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jcn56 : 12/12/2018 9:40 am
Figured there are enough dog owners on BBI to take a poll. I currently feed this guy an expensive freeze dried organic raw patty from Stella and Chewy. Not that I'm big on any particular dietetic movement, but when he was a pup and I got him home from the puppy mill, I was sold a bag of food that was supposedly what they fed him, and he wouldn't touch the stuff. A week and a few pounds lost later, I was still cycling through until I eventually found this one, and I stuck with it.

Lately, all the dog food recall news has me thinking I'm not a fan of feeding him food out of a bag/can, and maybe it's just best to make him some home cooking. Many of the articles I've run across seem to discourage that because of balancing nutritional needs.

We cook here daily for ourselves and I'm wondering - why not just cook for the dog as well? Anyone else feed theirs a home cooked diet?
If you follow Brandon Jacobs on Instagram  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 12/12/2018 9:41 am : link
he feeds all his dogs raw meat.
RE: If you follow Brandon Jacobs on Instagram  
jcn56 : 12/12/2018 9:46 am : link
In comment 14215637 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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he feeds all his dogs raw meat.


A lot of people do that these days, but my vet (who was lukewarm to the idea of home cooking) discouraged it, saying animals can still get food poisoning from bacteria in meat. Far less likely to happen, though.
If you're a busy person, high-quality commercial food.  
Mr. Bungle : 12/12/2018 9:47 am : link
If you're willing and able, make meals for them at home.

Just do not, of course, feed your dogs cheap crap from the megacorporations.
When our good boy started  
Beezer : 12/12/2018 9:47 am : link
having seizures at around the age of 5, we wanted to go as natural as possible. Wasn't perfect, and it may have been a bit more expensive (not as bad as you'd think, if you look for deals), but he ate twice a day and an average meal consisted of raw chicken (bones and all), a raw egg (shell and all), carrots and potatoes. He got a few spoonsful of coconut oil each week, either as a snack or sometimes in meals. His snacks were mostly baby carrots, which he was crazy for, and he'd get a nice soup bone here and there, marrow included (amazing they were just $3-4, compared t the synthetic ones that he hated, of course). He had kibble occasionally, but only in a blue moon. Kept him n that diet 5-6 years, and he always ate well, right up until he was at the end, in February.

If we ever have another dog, I'd go that way again. Even with his seizure issue, he was a happy, healthy boy overall. For the most part, we knew what we were feeding him, too.
We feed our dogs Veras food brand which is really good...  
bradshaw44 : 12/12/2018 9:48 am : link
But we mix it up. We give them tuna fish, salmon, eggs and cheese, chicken and rice, steak. We like to keep it mixed up for them so they don't get bored and they enjoy meals. I also look at my dogs as if they are my kids, and I know many people don't do that, but to me I took on the responsibility of raising them so I'm going to give them the best.
He occasionally got beef, as well, when we saw something  
Beezer : 12/12/2018 9:49 am : link
we figured he could handle, and it didn't bankrupt us. :)
And those aren't flavors of the food  
bradshaw44 : 12/12/2018 9:50 am : link
We actually make them those dishes a few times a week. Veras is our go to brand that we usually give them for breakfast.
I go to a feed store that caters to all animals equestrian  
Chef : 12/12/2018 9:51 am : link
goats etc..and get high quality grain freed feed from Fromm.
I wouldn't overthink it.  
Section331 : 12/12/2018 9:51 am : link
Buy quality dry food and mix it with a little canned for flavor. I feed my greyhound Merrick dry food and wellness 95% meat wet. Our first greyhound was a picky eater, but our current is a great eater.

If the pup doesn't eat the dry/wet mix, then look at other alternatives (we home-cooked for our first grey the last year or so of his life), but I wouldn't make that commitment until I had to. It is a bit of work.
And on their birthdays  
bradshaw44 : 12/12/2018 9:51 am : link
we give Sadie gnocchi which she loves and Charley gets' steak and chicken.
I like to do both  
vette222184 : 12/12/2018 9:52 am : link
Blue buffalo for his dog food but then tend to give him a small amount of what I’m having as well (chicken breast, turkey, beef). He also loves veggies like carrots or broccoli.
I personally use Kirkland Nature's Domain  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 12/12/2018 9:54 am : link
best bang for your buck. It's comparable to Blue Buffalo Wilderness, but like half the price.
This dog is the pickiest SOB I've ever met  
jcn56 : 12/12/2018 9:57 am : link
He'll eat any piece of crap off the street, but commercially available dogfood - he's too good for that in most cases. And I'm not talking bottom of the barrel, I'm talking about expensive, quality food.

