NFT: NBA: Knicks vs Cavs 7pm

the Knicks have a few winnable games between now and Christmas, but Christmas Day through the end of January is gonna be a bloodbath. The pro-tankers should have a nice winter.

to go to the G-League, acknowledged he is basically in preseason form right now.

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Chris Iseman ‏Verified account @ChrisIseman Asked David Fizdale about Damyean Dotson today. He gave a rave review: "I�m so happy for him. Everything about him, he is really a guy that I can see growing in our environment here. All of his intangibles are what we look for in guys." #Knicks

having lunch at the Lakers facility. Hope Lebron's posse didn't walk by.

Just read the buyers around the league right now are Detroit, Sacramento,and Pelicans.

Detroit and Sac match up well for a Hardaway trade. Pistons owner is very motivated to get back in the playoffs and I believe his dad coached there. Make it happen Perry.

It's inevitable, and I'm glad he's earning a promotion, but I kinda prefer him playing with the other kids on the second unit - Frank and Dotson in particular look for him quite a bit, and have a nice chemistry developing. In the starting lineup, Timmy chucks away and Kanter is a Kevin McHale-level black hole in the low post.

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It's inevitable, and I'm glad he's earning a promotion, but I kinda prefer him playing with the other kids on the second unit - Frank and Dotson in particular look for him quite a bit, and have a nice chemistry developing. In the starting lineup, Timmy chucks away and Kanter is a Kevin McHale-level black hole in the low post.

Lets hopr he starts and he starts for the rest of the year...

really excited to see when kp comes back him playing with knox and vonleh, and robinson in spurts...

i think vonleh is a great match with kp

Best outcome would be Frank and Knox playing well, close game, Knicks lose. Trier out with a very convenient injury until they can figure out how to squeeze him onto the roster.

Kanter and Lee. Wouldn�t be hesrtbroken to hear trade rumors on Timmy too

Robinson
Vonleh
Knox
Dotson
Frank
Will hopefully be the lineup towards the trade deadline and until KP returns

Kids getting playing time and tank in full force

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Best outcome would be Frank and Knox playing well, close game, Knicks lose. Trier out with a very convenient injury until they can figure out how to squeeze him onto the roster.

It amuses me that people always assume that others are being devious or scheming in some way. In this instance it is much more likely, at least in my opinion, that Trier actually has an injury. Even if the Knicks have a trade lined up for after the 15th, it doesn't benefit Trier to sit out with a fake injury instead of getting playing time in the g-league. I could very well be wrong, but if I am I will lose even more respect for this front office.

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Timmy and Kanter doing Timmy and Kanter things.

just chucked and played zero defense

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just chucked and played zero defense

If it was a true meritocracy, Timmy would be due for some DNPs. He's been garbage.

The Cavs.

Score 39 points.

In the first quarter.

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hahahahahahaha

Hardaway needs to go.

Timmy?

Great work.

We should definitely be considering trading Enes for a worse contract and a first.

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Knox looking good, and playing HARD.

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as we head to the fourth.

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Keep feeding the Frenchie.

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Why does Fiz keep pulling him? Some of his subs make zero sense.

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run the offense through knox, yes i am overreacting...

oh by the way mudiay 15 7 and 7

too easy for Hood

Frank was all over him

Why the hell would Mudiay put up a shot in that situation? You're down one. You have the final possession....

Can't stand that dirty fuck.

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Why the hell would Mudiay put up a shot in that situation? You're down one. You have the final possession....

you never let time expire down 1

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Can't stand that dirty fuck.

how does a known dirty player get the benefit of the doubt?

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In comment 14216571 Anakim said: Quote: Why the hell would Mudiay put up a shot in that situation? You're down one. You have the final possession.... you never let time expire down 1

Ummm. why not? You score and then the Cavs have the final shot and can put the game to bed.

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too easy for Hood

That was really good defense and a great shot.

I thought it was a good no call on Mudiay. He needs to get a better shot there.

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Jesus Christ, Mudiay

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What a terrible play call after the time out. Just laughable.

