Projected Starters
Mudiay-THJ-Hezonja-Vonleh-Kanter
vs
Sexton-Burks-Hood-Osman-Nance
I don't see how the Knicks could lose this one tonight. I don't think there is one person on the Cavs roster who can bully Kanter down low on either end of the court.
Couple Notes
Courtney Lee:
Sent down to the G League yesterday. 16 points. 1-9 from the 3. 7 rebounds. 3 assists. Not a great stat line against G-leaguers for possible trade bait on an immediate return.
On Frank Ntilikina:
.@TheSteinLine says in his recent newsletter that his sense is that the Knicks are NOT actively looking to find a new home for Ntilikina. He notes the Knicks could field calls from teams interested in the Frenchman, but there is a difference between listening and shopping |
Allonzo Trier:
Out the entire road trip with a strained groin. Expect to see him back December 17th against the Suns. Knicks will not have to make a move until he comes back which is when his 2-way contract expires.
Kevin Knox:
@StevePopper
Fizdale said he is debating a lineup change. Sounds like Knox could be back in for Hezonja. |
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If Mudiay makes that contested shot, Cavs have the ball with a lot of time left and can set up a play during a timeout. I'd rather have the final shot where I can plan a good look and not give them an opportunity to get the ball back.
not 1 single team in the entire nba would play it out like that..
and thr shot was fine, he drew the foul and the refs swallowed their wjistle
Bullshit. I'd rather have the game in my hand than the other team's.
And yeah, it was a foul, but it was a crappy shot. It was contested and not a good look at all.
there was no one in front him he had a clean look..
and again you are wrong, you do not run the clock down dowj 1
For one final shot, of course you do. You have what? 16 seconds left? Kill some time. Get a better looking shot. He did get fouled by Dellavadipshit, but Nance was also right in front of him.
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Mudiay went way too fast there. Can argue he was fouled by Delly, but still an odd choice. Missed shot forced Knicks to foul, now down three.
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Mudiay went way too fast there. Can argue he was fouled by Delly, but still an odd choice. Missed shot forced Knicks to foul, now down three.
so again you would rather miss and lose then miss and extend the game?
I had the same reaction the other day when Wade and LeBron were facing each other for the last time - who cares really? I get they are friends and are both very good but LeBron is a top five all time player and Wade is considerably less than that. Hardly Bird and Magic facing off for the last time.
Fill the rest of the roster with more reclamation projects..
mudiay/frank
Barrett/dotson
Knox
KP
Vonleh/Robinson
Let the young guys grow
I dont think theyll have a real shot at either, but if they do they cant pass it up.
I would give the max to KD or Kawhi for sure. I could probably be talked into Kyrie because he is younger than Kemba, but he also comes with more injury risk.
all depends when KP comes back..
Was probably the first time I fist pumped during a Knick game in maybe 5 years.
PG - Frank
SG - Dotson
SF - Knox
PF Vonleh
C - Robinson
Rotation players off bench
Mudiay
Burke
Trier
Kanter
Lee and hardaway have to be traded away.
Thats it I dont need to see anyone else. When Zinger comes back Robinson goes to bench and Kanter gets bought out unless another team has other expirings to send back
Their best 5 offensively/defensively would probably be..Frank, Dot, Knox, Vonleh, KP..
Knox/Kp screen and roll, the spacing on the court..damn
Adding Kemba and a top 5 pick would set the Knicks up to be really good for a while. Even if they were a little short of a title team right away, they'd be good enough to be a really desirable situation to attract other talent. If the top 5 pick or Knox turned into an all-star, they'd be right up there with Philly or Boston.
The best player on an average team sometimes isnt everything.
Durant is a different story.
Who's the 2nd best player on the Hornets? Kemba is a great player. I would be happy to have him on the Knicks.
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Adding Kemba would be the worst thing a team like the Knicks can do. Hes gonna be 30 looking for a huge deal. Plus, for how "good" he is.... he still has them near the bottom of the the East and has never really raised them to anything but a bottom playoff team in the East at best.
Who's the 2nd best player on the Hornets? Kemba is a great player. I would be happy to have him on the Knicks.
Why does it matter? He has now become a volume shooter. He doesnt distribute the ball well enough for someone who always has the ball. He doesnt shoot a high percentage. His 3 point shooting has gone done from the last few years.
Right now, his best attritubute is he gets to the line and makes free throws. People really overrate this guy. Plus he will be 30 next year looking for major bucks. Hes a number 4 on a championship team, IMO.
Cap space is nice to have. But so is having an all nba point guard you got without giving up any talent.
Cap space is nice to have. But so is having an all nba point guard you got without giving up any talent.
Theres a lot of speculation in your opinion. With better talent, his scoring goes way down as well. Walker is barely a top 10 PG in the NBA if at all. He shouldnt even be in discussions for an All-NBA team.
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It matters because that team is complete garbage and he wins with them and that matters. His shooting % and assists would go up with a better team. His 2nd best player right now is a rookie. Dragging that team to 14-13 is an accomplishment.
Cap space is nice to have. But so is having an all nba point guard you got without giving up any talent.
