NFT: NBA: Knicks vs Cavs 7pm

What a terrible play call after the time out. Just laughable.

In comment 14216577 Anakim said:

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In comment 14216575 nygiants16 said: Quote: In comment 14216571 Anakim said: Quote: Why the hell would Mudiay put up a shot in that situation? You're down one. You have the final possession.... you never let time expire down 1 Ummm. why not? You score and then the Cavs have the final shot and can put the game to bed.

i am sorry that is stupid

Shouldn�t have Kanter out there. And Frank should be inbounding.

Enjoy that win cocksuckers

In comment 14216585 nygiants16 said:

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In comment 14216577 Anakim said: Quote: In comment 14216575 nygiants16 said: Quote: In comment 14216571 Anakim said: Quote: Why the hell would Mudiay put up a shot in that situation? You're down one. You have the final possession.... you never let time expire down 1 Ummm. why not? You score and then the Cavs have the final shot and can put the game to bed. i am sorry that is stupid

What are you talking about? You're down 1, you hold for the final shot unless you have an easy shot.

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Enjoy that win cocksuckers

The tank rolls on

Frank and Knox looked good and we lost. Can't beat that.

It�s probably all we can really ask for and maybe it�s best case scenario. For now it definitely is.

In comment 14216588 Anakim said:

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In comment 14216585 nygiants16 said: Quote: In comment 14216577 Anakim said: Quote: In comment 14216575 nygiants16 said: Quote: In comment 14216571 Anakim said: Quote: Why the hell would Mudiay put up a shot in that situation? You're down one. You have the final possession.... you never let time expire down 1 Ummm. why not? You score and then the Cavs have the final shot and can put the game to bed. i am sorry that is stupid What are you talking about? You're down 1, you hold for the final shot unless you have an easy shot.

so you would rather miss and lose than miss foul and get another possession?

Quality tank loss though. Knox showing balls. Frankie backs up his 18 points with 16 more points. On pace for 25 wins.

but tanking is still the best option, nice to see frank play decently well and knox step up at the end, nice to see the effort to come back down 22.

Why the fuck are Jazz fans giving Dwayne Wade a standing ovation. Wade's a great player but he's also the mastermind behind the NBA being more exciting in the off-season than the entire regular season and playoffs. Fuck him. And while a great player he's not an all time great. These standing ovations are nauseating. The LeBron/Wade lovefest the other night was sickening. "The last time they will ever play against each other". Like that matters. It would only matter to me if they were big time rivals and one was retiring. Jordan/Ewing level. Otherwise fuck off Wade

But someone said earlier best case to lose a close one with Frankie and Knox playing well. We got that but it still sucks ass!

In comment 14216596 MookGiants said:

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but tanking is still the best option, nice to see frank play decently well and knox step up at the end, nice to see the effort to come back down 22. Why the fuck are Jazz fans giving Dwayne Wade a standing ovation. Wade's a great player but he's also the mastermind behind the NBA being more exciting in the off-season than the entire regular season and playoffs. Fuck him. And while a great player he's not an all time great. These standing ovations are nauseating. The LeBron/Wade lovefest the other night was sickening. "The last time they will ever play against each other". Like that matters. It would only matter to me if they were big time rivals and one was retiring. Jordan/Ewing level. Otherwise fuck off Wade

wade is absolutely an all time great and a future hall of famer

If Mudiay makes that contested shot, Cavs have the ball with a lot of time left and can set up a play during a timeout. I'd rather have the final shot where I can plan a good look and not give them an opportunity to get the ball back.

with Hardaway and Kanter getting major minutes. They are NOT winning players. The sooner they are off this team the better.

And one more year of experience to this team, add in another lottery pick coming, that team would be a lot of fun long term. KP is one great player. Max slot available for another. Lotto pick coming summer 19.... could be nice.

Any chance kawhi Leonard comes to the Knicks? Is he all but locked in to Lebron in LA?

In comment 14216601 Anakim said:

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If Mudiay makes that contested shot, Cavs have the ball with a lot of time left and can set up a play during a timeout. I'd rather have the final shot where I can plan a good look and not give them an opportunity to get the ball back.

not 1 single team in the entire nba would play it out like that..

and thr shot was fine, he drew the foul and the refs swallowed their wjistle

In comment 14216603 djm said:

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And one more year of experience to this team, add in another lottery pick coming, that team would be a lot of fun long term. KP is one great player. Max slot available for another. Lotto pick coming summer 19.... could be nice. Any chance kawhi Leonard comes to the Knicks? Is he all but locked in to Lebron in LA?

kawhi going to the clippers

In comment 14216605 nygiants16 said:

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In comment 14216601 Anakim said: Quote: If Mudiay makes that contested shot, Cavs have the ball with a lot of time left and can set up a play during a timeout. I'd rather have the final shot where I can plan a good look and not give them an opportunity to get the ball back. not 1 single team in the entire nba would play it out like that.. and thr shot was fine, he drew the foul and the refs swallowed their wjistle

Bullshit. I'd rather have the game in my hand than the other team's.


