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Barkleyís big plays in context of past 28 NFL seasons

BSIMatt : 12/12/2018 8:03 am
Barkley has 8 plays over 40 yards this season.

In the past 28 years only 2 running backs have ever had more.

Chris Johnson had 10 in 2009, the year he broke Faulks single season total yardage record and won nfl offensive player of the year.

Barry Sanders had 12 in 1997, the year he won NFL mvp.

3 other backs have matched Barkleyís 8 plays of 40 plus yards in the last 28 years.

Adrian Peterson in 2012 when he won NFL MVP.
Ladian Tomlinson in 2006 when he won NFL MVP.
Tiki Barber in 2005 when he came close to matching Faulks single season total yardage record, and was named first team all pro.

The common denominator among all the backs listed above is that for each, it was their finest NFL season. This is Barkleyís rookie season and he still has 3 games left.
This is amazing stuff...  
Chris684 : 12/12/2018 8:32 am : link
Behind a terrible OL for much of the year. Used very, very conservatively (to a fault) by Shurmur. And sat nearly the entire 2nd half last week.
All the other running backs above were on playoff teams  
BSIMatt : 12/12/2018 9:11 am : link
Except Chris Johnson whose Titans missed the playoffs at 8-8, but finished with 8 wins in their final 10 games and were coming off a 2008 season where they posted the nflís top record at 13-3.
That is a Wow stat!  
Daniel in Kentucky : 12/12/2018 9:12 am : link
Imagine once the offensive line is solidified after another off-season of free agency and draft picks.

Barkley is a franchise changer and I thought he would be great, but apparently he is awesome.

great stuff  
Jints in Carolina : 12/12/2018 9:12 am : link
I am putting this on Facebook.
I donít think Shurmur used Barkley too conservatively - just erratic ¬†
Ivan15 : 12/12/2018 9:16 am : link
Barkley was learning. Lots of big runs early but lots of negative yards too. Shurmur kept him from getting beat up and now coming on strong. Pushed through the rookie wall.

There will always be players who never go beyond the promise of their rookie year. I hope that isnít Barkley.
Thanks for sharing...  
Capt. Don : 12/12/2018 9:26 am : link
good post.
Man Chris Johnson  
mattyblue : 12/12/2018 9:27 am : link
went from star to dud in the blink of an eye.
If You Watch the All-22  
Capt. Don : 12/12/2018 9:28 am : link
There are 2-3 plays per game wherein if we get one more block or simply hold one more block for another instant - he is gone. He is that close on so many plays.

I really think he will break the single game mark at some point. If he stays healthy and the Oline continues to improve, I think it is only a matter of time.
Rookie season  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 12/12/2018 9:30 am : link
And was not exactly a Demarco Murray workhorse this year.
RE: Man Chris Johnson  
bradshaw44 : 12/12/2018 9:31 am : link
In comment 14215599 mattyblue said:
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went from star to dud in the blink of an eye.


He was such an anomaly. He peaked and faded so fast. Then became a JAG for a handful of teams. Very strange.
The best part about it is  
BestFeature : 12/12/2018 9:41 am : link
that after he gained some experience and the line improved he's not boom or bust anymore like people were criticizing him for it. I remember Fournette was said to be better because he's more consistent. He hasn't cracked 4 YAC in either year. He may get yardage consistently but he has zero big play threat. Now Barkley can gain yardage consistently and is a HUGE big play threat. We got the best of both worlds.
RE: RE: Man Chris Johnson  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 12/12/2018 10:15 am : link
In comment 14215609 bradshaw44 said:
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In comment 14215599 mattyblue said:


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went from star to dud in the blink of an eye.



He was such an anomaly. He peaked and faded so fast. Then became a JAG for a handful of teams. Very strange.

He was a very one dimensional back, I think DCs eventually figured him out and schemed against him.
I actually think the most impressive part of this stat  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 12/12/2018 11:01 am : link
aside from Barkley being a rookie is that he will have accomplished this with WAY LESS carries than any of the other 5 backs mentioned. Saquon is going to have less than 300 carries this season. Barry Sanders had the least amount of carries of the other 5 guys at 335(!).


Cool stat OP.
What's not impressive is thats its NOT TRUE  
WideRight : 12/12/2018 11:11 am : link

NFL stats lists him as having 6 rushes over 40 yards.....


