yankees would though.
For one Andujar is probably the worst fielding 3B in all of baseball.
Then follow the with the injuries to Frazier last year where he basically missed the entire season with concussion syndrome and Loaisaga who has been injured every year he has played.
I would take Wheeler for the 3 in a NYC minute.
Andujar is also a ridiculous hitter and was a rookie. So, uh, no..
Andujar is a nightmare in the field, big liability. Sell now...
He's also a great hitter and only going to get better. So, nope.
There is a reason Andujar is available.... Andujar available in trade talks - ( New Window )
And again, he's a tremendous hitter already in his rookie year. If they're going to trade him for an ace pitcher, fine. But for something less or just basically give him away? No thanks. Also, if they do trade him, who are you replacing him with?
Since they are on the hook for the whole contract, I wonder if the Yanks go after him. Worst case, he's done and they lose a million or two. Best case, he buys them time to get to Didi and then deal him when Didi gets back.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Andujar, Frazier and Loaisiga isn't enough for Zack Wheeler?
The guy had half a great season. Before that, he was mediocre to awful going back through 2017, and missed two full seasons before that, and turns 29 next season.
You're nuts.
I would do that in a heartbeat. Dont know why the Yankees would though.
For one Andujar is probably the worst fielding 3B in all of baseball.
Then follow the with the injuries to Frazier last year where he basically missed the entire season with concussion syndrome and Loaisaga who has been injured every year he has played.
I would take Wheeler for the 3 in a NYC minute.
Andujar is also a ridiculous hitter and was a rookie. So, uh, no..
Andujar is a nightmare in the field, big liability. Sell now...
He's also a great hitter and only going to get better. So, nope.
There is a reason Andujar is available.... Andujar available in trade talks - ( New Window )
And again, he's a tremendous hitter already in his rookie year. If they're going to trade him for an ace pitcher, fine. But for something less or just basically give him away? No thanks. Also, if they do trade him, who are you replacing him with?
Theoretically Machado, Syndergaard is an ace pitcher, and if the deal was Andujar for Syndergaard straight up the Mets would be getting robbed. Every GM in baseball would sell Andujar for Syndergaard and pop bottles all night afterward.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Andujar, Frazier and Loaisiga isn't enough for Zack Wheeler?
The guy had half a great season. Before that, he was mediocre to awful going back through 2017, and missed two full seasons before that, and turns 29 next season.
You're nuts.
I would do that in a heartbeat. Dont know why the Yankees would though.
For one Andujar is probably the worst fielding 3B in all of baseball.
Then follow the with the injuries to Frazier last year where he basically missed the entire season with concussion syndrome and Loaisaga who has been injured every year he has played.
I would take Wheeler for the 3 in a NYC minute.
Andujar is also a ridiculous hitter and was a rookie. So, uh, no..
Andujar is a nightmare in the field, big liability. Sell now...
He's also a great hitter and only going to get better. So, nope.
There is a reason Andujar is available.... Andujar available in trade talks - ( New Window )
And again, he's a tremendous hitter already in his rookie year. If they're going to trade him for an ace pitcher, fine. But for something less or just basically give him away? No thanks. Also, if they do trade him, who are you replacing him with?
Theoretically Machado, Syndergaard is an ace pitcher, and if the deal was Andujar for Syndergaard straight up the Mets would be getting robbed. Every GM in baseball would sell Andujar for Syndergaard and pop bottles all night afterward.
For an ace pitcher, fine. But not for Wheeler. And I have to see the Yankees sign Machado first, too. No guarantee that happens.
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Mets said very aggressive on Realmuto. Debate in room now about whether to give up coveted SS Rosario in package or top SP Syndergaard. Mets didnt want to open SS hole but that hasnt been ruled out. Plus, while NYY thing is less a hurdle now, 3 way deals are still complicated
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Andujar, Frazier and Loaisiga isn't enough for Zack Wheeler?
The guy had half a great season. Before that, he was mediocre to awful going back through 2017, and missed two full seasons before that, and turns 29 next season.
You're nuts.
I would do that in a heartbeat. Dont know why the Yankees would though.
For one Andujar is probably the worst fielding 3B in all of baseball.
Then follow the with the injuries to Frazier last year where he basically missed the entire season with concussion syndrome and Loaisaga who has been injured every year he has played.
I would take Wheeler for the 3 in a NYC minute.
Andujar is also a ridiculous hitter and was a rookie. So, uh, no..
Andujar is a nightmare in the field, big liability. Sell now...
He's also a great hitter and only going to get better. So, nope.
