NFT: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame 2019

And still, no Warren Zevon.

I wish I could understand that. I cannot.

In comment 14216812 Beezer said:

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And still, no Warren Zevon. I wish I could understand that. I cannot.

Because it is a fucking joke that shouldn't be taken seriously.

than Rage Against the Machine. And they dont get in.F the hall. What about Iron Maiden, Priest, ELP. Again its a good ole boys club.

but every time I see these inductee lists, I more and more get the feeling that it's a bit of a low bar...

I can't say I have ever heard of Roxy Music.

I'll be the first to tell you I'm not a huge music buff, but I'd like to think I should have heard of most hall of fame inductees.

Roxy Music = Harold Baines?

(I do really like The Cure, really glad to see that)

Flame away.

Def Leppard, The Cure, Janet Jackson, Stevie Nicks

Not so sure about the others.

Roxy Music would be more like an old time player with a crazy WAR, that many don't remember.

They were successful, but are widely considered the most influential band of their generation.

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are widely considered the most influential band of their generation.

Is this really true? I've never held my music knowledge in high esteem, but it may be much worse than I thought.

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Def Leppard 547,647
Stevie Nicks 427,844
Todd Rundgren 365,370
The Zombies, 329,052
The Cure, 264,443
Janet Jackson 218,581
Devo, 186,754
Roxy Music, 167,307
Rage Against The Machine 148,208
Radiohead 140,458
John Prine, 136,746
LL Cool J, 119,657
Rufus featuring Chaka Khan, 99,724
Kraftwerk, 87,456
MC5, 85,304

Of those bands, the only ones I really care about are Rage, MC5, Stevie, and Def Lepp. Maybe Radiohead.

Maiden should have been in a LONG time ago.

do enough outside Fleetwood Mac to warrant induction?

In comment 14216850 bigbluehoya said:

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In comment 14216833 christian said: Quote: are widely considered the most influential band of their generation. Is this really true? I've never held my music knowledge in high esteem, but it may be much worse than I thought.

Bryan Ferry and Brian Eno's influence on the musical landscape of the 70s and 80s definitely outsize the commercial success of Roxy Music. You can hear their influence across the entire musical spectrum of those decades, from glam to punk to new wave.

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do enough outside Fleetwood Mac to warrant induction?

I was about to post the same thing. She had a few nice pop hits but nothing all that great IMO.

Rage
Roxy
Devo

All three are HIGHLY influential bands. All three basically created genres by themselves.

Stevie Nicks is the most overrated solo artist ever. She got in by name. She has written some good songs, but come on. If you are going by songs, John Prine has written better. And HE is endorsed by Dylan!!

Def Lep.. I love and still listen to High N Dry, Pyromania. But I agree... bar is low.

In comment 14216871 Enzo said:

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do enough outside Fleetwood Mac to warrant induction?

She DID do enough.... coke. Her persona got her in. Her persona created by amazing Buckingham songs. Not taking away the songs she wrote... but let's be honest here. Landslide and Gold Dust Woman should not stamp your ticket to Cleveland.

...great, groundbreaking band and yes, massively influential.

In comment 14216819 bigbluehoya said:

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but every time I see these inductee lists, I more and more get the feeling that it's a bit of a low bar... I can't say I have ever heard of Roxy Music. I'll be the first to tell you I'm not a huge music buff, but I'd like to think I should have heard of most hall of fame inductees. Roxy Music = Harold Baines? (I do really like The Cure, really glad to see that) Flame away.

Not flaming but most definitely NOT = Harold Baines.

You should listen to some of their music including Bryan Ferry's solo stuff. May not be for you but you decide.

I actually thought they were in already.

and Eno, either as individuals or as part of a group most definitely deserve induction.

They touched all parts of the music industry from performing to producing.

Roxy music tracks, what would you guys recommend? I'm talking 2-3 songs, there's no chance of me committing an hour to an album or an entire greatest hits if I don't like the appetizer first...

In comment 14216863 Tim in JTown said:

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Def Leppard 547,647 Stevie Nicks 427,844 Todd Rundgren 365,370 The Zombies, 329,052 The Cure, 264,443 Janet Jackson 218,581 Devo, 186,754 Roxy Music, 167,307 Rage Against The Machine 148,208 Radiohead 140,458 John Prine, 136,746 LL Cool J, 119,657 Rufus featuring Chaka Khan, 99,724 Kraftwerk, 87,456 MC5, 85,304 Of those bands, the only ones I really care about are Rage, MC5, Stevie, and Def Lepp. Maybe Radiohead. Maiden should have been in a LONG time ago.