If we weren't already cooking daily for the 3 kids, I'd probably skip it. But since we're already at it, I figured why not. Not to mention that some of the stories lately have really worried me (the vitamin D overdoses in the grain free brands and the one horrific instance where they put dog euthanasia medicine in the food by accident).
I'm a raw feeder too  
Lowell : 12/12/2018 9:59 am : link
I get ground beef, rabbit, chicken, beaver, emu,goat, mutton, large whole sardines,lake trout and whiting shipped from reputable farms. I supplement with some bone and organs and so far so good. Even with the prohibitive shipping expense it is no more expensive than feeding a designer brand of kibble since the dog eats less.

RE: This dog is the pickiest SOB I've ever met  
Lowell : 12/12/2018 10:12 am : link
In comment 14215678 jcn56 said:
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He'll eat any piece of crap off the street, but commercially available dogfood - he's too good for that in most cases. And I'm not talking bottom of the barrel, I'm talking about expensive, quality food.

If we weren't already cooking daily for the 3 kids, I'd probably skip it. But since we're already at it, I figured why not. Not to mention that some of the stories lately have really worried me (the vitamin D overdoses in the grain free brands and the one horrific instance where they put dog euthanasia medicine in the food by accident).


Other kibble concerns: There is no law preventing the meat processing plants that service the pet food industry from using road kill and dead, often diseased animals. They also use sawdust which they conveniently label as cellulose. Lately one big processor was caught using chicken feathers, labeling it as a protein source. They claim they use no chemical preservatives in the kibble but the liner of the bag is laced with preservatives. Shelf life rules in the pet food industry.

I have always fed my dogs the Nutro brand  
jlukes : 12/12/2018 10:13 am : link
and never had any issues
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arcarsenal : 12/12/2018 10:27 am : link
I've had my guy on Royal Canin Golden Retriever Puppy kibble since he came home in June. He's going to be 8 months in a couple weeks, so we're getting closer to switching over to adult food - he's growing like a weed. 13lbs when I picked him up, close to 60 now.

Unfortunately, I still haven't found anything that he WON'T eat. Leaves and sticks included. He'll eat a cigarette butt on the side of the road if he can get to it. Quite a handful.

Anyway - my last one just loved Purina Beneful dry food. I tried all sorts of more expensive foods for him and higher quality foods and he just wanted the Beneful. Who knows why. But I asked my vet if that was okay to keep feeding him and she said it was fine. He made it to 12 and a half years before his kidney disease finally got a hold of him and the food he ate never gave him any problems.

Most commercial foods are fine to feed as long as you're always keeping an eye on recalls and anything potentially problematic - it's a lot of work cooking for a dog on a daily basis and once they get used to home cooked meals, they probably aren't going to want to go back to kibble/packaged food and it'll be tough to get them to eat anything else. If you can afford to do it, great - it's just time consuming and tough for most people to do regularly.
I use Darwins  
robbieballs2003 : 12/12/2018 10:34 am : link
Dogs have very acidic stomachs so getting food poisoning or something like that is extremely unlikely. My dog has mostly raw food with few exceptions.
My 5 year old Golden Retriever  
Gregorio : 12/12/2018 10:38 am : link
Gets Biljac brand grain fee chicken kibbles, 30% protein. I alter that with home cooked greens and proteins. She’s active and healthy.
i use blue basics for my little guy...  
GMAN4LIFE : 12/12/2018 10:45 am : link
he loves it
I have been feeding my 11 y/o Golden  
NDMedics : 12/12/2018 10:57 am : link
Purina One his whole life and recently started supplementing that with Fresh Pet, he loves it!
Blue Buffalo here  
I Love Clams Casino : 12/12/2018 1:51 pm : link
any little change upsets her stomach for days and days
this little gal (17 lbs.)  
I Love Clams Casino : 12/12/2018 2:08 pm : link
over the years has gotten herself into some "things".....one Christmas eve, we left, as is our tradition, and came back to find that she has chewed through the gift wrap and box and had eaten 1/4 lb. of dark chocolate covered marzipan that was a gift for my wife.

In another incident, she jumped up to our dining room table to snatch a candy bar that was near the edge. She consumed 2/3 of a full Toblerone bar.

I always thought chocolate was supposed to be fatal for dogs, especially if a lot was consumed, but she's absolutely 100% healthy today.....
wow  
giantfan2000 : 12/12/2018 2:29 pm : link
only one brand will do
Blue River Dog Food

Blue River Dog Food Commercial - ( New Window )
I feed my dog  
allstarjim : 12/12/2018 2:41 pm : link
A mix of dry kibble and fruits and vegetables. Very careful here, some fruits are toxic to dogs, but there are some that are good for them in moderation. I mix in a little pineapple, cantaloupe, watermelon, blueberries, and apple (not all at once, but typically he'll get one of these and a quarter cup of blueberries at with every meal.) Apple is pretty infrequent and used sparingly, as it can give them diarrhea if they eat too much.