There is a reason Andujar is available.... Andujar available in trade talks - ( New Window )
And again, he's a tremendous hitter already in his rookie year. If they're going to trade him for an ace pitcher, fine. But for something less or just basically give him away? No thanks. Also, if they do trade him, who are you replacing him with?
The obvious replacement is Machado. I think this is what this is about. Trade Miggy, include him in a deal for a frontline starter and then sign Machado and open a 3-4 year window where NYY has a real chance at winning another championship or two, or three...
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Andujar, Frazier and Loaisiga isn't enough for Zack Wheeler?
The guy had half a great season. Before that, he was mediocre to awful going back through 2017, and missed two full seasons before that, and turns 29 next season.
You're nuts.
I would do that in a heartbeat. Dont know why the Yankees would though.
For one Andujar is probably the worst fielding 3B in all of baseball.
Then follow the with the injuries to Frazier last year where he basically missed the entire season with concussion syndrome and Loaisaga who has been injured every year he has played.
I would take Wheeler for the 3 in a NYC minute.
Andujar is also a ridiculous hitter and was a rookie. So, uh, no..
Andujar is a nightmare in the field, big liability. Sell now...
He's also a great hitter and only going to get better. So, nope.
There is a reason Andujar is available.... Andujar available in trade talks - ( New Window )
And again, he's a tremendous hitter already in his rookie year. If they're going to trade him for an ace pitcher, fine. But for something less or just basically give him away? No thanks. Also, if they do trade him, who are you replacing him with?
You replace him by signing Machado, who is also a better player.
Man, I love Andujar but man, some of you guys are treating him like hes the next coming of Miguel Cabrera.
Throw out all the overated analytics and look at the guy as a pitcher.
Can maintain 98 mph fastball through 110 ppitches
Has the hardest slider in baseball--maybe the hardest all-time
Rises to the occasion in big games. He is not a Kershaw who is great in regular season but not so much in postseason. Thor is at his best in big games. To be honest, I would definitely choose Thor over Degrom to start a must-win game. And I love Degrom.
He is only going to get better because he is still learning how to pitch.
The only negatives are he can't hold runners on and he has been injury prone. But the injuries are all unrelated and more of the freak nature.
but hopefully that turns out to not be the case. Obviously the only thing of value he's given up so far is Kelenic. I wouldn't have done it but it's not the end of the world.
Trading Rosario may not be the end of the world either but the pattern is not conducive to long term success. Acquiring veterans in their respective primes at the top of their positions is certainly important, but that's only half the equation. Need a strong base of young talent developed internally. Rosario is 23 years old and can easily be a plus hitter / plus defender at a premium position as soon as right now. I wouldn't give that up for a guy 2 years from FA.
The Sox gave up the #2 overall & #32 overall prospects in the game as well as a guy rated organizationally 8th and 28th at the time. The equivalent deal would almost be term for term Andujar (not ranked as a prospect anymore, but rookie of the year runner up), Florial - #45 ranked prospect, and maybe Loiasiga - #66 ranked & someone like a Ryder Green or other lower end 4th piece with upside. This upgrades the back end of the deal the Sox made as Loaisiga is light years better than the two throw ins in the Sale trade to make up for the slightly lower ranked Florial than Kopech. However you divvy up those four players between the Mets and the Marlins, that would be what a fair offer from the Yankees would be to receive Syndergaard.
A proven major league hitter is worth more than the #2 prospect. You won't get Andjuar and Florial.
Or agents using GMs they are about to deal with to try to pry loose movement on someone else in their stable.
Who is the agent for Realmuto?
also a dodger contact wanted to be me they get Bryce - I said no bet - FYI
Thanks Capone. I hope its the case and Thor isnt traded to the Yankees for a crappy package.
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Thanks Capone. I hope its the case and Thor isnt traded to the Yankees for a crappy package.
Or the Yankees overpay for an NL pitcher likely to struggle in the AL East.
I don't think Andujar, Frazier and Loaisaga is enough to get back Wheeler and I'm a Yankee fan...
Overall he was 3-0 with 17K in 17 innings in interleague last year. Other than that, yeah. NL pitcher he'd totally suck.
I don't think Andujar, Frazier and Loaisaga is enough to get back Wheeler and I'm a Yankee fan...
The Yankees are not getting Noah Syndergaard, they don't have the capital to afford him without including Torres and that's not going to happen. Heck, I don't think Andujar, Frazier and Loaisaga is enough to get back Wheeler and I'm a Yankee fan... Reformatted
You're nuts.
Wheeler began 2018 in the minors. He had a ridiculous 3.5 months after a slow start, but I'd need to see more before ponying up a ton in terms of high end prospects.
