A buddy of mine is his first cousin. He said he's still undecided about coming out as of Thanksgiving weekend. We'll see but I don't want him at 10. I'd rather have White or Little
May see a lot of QBs picked in the first round but not 3 or 4 in top Â
If the Giants pick 10-15, there may be a QB they like, but more likely that they pick o-line or edge rusher.
This. I don't think they are going to force the QB pick. If they believe in a 2020 guy I think they will pick OL or ER and then trade the farm as they did for Eli, in 2020.
Dwayne Haskins is gonna be a high pick. NFL teams love him and rightfully so. He's a very very good QB. He had over 4500 passing yards with 47 TDs and only 8 INTs while completing 70% of his passes. Also had 150 rushing yards and 4 rushing TDs. He had better numbers then any QB in college football.
You'll see him rise during the draft process as the media catches up on what NFL teams are thinking.
A buddy of mine is his first cousin. He said he's still undecided about coming out as of Thanksgiving weekend. We'll see but I don't want him at 10. I'd rather have White or Little
I can’t understand why he or any other QB in his position would even think of returning to school. If you are all but certainly going in the first round, you have nowhere to go but down. He could have a bad season next year and end up a 4th round pick. I understand wanting to win and all that but I just don’t see how it makes sense. It’s also why I don’t blame Grier for not playing the bowl game. You are on the cusp of becoming rich and achieving a lifelong dream. Athletes still can’t have contacts with agents in college? I kind of think they should be able to, at least someone who can put it to you in dollars and cents. The schools don’t care about them. It’s the reason I struggle with college sports. The schools, coaches, TV stations etc.. all making a killer profit and the kids get very little.
Assuming all the elite edge rush prospects are gone Â
Think about the Great QBs of the past 25 years. Brady is a fluke because Hanson was ahead of him.
This is horrible logic. You scout the player. Has nothing to do with his team. Basically like saying you wouldn't draft Saquon, because all Penn State RBs suck.
Not only from McShay, but other draft "experts" as well. Giants need a QB, so just slot any QB in where they are scheduled to pick. I don't think DG & Co are going to reach for a QB.
Why do you say barf about Haskins? What don't you like about him?
Plays with so much more elite talent than the teams he faced. Even against Michigan they picked on their worst defender all game. He’s not as mobile as people think. Urbs QBs ALWAYS put up insane stats. And yet only one has had any success in the NFL and that’s Alex Smith.
His deep ball isn’t the most impressive and tends to lock on o e WR. He has by far the biggest bust ability out of any QB coming out. His yardage is inflated cause his WRs get in space and are just faster than all the other players on the field.
Not only from McShay, but other draft "experts" as well. Giants need a QB, so just slot any QB in where they are scheduled to pick. I don't think DG & Co are going to reach for a QB.
What makes Haskins “any Qb” the kid was a hiesman for finalists.
The Giants will Be lucky if he is there
Greedy Williams is taken and no great OT available, I think 10 is a great spot for the FS from Alabama (Thompson).
If Greedy and all elite edge rushers are gone, that will leave Jonah Williams sitting there for us. Taking care of the RT spot is far more important than FS. Both need addressing, but the trenches will be prioritized.
He would definitely have to sit on the bench for a year behind Eli. I would draft him at that spot. He's as good a prospect as any of the 4 players drafted in the top 10 picks this past year.
A buddy of mine is his first cousin. He said he's still undecided about coming out as of Thanksgiving weekend. We'll see but I don't want him at 10. I'd rather have White or Little
Where is Haskins from? I know he went to private school in Potomac, MD.
problem with winning is the picks look less and less exciting at 10 I was so looking forward of grabbing Bosa with a top 3 pick oh well. However saying that no thanks to Haskins but with how this QB class is shaping up I think you could get a decent guy in the 2nd round if you want to bring a guy to compete. KL just does not have a NFL arm and he will never be anything more then a career backup.
He made the Buckeye faithful quickly the Barrett and his 35TD passes the prior year.
I watch a ton of OSU games. They are loaded with pro prospects on both sides. I actually think they are as talented as Bama up and down their roster.