He also gets green beans, carrots, and cucumbers.

He'll often get cutlets of cooked, plain chicken in with his food if we have some for ourselves, and occasionally some steak. On some weekend mornings, he'll get an egg in with his breakfast.

He seems pretty happy but I do think we should make sure we give him more meat regularly with his meals, even though he's getting protein in the kibble.

home cooking can work  
haper : 12/12/2018 3:53 pm : link
I fed my lab bil-jacs and it worked great. The only problem he had with food was a cooked hamburger we gave him around the age of 4. He ended up w diarrhea for a few days and it cost me $400 dollars for the vet to tell me not to feed him 'human food' so that was the end of that.

I have a buddy whose dog was dying of cancer, nothing the vets offered up was helping so they started him on a strict 'human food' diet they cooked at home. The vet was shocked to see how well he had recovered and simply said 'i don't believe in a human food diet but its working so keep doing what you're doing'.
I used to feed  
Bleedin Blue : 12/12/2018 3:59 pm : link
My lab mix raw. She had the whitest teeth, always had great vitals, but the problem was boarding. No vet or boarding place would take her due to handling her raw diet! UGH!! I switched to Blue Buffalo, but wasn’t happy, I switched to Kirkland’s Nature ‘s Domain and have been very happy with her overall health!
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Mike in NJ : 12/12/2018 4:04 pm : link
In comment 14215733 arcarsenal said:
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I've had my guy on Royal Canin Golden Retriever Puppy kibble since he came home in June. He's going to be 8 months in a couple weeks, so we're getting closer to switching over to adult food - he's growing like a weed. 13lbs when I picked him up, close to 60 now.

Unfortunately, I still haven't found anything that he WON'T eat. Leaves and sticks included. He'll eat a cigarette butt on the side of the road if he can get to it. Quite a handful.

Anyway - my last one just loved Purina Beneful dry food. I tried all sorts of more expensive foods for him and higher quality foods and he just wanted the Beneful. Who knows why. But I asked my vet if that was okay to keep feeding him and she said it was fine. He made it to 12 and a half years before his kidney disease finally got a hold of him and the food he ate never gave him any problems.

Most commercial foods are fine to feed as long as you're always keeping an eye on recalls and anything potentially problematic - it's a lot of work cooking for a dog on a daily basis and once they get used to home cooked meals, they probably aren't going to want to go back to kibble/packaged food and it'll be tough to get them to eat anything else. If you can afford to do it, great - it's just time consuming and tough for most people to do regularly.


Royal Canin is the best. I have two bulldogs that we feed Royal Canin Bulldog adult, we originally bought it because it is supposed to cut back on the amount of gas they have. Stuff works like a charm! They pass gas significantly less, and when they do it doesn’t smell nearly as bad. I highly recommend it to anyone who has the unfortunate issue of having a gassy dog.
I noticed a lot of you mention grain free diets  
Mike in NJ : 12/12/2018 4:29 pm : link
You may want to read the attached link. Nothing proven yet, but probably not worth feeding a grain free diet in case this turns out to be a real thing.
Grain-free potentially linked to heart disease - ( New Window )
Our guy  
RinR : 12/12/2018 4:34 pm : link
has been eating Simply Nourish grain free since the day we brought him home. We sometimes add a little pumpkin puree but he loves it.

Grain free is the way to go.
RE: Our guy  
Mike in NJ : 12/12/2018 4:42 pm : link
In comment 14216334 RinR said:
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has been eating Simply Nourish grain free since the day we brought him home. We sometimes add a little pumpkin puree but he loves it.

Grain free is the way to go.


Would love to hear the reasoning behind that. Every vet I’ve ever gone to has said grain free is just a marketing gimmick. What makes it so much better than a food that contains grains?
We have a Staffordshire Terrier with skin issues.  
BigBlue in Keys : 12/12/2018 7:00 pm : link
Vet had him tested and he was allergic to all kinds of things; wheat, soy, eggs, corn, rice were some of the worst. The specialty bag stuff was like $50-70 a bag so we started making our own.

We save all of our cooking scraps like potatoes, carrots, squash, broccoli, celery and then boil a chicken or cow and blend it down. It's not too bad if you are used to cooking. We freeze them in about 3 day servings and need to make a batch every 2-3 weeks. Dog loves it and scarfs down every bit every time.
home cooking  
RasputinPrime : 12/12/2018 7:11 pm : link
for the most part. When you care about your beastie, you offer them the best.
RE: RE: Our guy  
Gregorio : 12/12/2018 8:51 pm : link
In comment 14216346 Mike in NJ said:
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In comment 14216334 RinR said:
Would love to hear the reasoning behind that. Every vet I’ve ever gone to has said grain free is just a marketing gimmick. What makes it so much better than a food that contains grains?