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In comment 14216575 nygiants16 said: Quote: In comment 14216571 Anakim said: Quote: Why the hell would Mudiay put up a shot in that situation? You're down one. You have the final possession.... you never let time expire down 1 Ummm. why not? You score and then the Cavs have the final shot and can put the game to bed.

i am sorry that is stupid

Shouldn�t have Kanter out there. And Frank should be inbounding.

Enjoy that win cocksuckers

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In comment 14216577 Anakim said: Quote: In comment 14216575 nygiants16 said: Quote: In comment 14216571 Anakim said: Quote: Why the hell would Mudiay put up a shot in that situation? You're down one. You have the final possession.... you never let time expire down 1 Ummm. why not? You score and then the Cavs have the final shot and can put the game to bed. i am sorry that is stupid

What are you talking about? You're down 1, you hold for the final shot unless you have an easy shot.

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Enjoy that win cocksuckers

The tank rolls on

Frank and Knox looked good and we lost. Can't beat that.

It�s probably all we can really ask for and maybe it�s best case scenario. For now it definitely is.

In comment 14216588 Anakim said:

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In comment 14216585 nygiants16 said: Quote: In comment 14216577 Anakim said: Quote: In comment 14216575 nygiants16 said: Quote: In comment 14216571 Anakim said: Quote: Why the hell would Mudiay put up a shot in that situation? You're down one. You have the final possession.... you never let time expire down 1 Ummm. why not? You score and then the Cavs have the final shot and can put the game to bed. i am sorry that is stupid What are you talking about? You're down 1, you hold for the final shot unless you have an easy shot.

so you would rather miss and lose than miss foul and get another possession?

Quality tank loss though. Knox showing balls. Frankie backs up his 18 points with 16 more points. On pace for 25 wins.

but tanking is still the best option, nice to see frank play decently well and knox step up at the end, nice to see the effort to come back down 22.

Why the fuck are Jazz fans giving Dwayne Wade a standing ovation. Wade's a great player but he's also the mastermind behind the NBA being more exciting in the off-season than the entire regular season and playoffs. Fuck him. And while a great player he's not an all time great. These standing ovations are nauseating. The LeBron/Wade lovefest the other night was sickening. "The last time they will ever play against each other". Like that matters. It would only matter to me if they were big time rivals and one was retiring. Jordan/Ewing level. Otherwise fuck off Wade

But someone said earlier best case to lose a close one with Frankie and Knox playing well. We got that but it still sucks ass!

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but tanking is still the best option, nice to see frank play decently well and knox step up at the end, nice to see the effort to come back down 22. Why the fuck are Jazz fans giving Dwayne Wade a standing ovation. Wade's a great player but he's also the mastermind behind the NBA being more exciting in the off-season than the entire regular season and playoffs. Fuck him. And while a great player he's not an all time great. These standing ovations are nauseating. The LeBron/Wade lovefest the other night was sickening. "The last time they will ever play against each other". Like that matters. It would only matter to me if they were big time rivals and one was retiring. Jordan/Ewing level. Otherwise fuck off Wade

wade is absolutely an all time great and a future hall of famer

If Mudiay makes that contested shot, Cavs have the ball with a lot of time left and can set up a play during a timeout. I'd rather have the final shot where I can plan a good look and not give them an opportunity to get the ball back.

with Hardaway and Kanter getting major minutes. They are NOT winning players. The sooner they are off this team the better.

And one more year of experience to this team, add in another lottery pick coming, that team would be a lot of fun long term. KP is one great player. Max slot available for another. Lotto pick coming summer 19.... could be nice.

Any chance kawhi Leonard comes to the Knicks? Is he all but locked in to Lebron in LA?

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If Mudiay makes that contested shot, Cavs have the ball with a lot of time left and can set up a play during a timeout. I'd rather have the final shot where I can plan a good look and not give them an opportunity to get the ball back.

not 1 single team in the entire nba would play it out like that..

and thr shot was fine, he drew the foul and the refs swallowed their wjistle

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And one more year of experience to this team, add in another lottery pick coming, that team would be a lot of fun long term. KP is one great player. Max slot available for another. Lotto pick coming summer 19.... could be nice. Any chance kawhi Leonard comes to the Knicks? Is he all but locked in to Lebron in LA?

kawhi going to the clippers

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In comment 14216601 Anakim said: Quote: If Mudiay makes that contested shot, Cavs have the ball with a lot of time left and can set up a play during a timeout. I'd rather have the final shot where I can plan a good look and not give them an opportunity to get the ball back. not 1 single team in the entire nba would play it out like that.. and thr shot was fine, he drew the foul and the refs swallowed their wjistle

Bullshit. I'd rather have the game in my hand than the other team's.