It's funny that the two lowest on the vote list two of the most influential in popular musical sub-genres. MC5 was arguably the first punk rock band and Kraftwerk were pioneers in electronic music.

In comment 14216898 bigbluehoya said:

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Roxy music tracks, what would you guys recommend? I'm talking 2-3 songs, there's no chance of me committing an hour to an album or an entire greatest hits if I don't like the appetizer first...

That's tough. Very polarizing band. I LOVE the music on Avalon. My wife hates when I put it on.

Songs: Avalon and More than This on that album got play.

RATM........F that place

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In comment 14216863 Tim in JTown said: Quote: Def Leppard 547,647 Stevie Nicks 427,844 Todd Rundgren 365,370 The Zombies, 329,052 The Cure, 264,443 Janet Jackson 218,581 Devo, 186,754 Roxy Music, 167,307 Rage Against The Machine 148,208 Radiohead 140,458 John Prine, 136,746 LL Cool J, 119,657 Rufus featuring Chaka Khan, 99,724 Kraftwerk, 87,456 MC5, 85,304 Of those bands, the only ones I really care about are Rage, MC5, Stevie, and Def Lepp. Maybe Radiohead. Maiden should have been in a LONG time ago. It's funny that the two lowest on the vote list two of the most influential in popular musical sub-genres. MC5 was arguably the first punk rock band and Kraftwerk were pioneers in electronic music.

Dont forget Devo!!!!

and "More than This" are probably Roxy's most commercially known songs, but they had a lot of hits in the UK.

Most US listeners probably weren't aware of Roxy's stuff in the early and mid-70's and only know of the MTV videos songs in the early 80's.

In comment 14216883 feelflows said:

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In comment 14216871 Enzo said: Quote: do enough outside Fleetwood Mac to warrant induction? She DID do enough.... coke. Her persona got her in. Her persona created by amazing Buckingham songs. Not taking away the songs she wrote... but let's be honest here. Landslide and Gold Dust Woman should not stamp your ticket to Cleveland.

And Landslide and Gold Dust Woman are both Fleetwood Mac songs (that she sings, of course) but the band has already been inducted.

In comment 14216905 viggie said:

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RATM........F that place

Devo were HUGE influencers in both new artists and OLD. Even Neil Young changed his sound due to their influence.

Not just new wave, but alt rock to this day. Wilco, for example.

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In comment 14216883 feelflows said: Quote: In comment 14216871 Enzo said: Quote: do enough outside Fleetwood Mac to warrant induction? She DID do enough.... coke. Her persona got her in. Her persona created by amazing Buckingham songs. Not taking away the songs she wrote... but let's be honest here. Landslide and Gold Dust Woman should not stamp your ticket to Cleveland. And Landslide and Gold Dust Woman are both Fleetwood Mac songs (that she sings, of course) but the band has already been inducted.

Yep. Silly induction.

thanks. will check 'em out.

In comment 14216908 FatMan in Charlotte said:

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and "More than This" are probably Roxy's most commercially known songs, but they had a lot of hits in the UK. Most US listeners probably weren't aware of Roxy's stuff in the early and mid-70's and only know of the MTV videos songs in the early 80's.

"Country Life" is a phenomenal early album.

even on a list of possibles to vote for, by whomever it is that votes?

Incredible.

In comment 14216924 Beezer said:

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even on a list of possibles to vote for, by whomever it is that votes? Incredible.

He must have insulted that bitch, Jan Wenner.

The right title for this institution. A better one is RnR museum. The Zombies had a few catchy tunes but who considers them a great band by any measure?

that Roxy's music really spans a lot of different genres:

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Fats / Feelsy bigbluehoya : 9:44 am : link : reply thanks. will check 'em out.

The 80's stuff was more pop-ish or new wave, but Roxy started in the glam rock, art rock era.

And when Ferry was doing solo stuff, he did some really unique things, including releasing an album that was reworks of songs from the big band era.

Truly a musician in that sense.

In comment 14216931 FatMan in Charlotte said:

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that Roxy's music really spans a lot of different genres: Quote: Fats / Feelsy bigbluehoya : 9:44 am : link : reply thanks. will check 'em out. The 80's stuff was more pop-ish or new wave, but Roxy started in the glam rock, art rock era. And when Ferry was doing solo stuff, he did some really unique things, including releasing an album that was reworks of songs from the big band era. Truly a musician in that sense.

I actually love his Dylan cover album. Very well done.