And yeah, it was a foul, but it was a crappy shot. It was contested and not a good look at all.

In comment 14216599 nygiants16 said:

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In comment 14216596 MookGiants said: Quote: but tanking is still the best option, nice to see frank play decently well and knox step up at the end, nice to see the effort to come back down 22. Why the fuck are Jazz fans giving Dwayne Wade a standing ovation. Wade's a great player but he's also the mastermind behind the NBA being more exciting in the off-season than the entire regular season and playoffs. Fuck him. And while a great player he's not an all time great. These standing ovations are nauseating. The LeBron/Wade lovefest the other night was sickening. "The last time they will ever play against each other". Like that matters. It would only matter to me if they were big time rivals and one was retiring. Jordan/Ewing level. Otherwise fuck off Wade wade is absolutely an all time great and a future hall of famer

He's a great player. But I dont remember Scottie Pippen getting this type of reception. Jordan, Kobe, LeBron, guys like that deserve it. Not Wade.

Future hall of famer means nothing to me. He's a great player. But in Salt Lake City Utah he just got a standing ovation. He helped ruin the NBA for a lot of cities. Fuck him.

In comment 14216608 Anakim said:

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In comment 14216605 nygiants16 said: Quote: In comment 14216601 Anakim said: Quote: If Mudiay makes that contested shot, Cavs have the ball with a lot of time left and can set up a play during a timeout. I'd rather have the final shot where I can plan a good look and not give them an opportunity to get the ball back. not 1 single team in the entire nba would play it out like that.. and thr shot was fine, he drew the foul and the refs swallowed their wjistle Bullshit. I'd rather have the game in my hand than the other team's. And yeah, it was a foul, but it was a crappy shot. It was contested and not a good look at all.

there was no one in front him he had a clean look..

and again you are wrong, you do not run the clock down dowj 1

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In comment 14216610 nygiants16 said:

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In comment 14216608 Anakim said: Quote: In comment 14216605 nygiants16 said: Quote: In comment 14216601 Anakim said: Quote: If Mudiay makes that contested shot, Cavs have the ball with a lot of time left and can set up a play during a timeout. I'd rather have the final shot where I can plan a good look and not give them an opportunity to get the ball back. not 1 single team in the entire nba would play it out like that.. and thr shot was fine, he drew the foul and the refs swallowed their wjistle Bullshit. I'd rather have the game in my hand than the other team's. And yeah, it was a foul, but it was a crappy shot. It was contested and not a good look at all. there was no one in front him he had a clean look.. and again you are wrong, you do not run the clock down dowj 1

For one final shot, of course you do. You have what? 16 seconds left? Kill some time. Get a better looking shot. He did get fouled by Dellavadipshit, but Nance was also right in front of him.

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Mudiay went way too fast there. Can argue he was fouled by Delly, but still an odd choice. Missed shot forced Knicks to foul, now down three.

In comment 14216615 Anakim said:

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Kurt Helin ‏ @basketballtalk Mudiay went way too fast there. Can argue he was fouled by Delly, but still an odd choice. Missed shot forced Knicks to foul, now down three.

so again you would rather miss and lose then miss and extend the game?

Obviously a great player but not someone who warrants some special farewell tour. To the extent that he is really remembered in NBA history it will be because of his friendship with LeBron and that Big Three Miami team.

I had the same reaction the other day when Wade and LeBron were facing each other for the last time - who cares really? I get they are friends and are both very good but LeBron is a top five all time player and Wade is considerably less than that. Hardly Bird and Magic facing off for the last time.

let Kanter expire, resign vonleh and maybe mudiay, try and trade hardaway and lee..

Fill the rest of the roster with more reclamation projects..

mudiay/frank
Barrett/dotson
Knox
KP
Vonleh/Robinson

Let the young guys grow

I don�t want Kemba or Kyrie for example, but if they can land Durant or Kawhi then just do it and figure the rest out. You can�t say no to players like that.

I don�t think they�ll have a real shot at either, but if they do they can�t pass it up.

but I think the Knicks would sign him if he's receptive.

He's going to be eligible for the super max, and paying a small guard that will be on the wrong side of 30 for most of the contract is a terrible decision.

I would give the max to KD or Kawhi for sure. I could probably be talked into Kyrie because he is younger than Kemba, but he also comes with more injury risk.

No shot at Durant and Kawhi...