And yeah, it was a foul, but it was a crappy shot. It was contested and not a good look at all.

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In comment 14216596 MookGiants said: Quote: but tanking is still the best option, nice to see frank play decently well and knox step up at the end, nice to see the effort to come back down 22. Why the fuck are Jazz fans giving Dwayne Wade a standing ovation. Wade's a great player but he's also the mastermind behind the NBA being more exciting in the off-season than the entire regular season and playoffs. Fuck him. And while a great player he's not an all time great. These standing ovations are nauseating. The LeBron/Wade lovefest the other night was sickening. "The last time they will ever play against each other". Like that matters. It would only matter to me if they were big time rivals and one was retiring. Jordan/Ewing level. Otherwise fuck off Wade wade is absolutely an all time great and a future hall of famer

He's a great player. But I dont remember Scottie Pippen getting this type of reception. Jordan, Kobe, LeBron, guys like that deserve it. Not Wade.

Future hall of famer means nothing to me. He's a great player. But in Salt Lake City Utah he just got a standing ovation. He helped ruin the NBA for a lot of cities. Fuck him.

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In comment 14216605 nygiants16 said: Quote: In comment 14216601 Anakim said: Quote: If Mudiay makes that contested shot, Cavs have the ball with a lot of time left and can set up a play during a timeout. I'd rather have the final shot where I can plan a good look and not give them an opportunity to get the ball back. not 1 single team in the entire nba would play it out like that.. and thr shot was fine, he drew the foul and the refs swallowed their wjistle Bullshit. I'd rather have the game in my hand than the other team's. And yeah, it was a foul, but it was a crappy shot. It was contested and not a good look at all.

there was no one in front him he had a clean look..

and again you are wrong, you do not run the clock down dowj 1

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In comment 14216608 Anakim said: Quote: In comment 14216605 nygiants16 said: Quote: In comment 14216601 Anakim said: Quote: If Mudiay makes that contested shot, Cavs have the ball with a lot of time left and can set up a play during a timeout. I'd rather have the final shot where I can plan a good look and not give them an opportunity to get the ball back. not 1 single team in the entire nba would play it out like that.. and thr shot was fine, he drew the foul and the refs swallowed their wjistle Bullshit. I'd rather have the game in my hand than the other team's. And yeah, it was a foul, but it was a crappy shot. It was contested and not a good look at all. there was no one in front him he had a clean look.. and again you are wrong, you do not run the clock down dowj 1

For one final shot, of course you do. You have what? 16 seconds left? Kill some time. Get a better looking shot. He did get fouled by Dellavadipshit, but Nance was also right in front of him.

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Mudiay went way too fast there. Can argue he was fouled by Delly, but still an odd choice. Missed shot forced Knicks to foul, now down three.

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Kurt Helin ‏ @basketballtalk Mudiay went way too fast there. Can argue he was fouled by Delly, but still an odd choice. Missed shot forced Knicks to foul, now down three.

so again you would rather miss and lose then miss and extend the game?

Obviously a great player but not someone who warrants some special farewell tour. To the extent that he is really remembered in NBA history it will be because of his friendship with LeBron and that Big Three Miami team.

I had the same reaction the other day when Wade and LeBron were facing each other for the last time - who cares really? I get they are friends and are both very good but LeBron is a top five all time player and Wade is considerably less than that. Hardly Bird and Magic facing off for the last time.

let Kanter expire, resign vonleh and maybe mudiay, try and trade hardaway and lee..

Fill the rest of the roster with more reclamation projects..

mudiay/frank
Barrett/dotson
Knox
KP
Vonleh/Robinson

Let the young guys grow

I don�t want Kemba or Kyrie for example, but if they can land Durant or Kawhi then just do it and figure the rest out. You can�t say no to players like that.