The idea behind grain-free is to avoid nutritionally empty foods that many food manufacturers add as fillers, primarily rice and corn meal. By adding peas instead of rice for example, some valuable protein is included.

RE: RE: RE: Our guy  
Mike in NJ : 12/12/2018 10:09 pm : link
In comment 14216548 Gregorio said:
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In comment 14216346 Mike in NJ said:


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In comment 14216334 RinR said:
Would love to hear the reasoning behind that. Every vet I’ve ever gone to has said grain free is just a marketing gimmick. What makes it so much better than a food that contains grains?



The idea behind grain-free is to avoid nutritionally empty foods that many food manufacturers add as fillers, primarily rice and corn meal. By adding peas instead of rice for example, some valuable protein is included.


Most of these grain free foods are loaded up with things like potatoes which i guess would fall under the term of "nutritionally empty," so what's the difference? All foods have a guaranteed analysis on the bag, and personally I would rather go with the one that is getting the proteins from the actual meat source rather than something that is primarily a carbohydrate like a pea.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Our guy  
Gregorio : 12/12/2018 10:44 pm : link
In comment 14216629 Mike in NJ said:
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Most of these grain free foods are loaded up with things like potatoes which i guess would fall under the term of "nutritionally empty," so what's the difference? All foods have a guaranteed analysis on the bag, and personally I would rather go with the one that is getting the proteins from the actual meat source rather than something that is primarily a carbohydrate like a pea.


Mike, that’s a good point. I looked hard at the ingredients Of many of the commercially available products, and I found one that was potato free, as well as grain free (Biljac grain-free). After chicken it’s next ingredient is pea(s).

I ultimately compromised. In my busy life I don’t have the time or budget to prepare fresh proteins and veggies every day. So I concluded this product was good for everyday use. I supplement my dogs diet with extra cooked proteins and veggies when I can. Between the 2 she is very healthy and active.

What are you feeding your dog?
Mike in NJ, I read that  
Gregorio : 12/12/2018 10:56 pm : link
Linked article on the idea of grain-free diets being harmful. While it raises an interesting theory it is full of caveats and exceptions, and goes out of the way to state that there isn’t sufficient evidence to support the idea. I’ll keep an eye out for solid facts if they were to emerge, but I don’t want to make decisions based on a potential idea.
enough quality commercial  
bc4life : 12/13/2018 10:23 am : link
products out there.
My pups got yeast infections  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 12/13/2018 10:27 am : link
in their webbing and dandriff from the grain. So, I cut it out, and never had a problem with the yeast infections since then.
RE: RE: Our guy  
RinR : 12/13/2018 11:08 am : link
In comment 14216346 Mike in NJ said:
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In comment 14216334 RinR said:


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has been eating Simply Nourish grain free since the day we brought him home. We sometimes add a little pumpkin puree but he loves it.

Grain free is the way to go.



Would love to hear the reasoning behind that. Every vet I’ve ever gone to has said grain free is just a marketing gimmick. What makes it so much better than a food that contains grains?


Our first dog who was not on a grain free diet used to occasionally have these bile spit-ups. She got no table food/scraps so the vet said to try grain free. Sure enough the spit-ups stopped.

So our current dog has been on grain free since day 1 with no issues. He has a good appetite and is healthy so we are not changing anything.
Our boys have had Blue Buffalo fish/salmon all their lives  
Ron from Ninerland : 12/13/2018 11:11 am : link
They are now 13 and 11, both chihuahua / terrier mixes. As for people food they love carrots and like broccoli. When I was up in Alaska I visited a facility where they breed and train sled dogs. They are primarily Husky/Malamute mixes. Being that its Alaska, their primary diet is salmon. Even though these are large dogs, we were told that they generally work until age 12 and live until age 18!
Ron  
Spike13 : 12/13/2018 2:07 pm : link
I watched a documentary lately, I believe it was called “Sled Dogs,” or something analogous. After watching what those dogs’ go through, I will guarantee that any of them surviving to 12, let alone 18 years, is hyperbole at best. There are guidelines for humane execution, issued by branches of both the US & Canadian, governments. Although Canada is ahead of the US when it comes to eliminating, regulating the sport more. The bottom line is no dog was bred to do what sled dogs are said to “enjoy.”
Purina all life stages 30/20  
ctc in ftmyers : 12/13/2018 3:29 pm : link
professional from weaning to grave.
Purina all life stages 30/20  
ctc in ftmyers : 12/13/2018 3:29 pm : link
professional from weaning to grave.
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