But for Haskins, I can't recall a QB having a more comfortable pocket and open receivers to throw to than Haskins this year. It was like 7 on 7 drills most games for OSU because the B1G was down this year.
While I certainly give him credit for making plays with his mobility, and showing decent accuracy, I think his production is highly skewed by his circumstances.
I wouldn't touch him in round one. I think there is definite upside, but still a real project. So if we draft him at #10, it would be a definite remote smasher.
picks. There's plenty of depth players in this year's draft and we need to upgrade that on our team. Cap just went up around $10M, make a few cuts, O.V. Jenkins, and all of our team will be a complete transition into youth and aggresiveness.
RE: The ONLY issue I would have with Haskins is his lack of experience. Â
He would definitely have to sit on the bench for a year behind Eli. I would draft him at that spot. He's as good a prospect as any of the 4 players drafted in the top 10 picks this past year.
What is wrong with sitting him for a year? They can do what the Chiefs did with Mahomes.
The question folks have to ask themselves is this: "What do you want 2019 to be?"
Are we still in rebuilding mode? If so, then drafting him is part of the overall process.
Are we trying to do the "win right now" stuff again? I thought we were down this road. This is where using these last few weeks and projecting future performance is very tricky.
A buddy of mine is his first cousin. He said he's still undecided about coming out as of Thanksgiving weekend. We'll see but I don't want him at 10. I'd rather have White or Little
Where is Haskins from? I know he went to private school in Potomac, MD.
Explain how he's overrated? From what I'm reading on random articles and tweets is that he's now the top QB prospect. He's had a phenomenal season while breaking alot of records in the process, as well as being a Heisman finalist. So go ahead and share your explanation
He made the Buckeye faithful quickly the Barrett and his 35TD passes the prior year.
I watch a ton of OSU games. They are loaded with pro prospects on both sides. I actually think they are as talented as Bama up and down their roster.
But for Haskins, I can't recall a QB having a more comfortable pocket and open receivers to throw to than Haskins this year. It was like 7 on 7 drills most games for OSU because the B1G was down this year.
While I certainly give him credit for making plays with his mobility, and showing decent accuracy, I think his production is highly skewed by his circumstances.
I wouldn't touch him in round one. I think there is definite upside, but still a real project. So if we draft him at #10, it would be a definite remote smasher.
If you wouldn't touch him in round 1, who would you draft instead? I'll give my response to what you wrote after I see your answer.
RE: Great QBs don’t come from great teams. They come from mediocre Â
Think about the Great QBs of the past 25 years. Brady is a fluke because Hanson was ahead of him.
So you're basically saying you're in the don't draft Tua camp, even though he's clearly going to be the top QB prospect in the draft next year. My question is why wouldn't you?
I'd wager it knocks him down in the draft a bit. He's not yet a top 15 talent in my eyes.
He's more polished than Herbert is. He can read defenses and he goes through his progression very well. He keeps his eyes downfield and has a cannon as well as very very accurate and is mobile. How does this not scream top 15 to you? I don't understand...
If the Giants pick 10-15, there may be a QB they like, but more likely that they pick o-line or edge rusher.
If the Giants pick 10-15, there may be a QB they like, but more likely that they pick o-line or edge rusher.
This. I don't think they are going to force the QB pick. If they believe in a 2020 guy I think they will pick OL or ER and then trade the farm as they did for Eli, in 2020.
You'll see him rise during the draft process as the media catches up on what NFL teams are thinking.
This ... That kid can really sling it from what I saw, I’m not against picking him.. His ceiling is very high
I can’t understand why he or any other QB in his position would even think of returning to school. If you are all but certainly going in the first round, you have nowhere to go but down. He could have a bad season next year and end up a 4th round pick. I understand wanting to win and all that but I just don’t see how it makes sense. It’s also why I don’t blame Grier for not playing the bowl game. You are on the cusp of becoming rich and achieving a lifelong dream. Athletes still can’t have contacts with agents in college? I kind of think they should be able to, at least someone who can put it to you in dollars and cents. The schools don’t care about them. It’s the reason I struggle with college sports. The schools, coaches, TV stations etc.. all making a killer profit and the kids get very little.
I wouldn’t pick a QB from Alabama or Ohio State.