I'd acquire him, but I don't think that post about not being enough is accurate.
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and he said this 3 team scenario with Thor and the yankees is likely 100% BS... remember the winter meetings is a petri dish of bad info , agents , writers all have an agenda and will knowingly pass along stuff they know is not true ... tweeters/ writers do it knowing is bullshit so teh agents / gms will owe them a favor .. as long as they can still say they heard "X" .. they can write it ... fake news is rampant in sports as well :)
Thanks Capone. I hope its the case and Thor isnt traded to the Yankees for a crappy package.
Or the Yankees overpay for an NL pitcher likely to struggle in the AL East.
Lol, right. The scary AL East. Its amazing any pitcher succeeds pitching to any of those teams. Im willing to bet NS would do just fine.
But then again, its just as easy to say that any of your player wouldnt hit nearly as well with the top flight starting pitchers in the NL East.
You're nuts.
I would do that in a heartbeat. Dont know why the Yankees would though.
I'm always leery of pitchers moving from the NL to the AL.
An NL pitcher with not so great numbers against AL lineups? Gee, what a shock.
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The guy had half a great season. Before that, he was mediocre to awful going back through 2017, and missed two full seasons before that, and turns 29 next season.
You're nuts.
I would do that in a heartbeat. Dont know why the Yankees would though.
For one Andujar is probably the worst fielding 3B in all of baseball.
Then follow the with the injuries to Frazier last year where he basically missed the entire season with concussion syndrome and Loaisaga who has been injured every year he has played.
I would take Wheeler for the 3 in a NYC minute.
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The guy had half a great season. Before that, he was mediocre to awful going back through 2017, and missed two full seasons before that, and turns 29 next season.
You're nuts.
I would do that in a heartbeat. Dont know why the Yankees would though.
For one Andujar is probably the worst fielding 3B in all of baseball.
Then follow the with the injuries to Frazier last year where he basically missed the entire season with concussion syndrome and Loaisaga who has been injured every year he has played.
I would take Wheeler for the 3 in a NYC minute.
That would be a really bad trade. One year of control on Wheeler.
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Syndergaard vs AL teams: 12 games, 3.96 ERA, 1.257 WHIP.
I'm always leery of pitchers moving from the NL to the AL.
An NL pitcher with not so great numbers against AL lineups? Gee, what a shock.
With that small sample size, one or two games can skew the numbers. Looked pretty good against AL lineups last season. Held the Yanks to 1 run.
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The guy had half a great season. Before that, he was mediocre to awful going back through 2017, and missed two full seasons before that, and turns 29 next season.
You're nuts.
I would do that in a heartbeat. Dont know why the Yankees would though.
For one Andujar is probably the worst fielding 3B in all of baseball.
Then follow the with the injuries to Frazier last year where he basically missed the entire season with concussion syndrome and Loaisaga who has been injured every year he has played.
I would take Wheeler for the 3 in a NYC minute.
That would be a really bad trade. One year of control on Wheeler.
The premise is the Yankees would resign him. But I get your point.
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The guy had half a great season. Before that, he was mediocre to awful going back through 2017, and missed two full seasons before that, and turns 29 next season.
You're nuts.
I would do that in a heartbeat. Dont know why the Yankees would though.
For one Andujar is probably the worst fielding 3B in all of baseball.
Then follow the with the injuries to Frazier last year where he basically missed the entire season with concussion syndrome and Loaisaga who has been injured every year he has played.
I would take Wheeler for the 3 in a NYC minute.
Andujar is also a ridiculous hitter and was a rookie. So, uh, no..
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The guy had half a great season. Before that, he was mediocre to awful going back through 2017, and missed two full seasons before that, and turns 29 next season.
You're nuts.
I would do that in a heartbeat. Dont know why the Yankees would though.
For one Andujar is probably the worst fielding 3B in all of baseball.
Then follow the with the injuries to Frazier last year where he basically missed the entire season with concussion syndrome and Loaisaga who has been injured every year he has played.
I would take Wheeler for the 3 in a NYC minute.
Andujar is also a ridiculous hitter and was a rookie. So, uh, no..
Andujar is a nightmare in the field, big liability. Sell now...
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The guy had half a great season. Before that, he was mediocre to awful going back through 2017, and missed two full seasons before that, and turns 29 next season.
You're nuts.
I would do that in a heartbeat. Dont know why the Yankees would though.
For one Andujar is probably the worst fielding 3B in all of baseball.
Then follow the with the injuries to Frazier last year where he basically missed the entire season with concussion syndrome and Loaisaga who has been injured every year he has played.