We're three games "up" on the Nets for fifth worst record in the league - Nets and Wizards have roughly the same record, and from there it's all teams hovering around .500 or above. At the very least, we'll be drafting a few slots higher than usual. Our January schedule is brutal.

In comment 14216671 bceagle05 said:

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We're three games "up" on the Nets for fifth worst record in the league - Nets and Wizards have roughly the same record, and from there it's all teams hovering around .500 or above. At the very least, we'll be drafting a few slots higher than usual. Our January schedule is brutal.

all depends when KP comes back..

on their way home, and they both agreed offense should of ran through knox rather than tim

In comment 14216694 bceagle05 said:

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Was probably the first time I fist pumped during a Knick game in maybe 5 years.

And it�s not because I think he is a terrible player I actually think he can be a key 3rd or 4th piece ina contender. He is just delaying this whole knicks development. I don�t like Kanter either but they just do not have another tough guys down low and Robinson cannot play 30 plus minutes physically. I would like to see starting line up the rest of the way of:

PG - Frank
SG - Dotson
SF - Knox
PF Vonleh
C - Robinson

Rotation players off bench
Mudiay
Burke
Trier
Kanter

Lee and hardaway have to be traded away.

That�s it I don�t need to see anyone else. When Zinger comes back Robinson goes to bench and Kanter gets bought out unless another team has other expirings to send back

with this group, that young group with kp that finished the nets game is going to be fun to watch..

Their best 5 offensively/defensively would probably be..Frank, Dot, Knox, Vonleh, KP..

Knox/Kp screen and roll, the spacing on the court..damn

player this year. Certainly good enough to be the second best player on a contender.

Adding Kemba and a top 5 pick would set the Knicks up to be really good for a while. Even if they were a little short of a title team right away, they'd be good enough to be a really desirable situation to attract other talent. If the top 5 pick or Knox turned into an all-star, they'd be right up there with Philly or Boston.

Adding Kemba would be the worst thing a team like the Knicks can do. Hes gonna be 30 looking for a huge deal. Plus, for how "good" he is.... he still has them near the bottom of the the East and has never really raised them to anything but a bottom playoff team in the East at best.

shooting 43% from the floor and 35% from downtown are hardly anything to write home about....

The best player on an average team sometimes isnt everything.

Summer league. Two blocks too and he's showing some good rebounding ability too. Love it.

43 minutes from Hardaway last night? Dotson deserves more mins. And I still hate watching Mudiay. He's only interested in his getting his own shot off...and he's simply not good enough to play that way. Frank is a work in progress, but the ball just seems to move around more when he's out there.

no Kemba. No Wall. I don't want any all-star players around 30 lookin to get a big deal. Do we want another Melo like situation on our hands?

Durant is a different story.

ron baker going to be released

In comment 14216857 dep026 said:

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Adding Kemba would be the worst thing a team like the Knicks can do. Hes gonna be 30 looking for a huge deal. Plus, for how "good" he is.... he still has them near the bottom of the the East and has never really raised them to anything but a bottom playoff team in the East at best.

Who's the 2nd best player on the Hornets? Kemba is a great player. I would be happy to have him on the Knicks.

Zion or RJ Barrett you should be happy they lost the game last night.

In comment 14216972 TyreeHelmet said:

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In comment 14216857 dep026 said: Quote: Adding Kemba would be the worst thing a team like the Knicks can do. Hes gonna be 30 looking for a huge deal. Plus, for how "good" he is.... he still has them near the bottom of the the East and has never really raised them to anything but a bottom playoff team in the East at best. Who's the 2nd best player on the Hornets? Kemba is a great player. I would be happy to have him on the Knicks.

Why does it matter? He has now become a volume shooter. He doesnt distribute the ball well enough for someone who always has the ball. He doesnt shoot a high percentage. His 3 point shooting has gone done from the last few years.

Right now, his best attritubute is he gets to the line and makes free throws. People really overrate this guy. Plus he will be 30 next year looking for major bucks. Hes a number 4 on a championship team, IMO.

It matters because that team is complete garbage and he wins with them and that matters. His shooting % and assists would go up with a better team. His 2nd best player right now is a rookie. Dragging that team to 14-13 is an accomplishment.

Cap space is nice to have. But so is having an all nba point guard you got without giving up any talent.

In comment 14217074 TyreeHelmet said:

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It matters because that team is complete garbage and he wins with them and that matters. His shooting % and assists would go up with a better team. His 2nd best player right now is a rookie. Dragging that team to 14-13 is an accomplishment. Cap space is nice to have. But so is having an all nba point guard you got without giving up any talent.

Theres a lot of speculation in your opinion. With better talent, his scoring goes way down as well. Walker is barely a top 10 PG in the NBA if at all. He shouldnt even be in discussions for an All-NBA team.