I don�t think they�ll have a real shot at either, but if they do they can�t pass it up.

but I think the Knicks would sign him if he's receptive.

He's going to be eligible for the super max, and paying a small guard that will be on the wrong side of 30 for most of the contract is a terrible decision.

I would give the max to KD or Kawhi for sure. I could probably be talked into Kyrie because he is younger than Kemba, but he also comes with more injury risk.

No shot at Durant and Kawhi...

We're three games "up" on the Nets for fifth worst record in the league - Nets and Wizards have roughly the same record, and from there it's all teams hovering around .500 or above. At the very least, we'll be drafting a few slots higher than usual. Our January schedule is brutal.

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We're three games "up" on the Nets for fifth worst record in the league - Nets and Wizards have roughly the same record, and from there it's all teams hovering around .500 or above. At the very least, we'll be drafting a few slots higher than usual. Our January schedule is brutal.

all depends when KP comes back..

on their way home, and they both agreed offense should of ran through knox rather than tim

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Was probably the first time I fist pumped during a Knick game in maybe 5 years.

And it�s not because I think he is a terrible player I actually think he can be a key 3rd or 4th piece ina contender. He is just delaying this whole knicks development. I don�t like Kanter either but they just do not have another tough guys down low and Robinson cannot play 30 plus minutes physically. I would like to see starting line up the rest of the way of:

PG - Frank
SG - Dotson
SF - Knox
PF Vonleh
C - Robinson

Rotation players off bench
Mudiay
Burke
Trier
Kanter

Lee and hardaway have to be traded away.

That�s it I don�t need to see anyone else. When Zinger comes back Robinson goes to bench and Kanter gets bought out unless another team has other expirings to send back

with this group, that young group with kp that finished the nets game is going to be fun to watch..

Their best 5 offensively/defensively would probably be..Frank, Dot, Knox, Vonleh, KP..

Knox/Kp screen and roll, the spacing on the court..damn

player this year. Certainly good enough to be the second best player on a contender.

Adding Kemba and a top 5 pick would set the Knicks up to be really good for a while. Even if they were a little short of a title team right away, they'd be good enough to be a really desirable situation to attract other talent. If the top 5 pick or Knox turned into an all-star, they'd be right up there with Philly or Boston.

Adding Kemba would be the worst thing a team like the Knicks can do. Hes gonna be 30 looking for a huge deal. Plus, for how "good" he is.... he still has them near the bottom of the the East and has never really raised them to anything but a bottom playoff team in the East at best.

shooting 43% from the floor and 35% from downtown are hardly anything to write home about....

The best player on an average team sometimes isnt everything.

Summer league. Two blocks too and he's showing some good rebounding ability too. Love it.

43 minutes from Hardaway last night? Dotson deserves more mins. And I still hate watching Mudiay. He's only interested in his getting his own shot off...and he's simply not good enough to play that way. Frank is a work in progress, but the ball just seems to move around more when he's out there.

no Kemba. No Wall. I don't want any all-star players around 30 lookin to get a big deal. Do we want another Melo like situation on our hands?

Durant is a different story.

ron baker going to be released

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Adding Kemba would be the worst thing a team like the Knicks can do. Hes gonna be 30 looking for a huge deal. Plus, for how "good" he is.... he still has them near the bottom of the the East and has never really raised them to anything but a bottom playoff team in the East at best.

Who's the 2nd best player on the Hornets? Kemba is a great player. I would be happy to have him on the Knicks.

Zion or RJ Barrett you should be happy they lost the game last night.

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In comment 14216857 dep026 said: Quote: Adding Kemba would be the worst thing a team like the Knicks can do. Hes gonna be 30 looking for a huge deal. Plus, for how "good" he is.... he still has them near the bottom of the the East and has never really raised them to anything but a bottom playoff team in the East at best. Who's the 2nd best player on the Hornets? Kemba is a great player. I would be happy to have him on the Knicks.

Why does it matter? He has now become a volume shooter. He doesnt distribute the ball well enough for someone who always has the ball. He doesnt shoot a high percentage. His 3 point shooting has gone done from the last few years.