I would take Wheeler for the 3 in a NYC minute.
Andujar is also a ridiculous hitter and was a rookie. So, uh, no..
Andujar is a nightmare in the field, big liability. Sell now...
He's also a great hitter and only going to get better. So, nope.
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The guy had half a great season. Before that, he was mediocre to awful going back through 2017, and missed two full seasons before that, and turns 29 next season.
You're nuts.
I would do that in a heartbeat. Dont know why the Yankees would though.
For one Andujar is probably the worst fielding 3B in all of baseball.
Then follow the with the injuries to Frazier last year where he basically missed the entire season with concussion syndrome and Loaisaga who has been injured every year he has played.
I would take Wheeler for the 3 in a NYC minute.
Andujar is also a ridiculous hitter and was a rookie. So, uh, no..
Andujar is a nightmare in the field, big liability. Sell now...
He's also a great hitter and only going to get better. So, nope.
There is a reason Andujar is available....
Andujar available in trade talks - ( New Window )
Sounds about right. I'd love to land Thor for a limited damage package but that only pre-supposed the Mets were hellbent on getting Realmuto and the Yankees had them over a barrel. In my heart of hearts, I already know how this is going to end. Yankees will miss out on Muchado and Harper. They will sign Happ. They'll trade Gray for prospects. And Hal and Cashman will say that they spent their money on Stanton last year and to ignore the whole luxury tax thing and say they are better with Paxton and a full year of Happ.
Yup, that was my thought lastnight. I can understand "talks" between the two teams but I think a lot of it is for show, or simply not true. When it comes to the Yankees/Mets and the cross need for Pitching/young position talent I just can't see either side giving in to the other and rightfully so.
Seems like that was a disaster.
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The guy had half a great season. Before that, he was mediocre to awful going back through 2017, and missed two full seasons before that, and turns 29 next season.
You're nuts.
I would do that in a heartbeat. Dont know why the Yankees would though.
For one Andujar is probably the worst fielding 3B in all of baseball.
Then follow the with the injuries to Frazier last year where he basically missed the entire season with concussion syndrome and Loaisaga who has been injured every year he has played.
I would take Wheeler for the 3 in a NYC minute.
Andujar is also a ridiculous hitter and was a rookie. So, uh, no..
Andujar is a nightmare in the field, big liability. Sell now...
He's also a great hitter and only going to get better. So, nope.
There is a reason Andujar is available.... Andujar available in trade talks - ( New Window )
And again, he's a tremendous hitter already in his rookie year. If they're going to trade him for an ace pitcher, fine. But for something less or just basically give him away? No thanks. Also, if they do trade him, who are you replacing him with?
Seems like that was a disaster.
Since they are on the hook for the whole contract, I wonder if the Yanks go after him. Worst case, he's done and they lose a million or two. Best case, he buys them time to get to Didi and then deal him when Didi gets back.
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The guy had half a great season. Before that, he was mediocre to awful going back through 2017, and missed two full seasons before that, and turns 29 next season.
You're nuts.
I would do that in a heartbeat. Dont know why the Yankees would though.
For one Andujar is probably the worst fielding 3B in all of baseball.
Then follow the with the injuries to Frazier last year where he basically missed the entire season with concussion syndrome and Loaisaga who has been injured every year he has played.
I would take Wheeler for the 3 in a NYC minute.
Andujar is also a ridiculous hitter and was a rookie. So, uh, no..
Andujar is a nightmare in the field, big liability. Sell now...
He's also a great hitter and only going to get better. So, nope.
There is a reason Andujar is available.... Andujar available in trade talks - ( New Window )
And again, he's a tremendous hitter already in his rookie year. If they're going to trade him for an ace pitcher, fine. But for something less or just basically give him away? No thanks. Also, if they do trade him, who are you replacing him with?
Theoretically Machado, Syndergaard is an ace pitcher, and if the deal was Andujar for Syndergaard straight up the Mets would be getting robbed. Every GM in baseball would sell Andujar for Syndergaard and pop bottles all night afterward.
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The guy had half a great season. Before that, he was mediocre to awful going back through 2017, and missed two full seasons before that, and turns 29 next season.
You're nuts.
I would do that in a heartbeat. Dont know why the Yankees would though.
For one Andujar is probably the worst fielding 3B in all of baseball.
Then follow the with the injuries to Frazier last year where he basically missed the entire season with concussion syndrome and Loaisaga who has been injured every year he has played.
I would take Wheeler for the 3 in a NYC minute.
Andujar is also a ridiculous hitter and was a rookie. So, uh, no..