NFL stats - ( New Window )
He has 2 receptions over 40 yards  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 12/12/2018 11:13 am : link
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RE: I actually think the most impressive part of this stat  
BSIMatt : 12/12/2018 11:18 am : link
In comment 14215812 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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aside from Barkley being a rookie is that he will have accomplished this with WAY LESS carries than any of the other 5 backs mentioned. Saquon is going to have less than 300 carries this season. Barry Sanders had the least amount of carries of the other 5 guys at 335(!).


Cool stat OP.


Absolutely, I would say that and their NFL experience..
Tiki, 30 years old/9th season had 411 touches.
Johnson at 24 years old/2nd season had 408.
Tomlinson 27 years old/6th season had 404.
Peterson 27 years old/6th season had 388.

Sanders, 29 years old/9th season had 368 touches.


Barkley, in his rookie year, at just 21 years of age has only 287 touches.
RE: What's not impressive is thats its NOT TRUE  
BSIMatt : 12/12/2018 11:19 am : link
In comment 14215832 WideRight said:
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NFL stats lists him as having 6 rushes over 40 yards.....
NFL stats - ( New Window )


8 plays over 40 yards, 6 rushing, 2 receiving. His 6 rushing is still very impressive and also very rare.
Chris Johnson was never the same  
Zeke's Alibi : 12/12/2018 11:21 am : link
player after the Steelers broke his back with that dirty tackle.
Sadly  
mrvax : 12/12/2018 11:33 am : link
I never saw Chris Johnson play in his prime.
fantastic stat  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 12/12/2018 11:40 am : link
a list is only as impressive as the names on it, and the names on this list say it all.

The fact that he's combined this big-play skill with 0 fumbles is just special.

Pretty impressive that Tiki is on this list since he was probably the slowest/least explosive player on that list during the seasons they accomplished these big plays.
And that is why he was #2 overall  
Leg of Theismann : 12/12/2018 11:42 am : link
He is not just a RB, he is a once in a generation player. DG did not get this one wrong by any stretch of the imagination. He is going to be the greatest RB and perhaps most explosive/dynamic offensive player in NFL history. It is an "offensive" league by far now. You don't pass up on that opportunity just to take Sam Darnold or Josh Allen, that's ludicrous. There will be other "franchise" QBs along the way over the next 10 years, there will not be another Saquon Barkley.
Just throwing in this stat from nfl.com  
BSIMatt : 12/12/2018 12:01 pm : link
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One notable stat: Barkley is putting up the second-most scrimmage yards per game (134.8) by any rookie since the 1970 NFL merger, per NFL Research.


Only Dickerson had a stronger pace, and it's not over yet.
2019 Offensive Pro Bowlers: Giants' Saquon Barkley a no-brainer - ( New Window )
RE: And that is why he was #2 overall  
santacruzom : 12/12/2018 12:28 pm : link
In comment 14215891 Leg of Theismann said:
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He is not just a RB, he is a once in a generation player. DG did not get this one wrong by any stretch of the imagination. He is going to be the greatest RB and perhaps most explosive/dynamic offensive player in NFL history. It is an "offensive" league by far now. You don't pass up on that opportunity just to take Sam Darnold or Josh Allen, that's ludicrous. There will be other "franchise" QBs along the way over the next 10 years, there will not be another Saquon Barkley.


Bill Simmons recently said it best: 49 times out of 50, you take the regarded QB prospect over the regarded RB prospect. Only a guy like Barkley represents the one time you don't.
RE: RE: And that is why he was #2 overall  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/12/2018 12:31 pm : link
In comment 14215945 santacruzom said:
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He is going to be the greatest RB and perhaps most explosive/dynamic offensive player in NFL history.


These types of comments are so unnecessary and can be so divisive.
He's no Ezekiel Elliot!  
BlueLou'sBack : 12/12/2018 1:10 pm : link
- Skip Bayless, before the draft.
RE: RE: RE: And that is why he was #2 overall  
djm : 12/12/2018 1:24 pm : link
In comment 14215947 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 14215945 santacruzom said:


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He is going to be the greatest RB and perhaps most explosive/dynamic offensive player in NFL history.



These types of comments are so unnecessary and can be so divisive.


Lol why? Whatís wrong with predicting anything like that? Barkley looks as good as any rookie rb ever. Plus itís just a prediction...
What separates him from the RBs in the OP  
RobCarpenter : 12/12/2018 1:34 pm : link
Is his skill as a receiver. Consider this past game alone:

Caught one pass that was on his back hip
Caught one pass with one hand

And yes, he dropped a ball on one route - and he was furious at himself about it.