Right now, his best attritubute is he gets to the line and makes free throws. People really overrate this guy. Plus he will be 30 next year looking for major bucks. Hes a number 4 on a championship team, IMO.

It matters because that team is complete garbage and he wins with them and that matters. His shooting % and assists would go up with a better team. His 2nd best player right now is a rookie. Dragging that team to 14-13 is an accomplishment.

Cap space is nice to have. But so is having an all nba point guard you got without giving up any talent.

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It matters because that team is complete garbage and he wins with them and that matters. His shooting % and assists would go up with a better team. His 2nd best player right now is a rookie. Dragging that team to 14-13 is an accomplishment. Cap space is nice to have. But so is having an all nba point guard you got without giving up any talent.

Theres a lot of speculation in your opinion. With better talent, his scoring goes way down as well. Walker is barely a top 10 PG in the NBA if at all. He shouldnt even be in discussions for an All-NBA team.

Kemba would be a massive upgrade at the position. I'm on the fence about him, but he's 28 years old - let's not pretend he's some dinosaur. He's also missed fewer than three games in each of the past three seasons, and would be a near lock to average 22-25ppg for the duration of the contract, if not more. He'd be a good closer, and his ability to get to the rim and the free throw line is something the team sorely lacks. They can surround him with shooting and let him attack. I guess I just talked myself into it.

If the Knicks are drafting 4-8, Morant and Garland could be in play for them - they bring a lot of the things Kemba does at a fraction of the price.

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In comment 14217074 TyreeHelmet said: Quote: It matters because that team is complete garbage and he wins with them and that matters. His shooting % and assists would go up with a better team. His 2nd best player right now is a rookie. Dragging that team to 14-13 is an accomplishment. Cap space is nice to have. But so is having an all nba point guard you got without giving up any talent. Theres a lot of speculation in your opinion. With better talent, his scoring goes way down as well. Walker is barely a top 10 PG in the NBA if at all. He shouldnt even be in discussions for an All-NBA team.

You don't think Kemba is a top 10 point guard?

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You don't think Kemba is a top 10 point guard?

Westbrook
Curry
Harden/Paul
Lillard
Simmons
Irving
Lowry
Lebron (lets be honest, hes the PG.)
Holiday (hes he PG as well)

So theres 9 definites. If you want to put Wall, Conley, Kemba, Fox, or whoever in as the 10th - go for it. But i dont see him as a top PG in the NBA.

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In comment 14217141 TyreeHelmet said: Quote: You don't think Kemba is a top 10 point guard? Westbrook Curry Harden/Paul Lillard Simmons Irving Lowry Lebron (lets be honest, hes the PG.) Holiday (hes he PG as well) So theres 9 definites. If you want to put Wall, Conley, Kemba, Fox, or whoever in as the 10th - go for it. But i dont see him as a top PG in the NBA.

Agree that Lebron is a PG. But outside of Lowry and Holiday, you just listed 8 of the top 15 players in the league. I also think hes better than Lowry/Holiday and has been better than Irving the last few seasons. Also currently ( not value or projected value), he's probably a better player than Simmons.

I understand the concerns to giving that mega contract. But whats the alternative? This guy is only 28, tough as nails, gets better every year, and only missed 5 games since 2015. And you can't discount the fact his teams win with very little talent around him. That counts.

I'll take a top 20 nba player and top 10 PG that you only have to sacrifice cap space to acquire. Who else is your point guard next year? Mudiay??

if you max Kemba? 6th seed in the East? You're locked into mediocrity at best with him as your best/highest paid player. Hard pass.

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if you max Kemba? 6th seed in the East? You're locked into mediocrity at best with him as your best/highest paid player. Hard pass.

You think adding Kemba and KP to this group will get you a ceiling of a 6 seed in the East? The Hornets are currently 6th and their 2nd and 3rd leading scorers are Monk and Tony Parker...

He's not perfect but Kemba/ KP with these young guys and 2019 pick has alot of potential...

is nowhere near Ben Simmons. And he isnt better than Lowry/Holiday and certainly not better than Kyrie. And he is nowhere near a top 20 player either.

He will be 29 in a month. He wants max money. How far is he taking you in 5 years? He isnt getting better. He is just getting more volume.

Be very wary.