Andujar is a nightmare in the field, big liability. Sell now...
He's also a great hitter and only going to get better. So, nope.
There is a reason Andujar is available.... Andujar available in trade talks - ( New Window )
And again, he's a tremendous hitter already in his rookie year. If they're going to trade him for an ace pitcher, fine. But for something less or just basically give him away? No thanks. Also, if they do trade him, who are you replacing him with?
Theoretically Machado, Syndergaard is an ace pitcher, and if the deal was Andujar for Syndergaard straight up the Mets would be getting robbed. Every GM in baseball would sell Andujar for Syndergaard and pop bottles all night afterward.
For an ace pitcher, fine. But not for Wheeler. And I have to see the Yankees sign Machado first, too. No guarantee that happens.
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Mets said very aggressive on Realmuto. Debate in room now about whether to give up coveted SS Rosario in package or top SP Syndergaard. Mets didnt want to open SS hole but that hasnt been ruled out. Plus, while NYY thing is less a hurdle now, 3 way deals are still complicated
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The guy had half a great season. Before that, he was mediocre to awful going back through 2017, and missed two full seasons before that, and turns 29 next season.
You're nuts.
I would do that in a heartbeat. Dont know why the Yankees would though.
For one Andujar is probably the worst fielding 3B in all of baseball.
Then follow the with the injuries to Frazier last year where he basically missed the entire season with concussion syndrome and Loaisaga who has been injured every year he has played.
I would take Wheeler for the 3 in a NYC minute.
Andujar is also a ridiculous hitter and was a rookie. So, uh, no..
Andujar is a nightmare in the field, big liability. Sell now...
He's also a great hitter and only going to get better. So, nope.
There is a reason Andujar is available.... Andujar available in trade talks - ( New Window )
And again, he's a tremendous hitter already in his rookie year. If they're going to trade him for an ace pitcher, fine. But for something less or just basically give him away? No thanks. Also, if they do trade him, who are you replacing him with?
The obvious replacement is Machado. I think this is what this is about. Trade Miggy, include him in a deal for a frontline starter and then sign Machado and open a 3-4 year window where NYY has a real chance at winning another championship or two, or three...
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The guy had half a great season. Before that, he was mediocre to awful going back through 2017, and missed two full seasons before that, and turns 29 next season.
You're nuts.
I would do that in a heartbeat. Dont know why the Yankees would though.
For one Andujar is probably the worst fielding 3B in all of baseball.
Then follow the with the injuries to Frazier last year where he basically missed the entire season with concussion syndrome and Loaisaga who has been injured every year he has played.
I would take Wheeler for the 3 in a NYC minute.
Andujar is also a ridiculous hitter and was a rookie. So, uh, no..
Andujar is a nightmare in the field, big liability. Sell now...
He's also a great hitter and only going to get better. So, nope.
There is a reason Andujar is available.... Andujar available in trade talks - ( New Window )
And again, he's a tremendous hitter already in his rookie year. If they're going to trade him for an ace pitcher, fine. But for something less or just basically give him away? No thanks. Also, if they do trade him, who are you replacing him with?
You replace him by signing Machado, who is also a better player.
Man, I love Andujar but man, some of you guys are treating him like hes the next coming of Miguel Cabrera.
A #Marlins official described #Mets as extremely aggressive on Realmuto
Andy Martino
Mets are reluctant to move Rosario but I dont think as reluctant as they say publicly. Boy oh boy do they want Realmuto
Can maintain 98 mph fastball through 110 ppitches
Has the hardest slider in baseball--maybe the hardest all-time
Rises to the occasion in big games. He is not a Kershaw who is great in regular season but not so much in postseason. Thor is at his best in big games. To be honest, I would definitely choose Thor over Degrom to start a must-win game. And I love Degrom.
He is only going to get better because he is still learning how to pitch.
The only negatives are he can't hold runners on and he has been injury prone. But the injuries are all unrelated and more of the freak nature.
But if it's Yanks vs Sox in a game 7, my money is on Thor.
Maybe before last season, but after the way he pitched last year I think the pitchers I'd select over deGrom in a must-win game is limited to 1 or 2.
And Thor is not one of them.
Rosario final 2 months of the season OPS+ over 100 5 homers, 10 doubles 2 triples with 15 steals.
Trading Rosario may not be the end of the world either but the pattern is not conducive to long term success. Acquiring veterans in their respective primes at the top of their positions is certainly important, but that's only half the equation. Need a strong base of young talent developed internally. Rosario is 23 years old and can easily be a plus hitter / plus defender at a premium position as soon as right now. I wouldn't give that up for a guy 2 years from FA.