In comment 14216908 FatMan in Charlotte said:

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and "More than This" are probably Roxy's most commercially known songs, but they had a lot of hits in the UK. Most US listeners probably weren't aware of Roxy's stuff in the early and mid-70's and only know of the MTV videos songs in the early 80's.

I would add Ferry's Boys and Girls solo album. Preview all the songs on Itunes if you have the time.

...her compilations with Tom Petty also had an impact.

I believe as an individual, her work with Fleetwood Mac is taken into consideration here, because of what she represented artistically, a truly unique talent - there's no one else like her, and in a big-dick-guitar heavy era that featured few female artists, she was a huge icon, in or out of Fleetwood Mac. A great singer/songwriter with unique and dramatic stage presence, she penned and recorded some really beautiful songs - 'Sara' will forever be a personal favorite - while she may not have a catalog packed with top-40 hits, her impact is significant, and worthy of induction, IMO.

Not saying they should be in, but they are the most underappreciated band on that list.

Listen to Kick Out The Jams. That's 1969. NOBODY sounded like that in 1969.

84k votes? Silly.

Missed them on the list.

And is there a reason why Todd Rundgren received so many votes but didn't get in? Did he refuse or something?

is an absolute joke .

stock in who is in and who isn't. When I went to the R&R Hall of Fame there was a special section for country music performers. WTF? Don't they have their own Hall of Fame?

In comment 14216940 feelflows said:

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Not saying they should be in, but they are the most underappreciated band on that list. Listen to Kick Out The Jams. That's 1969. NOBODY sounded like that in 1969. 84k votes? Silly.

Absolutely. They were around a good 4-5 years before The Ramones, Sex Pistols, etc. CBGBs didn't even open until '73 and was a country music bar at first. A man named James Osterberg saw an MC5 concert and then decided to call himself Iggy Pop.

Love them or hate them, they belong in the rrhof.

...one of the most under-rated British Invasion rock groups.

They were one of the key progenitors of psychedelic rock and had three signature songs that were emblematic of the entire 1960s rock scene:

"She's Not There"
"Tell Her No"
"Time of the Season"

What took the R&R Hall of Fame so long?

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Love them or hate them, they belong in the rrhof.

Hear him!

Their Aqualung album is top notch with several breakthrough hits!

They belong!!!

Def Leppard but no Devo or Pixies??

Doobie Brothers
The Smiths
The Pixies
Bad Company
Ronnie James Dio
Motley Crue
King Crimson
Faith No More
The Guess Who
Megadeth
Sammy Hagar
Pantera
Fucking Ozzy!!!
NIN
Soundgarden
Fucking Motorhead!!!
And have I mentioned ... Warren?
Joe Walsh hates the Hall of Fame - ( New Window )

will be her first one.

What a joke the Hall of Fame is...

In comment 14216897 FatMan in Charlotte said:

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and Eno, either as individuals or as part of a group most definitely deserve induction. They touched all parts of the music industry from performing to producing.

Jesus, FatMan, you just brought a tear to me eye.

I am a huge, lifelong U2 fan and Eno has been an great influence (and Lanois) on their music since The Unforgettable Fire. So I've grown very fond of him over the years.

As I'm sure you know he's been involved with Bowie, Coldplay, Talking Heads, Devo, etc over his illustrious career. Definitely someone who deserves HoF recognition.

Nine inch nails not in ?

might explain the origin of our disputes!!

U2!!

In comment 14217080 Beezer said:

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Doobie Brothers The Smiths The Pixies Bad Company Ronnie James Dio Motley Crue King Crimson Faith No More The Guess Who Megadeth Sammy Hagar Pantera Fucking Ozzy!!! NIN Soundgarden Fucking Motorhead!!! And have I mentioned ... Warren? Joe Walsh hates the Hall of Fame - ( New Window )

Wow....seeing all those bands grouped together like that makes you realize what a joke the "ROCK AND ROLL" HOF really is. Pretty obvious that any Hard Rock band is going to struggle to be admitted. And no, im not putting Def Leppard in that category. They arent being admitted for "High N Dry"; they are being admitted for their more Pop leaning works of the later 80's. But I dont have a problem with them at all, really. Same with the Cure-for me, they are in based on Disintegration alone, one of my favorite albums ever. When I was 15 I thought Stevie Nicks was a rock goddess, so not gonna fight that one too much. Radiohead....I know everyone loves them. I just dont get it. I try to listen to them and they just dont move me. But yeah...I do recognize they are loved by most. So OK. Zombies-loved Time of the Season, Tell Her No and Shes Not There. Couldnt name another song. And Janet Jackson....no comment necessary other than when the aliens come to earth and we need to explain what rock and roll is, are we gonna play the bands on this list....or Janet Friggin Jackson?????

not that my opinion is worth anything...