Still NOT TRUE  
WideRight : 12/12/2018 1:54 pm : link
If you include receptions there are many receivers....

Took me two seconds to find Randy Moss, 2007. Do you want to start to look at Jerry Rice's career?

I'm fine with the premise, but the idea of making up stats to fit your premis should not be condoned
NFL stats - ( New Window )
RE: Still NOT TRUE  
BSIMatt : 12/12/2018 2:03 pm : link
In comment 14216113 WideRight said:
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If you include receptions there are many receivers....

Took me two seconds to find Randy Moss, 2007. Do you want to start to look at Jerry Rice's career?

I'm fine with the premise, but the idea of making up stats to fit your premis should not be condoned NFL stats - ( New Window )


Only trying to help you here...from the original post:

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In the past 28 years only 2 running backs have ever had more.


RE: Still NOT TRUE  
BlueLou'sBack : 12/12/2018 2:06 pm : link
In comment 14216113 WideRight said:
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If you include receptions there are many receivers....

Took me two seconds to find Randy Moss, 2007. Do you want to start to look at Jerry Rice's career?

I'm fine with the premise, but the idea of making up stats to fit your premis should not be condoned NFL stats - ( New Window )


You are doubling down on your stance instead of issuing a " my bad"?

Read the OP again, because apparently you have the reading comprehension of a 5 year old.

The OP clearly states "touches among RBs."

What's made up about that?

Douchenozzle.
Unlike Matt,  
BlueLou'sBack : 12/12/2018 2:08 pm : link
I AM NOT trying to help you. Help yourself by reading more carefully before you post shit.
RE: Still NOT TRUE  
arcarsenal : 12/12/2018 2:09 pm : link
In comment 14216113 WideRight said:
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If you include receptions there are many receivers....

Took me two seconds to find Randy Moss, 2007. Do you want to start to look at Jerry Rice's career?

I'm fine with the premise, but the idea of making up stats to fit your premis should not be condoned NFL stats - ( New Window )


Try taking a deep breath and reading the actual parameters the OP is discussing. You're posting like a chicken without a head right now.
lol  
Britt in VA : 12/12/2018 2:11 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: And that is why he was #2 overall  
BestFeature : 12/12/2018 2:12 pm : link
In comment 14215947 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 14215945 santacruzom said:


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He is going to be the greatest RB and perhaps most explosive/dynamic offensive player in NFL history.



These types of comments are so unnecessary and can be so divisive.


Who would it divide? Even if it's not true, why would it offend any actual Giants fan?
RE: RE: RE: RE: And that is why he was #2 overall  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/12/2018 2:14 pm : link
In comment 14216055 djm said:
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In comment 14215947 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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In comment 14215945 santacruzom said:


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He is going to be the greatest RB and perhaps most explosive/dynamic offensive player in NFL history.



These types of comments are so unnecessary and can be so divisive.



Lol why? Whatís wrong with predicting anything like that? Barkley looks as good as any rookie rb ever. Plus itís just a prediction...


It's not a prediction, it's a definitive statement. A prediction would start with "I think he's __" Just a lot of the wild, off the wall stuff that gets thrown around here and then users wonder why people respond with eyerolls and sarcastic comments and namecalling.
the thread very clearly talks about  
UConn4523 : 12/12/2018 2:17 pm : link
"plays" of over 40 yards by running backs. No idea what the issue is here.
RE: He's no Ezekiel Elliot!  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 12/12/2018 4:15 pm : link
In comment 14216027 BlueLou'sBack said:
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- Skip Bayless, before the draft.


Barkley has 8 plays of 40+ yds this season (287 touches)
Elliot has 6 plays of 40+ yds in his career (978 touches)

Elliot is a great player but Barkley's big play ability is something else.
RE: RE: RE: And that is why he was #2 overall  
santacruzom : 12/12/2018 5:39 pm : link
In comment 14215947 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 14215945 santacruzom said:


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He is going to be the greatest RB and perhaps most explosive/dynamic offensive player in NFL history.



These types of comments are so unnecessary and can be so divisive.


Wait, what?? I didn't say that!
Itís not just the long plays, itís the long touchdowns ¬†
BSIMatt : 12/12/2018 5:48 pm : link
Already 5 tds of 50+ yards, most by any rookie since Randy Moss in 98(also one of the all time great rookie seasons), and also, unsurprisingly more than Elliot has in his entire NFL career.
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