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In comment 14217191 elisha2014 said: Quote: if you max Kemba? 6th seed in the East? You're locked into mediocrity at best with him as your best/highest paid player. Hard pass. You think adding Kemba and KP to this group will get you a ceiling of a 6 seed in the East? The Hornets are currently 6th and their 2nd and 3rd leading scorers are Monk and Tony Parker... He's not perfect but Kemba/ KP with these young guys and 2019 pick has alot of potential...

Signing second-tier guys to max contracts is something the Knicks should avoid doing.

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In comment 14217191 elisha2014 said: Quote: if you max Kemba? 6th seed in the East? You're locked into mediocrity at best with him as your best/highest paid player. Hard pass. You think adding Kemba and KP to this group will get you a ceiling of a 6 seed in the East? The Hornets are currently 6th and their 2nd and 3rd leading scorers are Monk and Tony Parker... He's not perfect but Kemba/ KP with these young guys and 2019 pick has alot of potential...

With who they have and adding kemba and KP....

Sixers
Celtics
Raptors
Bucks

Those 4 would be better. So the 5th seed?

1st round pick will either be an immediate star player (Zion/RJ) or another young guy who needs years to develop.

This is THE YEAR we need to lose lose lose- there is a crystal clear path to contention in the next 5 years and the #1 step is getting one of those two players in this draft.

For the life of me I don't understand why some fans were angered by the loss last night - or any other night - this team NEEDS to draft a star player. Giving a near 30 star? player like Kemba a max is just history repeating itself for this franchise.

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is nowhere near Ben Simmons. And he isnt better than Lowry/Holiday

Cmon, that's silly. I don't want to shovel money at Kemba, but he's absolutely a better player than Lowry and Holiday.

reason the Pelicans paid Holiday a near max was to appease Davis. It's worth going over the cap/overpaying players to keep a superstar happy.

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In comment 14217212 dep026 said: Quote: is nowhere near Ben Simmons. And he isnt better than Lowry/Holiday Cmon, that's silly. I don't want to shovel money at Kemba, but he's absolutely a better player than Lowry and Holiday.

Kemba shoots 3s better than Holiday. But Holiday is 20/9 this year with better defense.

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43 minutes from Hardaway last night?

What we really need is 0 minutes from Hardaway.

How does signing Kemba hurt the 2019 draft pick or hinder the development of the young players? If your saying you want to tank again next season, thats a different argument and I don't think feasible.

Yes currently the celtics/ bucks/ raptors/ sixers may be better next year. But alot can change. What happens when the Celtics young guys don't improve or Irving gets hurt again? Or when Leonard leaves in FA and Lowry is now 33? Or Embiid gets hurt again or Simmons doesn't get any better. Things happen. And hopefully Knox/ KP/ Frank/ 2019 pick and other young guys continue to make a jump.

I just simply disagree that Holiday and Lowry are better players. And if you don't think Kemba has improved then you aren't watching.

Whos a bigger injury risk- Kemba or Kyrie? I'm not saying the guy is perfect and I don't think he's even leaving, but I find it funny how Knicks fans are now being picky about an all star PG.

It's about paying a second tier 29 year old max money that doesn't quite fit the timeline with these Knicks. It would be Melo all over again.

You better take Kemba and like it

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No shot at Durant and Kawhi...

I need to believe that we have a slight but hopeful chance at one of these two. Why is Leonard going to the stupid clippers all but preordained? The clippers?

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if you max Kemba? 6th seed in the East? You're locked into mediocrity at best with him as your best/highest paid player. Hard pass.

To be fair he wouldn�t be the best player here nor would he have to be.

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It's about paying a second tier 29 year old max money that doesn't quite fit the timeline with these Knicks. It would be Melo all over again.

I just think this is unfair. When the Knicks traded for melo they had one or two good players with barely any chance to improve. They had stat, who was already showing age and injury issues and what else? Ok they were able to use the last of their cap room on Tyson chandler but that was IT. That Knicks team had literally no other way of improving, the coffers were bare. This Knicks situation has so much more room for growth and potential even if they �squander� their cap room this summer on a mere mortal nba player. I�m not saying to throw money away but you can�t compare today to the melo deal and time.