Doobie Brothers - I think so? Makes sense. So many good albums. And they were on What's Happenin' for Godssake
The Smiths - 3 years, 4 great albums. Shame they're not in.
The Pixies - HUGE SNUB
Bad Company - Love the band, and Free. I don't think there's enough there.
Ronnie James Dio - Did he get inducted with Sabbath? Not sure Dio as a band should be in.. neither is Rainbow.
Motley Crue - A couple of great albums, but not hall worthy
King Crimson - I didn't realize they weren't in. Too avante guard for the RRHOF snobs?
Faith No More - Patton should have a shrine there.
The Guess Who - Not hall worthy.
Megadeth - SHIT YES. Ask any REAL metal band who their influence is.. hint, it's NOT Metallica.
Sammy Hagar - I don't see it. He's in with VH. Montrose was good, but not hall worthy. Solo? I don't see it.
Pantera - Yes yes and yes.
Fucking Ozzy!!! - Interesting. Those first two solo albums are beyond classic. That alone should have him in, I think? There's a lot of crap after that haha
NIN - Yep
Soundgarden - That whole era needs to be re-evaluated. AIC?
Fucking Motorhead!!! - Yes. Fucking Motorhead.
And have I mentioned ... Warren?

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not that my opinion is worth anything... Doobie Brothers - I think so? Makes sense. So many good albums. And they were on What's Happenin' for Godssake The Smiths - 3 years, 4 great albums. Shame they're not in. The Pixies - HUGE SNUB Bad Company - Love the band, and Free. I don't think there's enough there. Ronnie James Dio - Did he get inducted with Sabbath? Not sure Dio as a band should be in.. neither is Rainbow. Motley Crue - A couple of great albums, but not hall worthy King Crimson - I didn't realize they weren't in. Too avante guard for the RRHOF snobs? Faith No More - Patton should have a shrine there. The Guess Who - Not hall worthy. Megadeth - SHIT YES. Ask any REAL metal band who their influence is.. hint, it's NOT Metallica. Sammy Hagar - I don't see it. He's in with VH. Montrose was good, but not hall worthy. Solo? I don't see it. Pantera - Yes yes and yes. Fucking Ozzy!!! - Interesting. Those first two solo albums are beyond classic. That alone should have him in, I think? There's a lot of crap after that haha NIN - Yep Soundgarden - That whole era needs to be re-evaluated. AIC? Fucking Motorhead!!! - Yes. Fucking Motorhead. And have I mentioned ... Warren?

Which Doobie You be?

In comment 14216937 x meadowlander said:

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...her compilations with Tom Petty also had an impact. I believe as an individual, her work with Fleetwood Mac is taken into consideration here, because of what she represented artistically, a truly unique talent - there's no one else like her, and in a big-dick-guitar heavy era that featured few female artists, she was a huge icon, in or out of Fleetwood Mac. A great singer/songwriter with unique and dramatic stage presence, she penned and recorded some really beautiful songs - 'Sara' will forever be a personal favorite - while she may not have a catalog packed with top-40 hits, her impact is significant, and worthy of induction, IMO.

I see your point, but don't agree. Keith Richards is the poster child for rock n roll. His impact is beyond significant. He has written more amazing riffs than most of the world combined.

He is in the RRHOF as a member of the Rolling Stones. That's where he belongs.

His solo album is better than ANY Stones album after Exile (including Some Girls, Tattoo You).. but a great string of songs doesn't make one worthy.

Nick's is a great/iconic lead singer for a legendary band.. and she was recognized as such by being inducted with them. Her solo accomplishments shouldn't have been enough to get her in.

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In comment 14217175 feelflows said: Quote: not that my opinion is worth anything... Doobie Brothers - I think so? Makes sense. So many good albums. And they were on What's Happenin' for Godssake The Smiths - 3 years, 4 great albums. Shame they're not in. The Pixies - HUGE SNUB Bad Company - Love the band, and Free. I don't think there's enough there. Ronnie James Dio - Did he get inducted with Sabbath? Not sure Dio as a band should be in.. neither is Rainbow. Motley Crue - A couple of great albums, but not hall worthy King Crimson - I didn't realize they weren't in. Too avante guard for the RRHOF snobs? Faith No More - Patton should have a shrine there. The Guess Who - Not hall worthy. