What would you give up for Carr?

Not a damn thing.

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for Carr

In comment 14214182 Capt. Don said:

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I think the Raiders keep him. He hasnt thrown an interception since week 5. He has absolutely no running game, a leaky O-line that is worse than ours at this point and he is throwing to household names like Seth Roberts, Marcell Ateman and a washed up 33 year old Jordy Nelson. Frankly, it is a much worse situation than Eli has here and he has performed pretty well considering.

I agree. Gruden's track record is replete with veteran QBs leading his teams. He has never been comfortable with rookie QBs. So I don't expect that to change by investing a high pick in one. And dealing with those potential growing pains, especially with needs at WR, OL, RB - essentially the entire offensive corp, would be utter torture for Gruden.

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In comment 14214163 Diver_Down said:

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and allow him to lead the Giants to the promised land. With an actual competent GM and the tutelage of Shurmur, Eli will harness the talent of our offensive weapons. Wait for the Raiders to release Carr, and he can sign to be Eli's back-up like his brother did. Kyle can go to the PS. No one is going to steal his noodle arm.

Agree, at least extend him 5+ years..there's no qb better than him to replace him as we can see.

I haven't watched an entire Raiders game because my time is not yet that worthless, but Jared Cook is currently their best receiver. Their best RB is either Doug Martin or Jalen Richard -- it's scary that a legitimate debate actually exists there. He plays in a relatively difficult division (at least, compared to ours), on a team that's historically been horribly managed and experiencing a lot of "what the hell are we doing right now?" turmoil.

I've seen excuses given to QBs whose cupboards are stocked a hell of lot more than Carr's, that's for damn sure.

singled him out in his twitter feed for his play over the last 6-7 weeks.

Can't link now, but you might want to check it out. MVP candidate just a couple years back who is rounding into form following a massive transformation in the team.

I'm not saying he's the guy, but a lot of people are easily dismissing him. I think that stats need to be taken in context.

Keep Eli and add the future QB through the draft, if the Giants can get Foles as a free agent I am all for that. He would not cost very much and he is a winner. He would fit into this culture perfect.

a really talented guy. It seems to have become popular to say he sucks here, but he definitely does not. Gruden has made a mess of the Raiders and I don’t think he will be able to turn it around. His nice guy persona on MNF seems really fake now. I can’t figure out exactly what Oakland is doing to be honest. Nonetheless, I am not sure I would give up a lot for Carr as he is destined to be cut.

Let him be the Raiders problem. it takes one less team out of the QB Hunt if Herbert or Haskins come out in this year's draft.

protection or team around him for several seasons.

He may need to get his confidence back, but he'd be worth our #1 imo...and they'd likely expect and demand more for him.

And his future salary is a plus unless you hit on a franchise QB who'd come cheaper for several years. But, again imo, it's more likely that a team could miss on a pick than miss on Carr.

In comment 14214316 The_Boss said:

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Don’t want him. I’m hopeful the next NYG QB is one of Tua, Fromm, or Trevor Lawrence. But to do so, I know the NYG would have to sell off tons of draft capital, including multiple 1’s.

I’m with you Boss. If we’re going to draft a quarterback we’re better off making a move to get our guy in 2920. I like the three you mentioned better then anyone in the 2919 class. I doubt we’ll be able to get Tua without paying a kings ransom but Fromm is a guy I really like.

In comment 14215500 Fritz said:

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In comment 14214316 The_Boss said: Quote: Don’t want him. I’m hopeful the next NYG QB is one of Tua, Fromm, or Trevor Lawrence. But to do so, I know the NYG would have to sell off tons of draft capital, including multiple 1’s. I’m with you Boss. If we’re going to draft a quarterback we’re better off making a move to get our guy in 2920. I like the three you mentioned better then anyone in the 2919 class. I doubt we’ll be able to get Tua without paying a kings ransom but Fromm is a guy I really like.

I meant 2019 and 2020, Eli is durab,e but he’s not going to last that long