Theres a lot of speculation in your opinion. With better talent, his scoring goes way down as well. Walker is barely a top 10 PG in the NBA if at all. He shouldnt even be in discussions for an All-NBA team.
You don't think Kemba is a top 10 point guard?
You don't think Kemba is a top 10 point guard?
Westbrook
Curry
Harden/Paul
Lillard
Simmons
Irving
Lowry
Lebron (lets be honest, hes the PG.)
Holiday (hes he PG as well)
So theres 9 definites. If you want to put Wall, Conley, Kemba, Fox, or whoever in as the 10th - go for it. But i dont see him as a top PG in the NBA.
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You don't think Kemba is a top 10 point guard?
Westbrook
Curry
Harden/Paul
Lillard
Simmons
Irving
Lowry
Lebron (lets be honest, hes the PG.)
Holiday (hes he PG as well)
So theres 9 definites. If you want to put Wall, Conley, Kemba, Fox, or whoever in as the 10th - go for it. But i dont see him as a top PG in the NBA.
Agree that Lebron is a PG. But outside of Lowry and Holiday, you just listed 8 of the top 15 players in the league. I also think hes better than Lowry/Holiday and has been better than Irving the last few seasons. Also currently ( not value or projected value), he's probably a better player than Simmons.
I understand the concerns to giving that mega contract. But whats the alternative? This guy is only 28, tough as nails, gets better every year, and only missed 5 games since 2015. And you can't discount the fact his teams win with very little talent around him. That counts.
I'll take a top 20 nba player and top 10 PG that you only have to sacrifice cap space to acquire. Who else is your point guard next year? Mudiay??
You think adding Kemba and KP to this group will get you a ceiling of a 6 seed in the East? The Hornets are currently 6th and their 2nd and 3rd leading scorers are Monk and Tony Parker...
He's not perfect but Kemba/ KP with these young guys and 2019 pick has alot of potential...
He will be 29 in a month. He wants max money. How far is he taking you in 5 years? He isnt getting better. He is just getting more volume.
Be very wary.
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if you max Kemba? 6th seed in the East? You're locked into mediocrity at best with him as your best/highest paid player. Hard pass.
You think adding Kemba and KP to this group will get you a ceiling of a 6 seed in the East? The Hornets are currently 6th and their 2nd and 3rd leading scorers are Monk and Tony Parker...
He's not perfect but Kemba/ KP with these young guys and 2019 pick has alot of potential...
Signing second-tier guys to max contracts is something the Knicks should avoid doing.
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if you max Kemba? 6th seed in the East? You're locked into mediocrity at best with him as your best/highest paid player. Hard pass.
You think adding Kemba and KP to this group will get you a ceiling of a 6 seed in the East? The Hornets are currently 6th and their 2nd and 3rd leading scorers are Monk and Tony Parker...
He's not perfect but Kemba/ KP with these young guys and 2019 pick has alot of potential...
With who they have and adding kemba and KP....
Sixers
Celtics
Raptors
Bucks
Those 4 would be better. So the 5th seed?
This is THE YEAR we need to lose lose lose- there is a crystal clear path to contention in the next 5 years and the #1 step is getting one of those two players in this draft.
For the life of me I don't understand why some fans were angered by the loss last night - or any other night - this team NEEDS to draft a star player. Giving a near 30 star? player like Kemba a max is just history repeating itself for this franchise.
Cmon, that's silly. I don't want to shovel money at Kemba, but he's absolutely a better player than Lowry and Holiday.
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is nowhere near Ben Simmons. And he isnt better than Lowry/Holiday
Cmon, that's silly. I don't want to shovel money at Kemba, but he's absolutely a better player than Lowry and Holiday.
Kemba shoots 3s better than Holiday. But Holiday is 20/9 this year with better defense.
What we really need is 0 minutes from Hardaway.
Yes currently the celtics/ bucks/ raptors/ sixers may be better next year. But alot can change. What happens when the Celtics young guys don't improve or Irving gets hurt again? Or when Leonard leaves in FA and Lowry is now 33? Or Embiid gets hurt again or Simmons doesn't get any better. Things happen. And hopefully Knox/ KP/ Frank/ 2019 pick and other young guys continue to make a jump.
I just simply disagree that Holiday and Lowry are better players. And if you don't think Kemba has improved then you aren't watching.
Whos a bigger injury risk- Kemba or Kyrie? I'm not saying the guy is perfect and I don't think he's even leaving, but I find it funny how Knicks fans are now being picky about an all star PG.
I need to believe that we have a slight but hopeful chance at one of these two. Why is Leonard going to the stupid clippers all but preordained? The clippers?
To be fair he wouldnt be the best player here nor would he have to be.
I just think this is unfair. When the Knicks traded for melo they had one or two good players with barely any chance to improve. They had stat, who was already showing age and injury issues and what else? Ok they were able to use the last of their cap room on Tyson chandler but that was IT. That Knicks team had literally no other way of improving, the coffers were bare. This Knicks situation has so much more room for growth and potential even if they squander their cap room this summer on a mere mortal nba player. Im not saying to throw money away but you cant compare today to the melo deal and time.