Think about the Great QBs of the past 25 years. Brady is a fluke because Hanson was ahead of him.
Agreed.
I wouldn’t pick a QB from Alabama or Ohio State.
Think about the Great QBs of the past 25 years. Brady is a fluke because Hanson was ahead of him.
This is horrible logic. You scout the player. Has nothing to do with his team. Basically like saying you wouldn't draft Saquon, because all Penn State RBs suck.
Plays with so much more elite talent than the teams he faced. Even against Michigan they picked on their worst defender all game. He’s not as mobile as people think. Urbs QBs ALWAYS put up insane stats. And yet only one has had any success in the NFL and that’s Alex Smith.
His deep ball isn’t the most impressive and tends to lock on o e WR. He has by far the biggest bust ability out of any QB coming out. His yardage is inflated cause his WRs get in space and are just faster than all the other players on the field.
What makes Haskins “any Qb” the kid was a hiesman for finalists.
The Giants will Be lucky if he is there
Would love to see this move, local kid from Montclair High who wasn't a big time recruit but he's turned into a heck of a player
Agreed, but obviously it's early.
Yep.
Plus I could really do without the stress of defending Haskins on here for years if we take him! Lol
If Greedy and all elite edge rushers are gone, that will leave Jonah Williams sitting there for us. Taking care of the RT spot is far more important than FS. Both need addressing, but the trenches will be prioritized.
Where is Haskins from? I know he went to private school in Potomac, MD.
I watch a ton of OSU games. They are loaded with pro prospects on both sides. I actually think they are as talented as Bama up and down their roster.
But for Haskins, I can't recall a QB having a more comfortable pocket and open receivers to throw to than Haskins this year. It was like 7 on 7 drills most games for OSU because the B1G was down this year.
While I certainly give him credit for making plays with his mobility, and showing decent accuracy, I think his production is highly skewed by his circumstances.
I wouldn't touch him in round one. I think there is definite upside, but still a real project. So if we draft him at #10, it would be a definite remote smasher.
What is wrong with sitting him for a year? They can do what the Chiefs did with Mahomes.
The question folks have to ask themselves is this: "What do you want 2019 to be?"
Are we still in rebuilding mode? If so, then drafting him is part of the overall process.
Are we trying to do the "win right now" stuff again? I thought we were down this road. This is where using these last few weeks and projecting future performance is very tricky.
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A buddy of mine is his first cousin. He said he's still undecided about coming out as of Thanksgiving weekend. We'll see but I don't want him at 10. I'd rather have White or Little
Where is Haskins from? I know he went to private school in Potomac, MD.
Highland Park, NJ
Explain how he's overrated? From what I'm reading on random articles and tweets is that he's now the top QB prospect. He's had a phenomenal season while breaking alot of records in the process, as well as being a Heisman finalist. So go ahead and share your explanation
But the talent disparity was evident and is rightfully a factor.
Everyone looks good with that much time and that much talent at WR.
Evaluating him will be one of the more difficult jobs for scouts.
I watch a ton of OSU games. They are loaded with pro prospects on both sides. I actually think they are as talented as Bama up and down their roster.
But for Haskins, I can't recall a QB having a more comfortable pocket and open receivers to throw to than Haskins this year. It was like 7 on 7 drills most games for OSU because the B1G was down this year.
While I certainly give him credit for making plays with his mobility, and showing decent accuracy, I think his production is highly skewed by his circumstances.
I wouldn't touch him in round one. I think there is definite upside, but still a real project. So if we draft him at #10, it would be a definite remote smasher.
If you wouldn't touch him in round 1, who would you draft instead? I'll give my response to what you wrote after I see your answer.
I wouldn’t pick a QB from Alabama or Ohio State.
Think about the Great QBs of the past 25 years. Brady is a fluke because Hanson was ahead of him.
So you're basically saying you're in the don't draft Tua camp, even though he's clearly going to be the top QB prospect in the draft next year. My question is why wouldn't you?
He's more polished than Herbert is. He can read defenses and he goes through his progression very well. He keeps his eyes downfield and has a cannon as well as very very accurate and is mobile. How does this not scream top 15 to you? I don't understand...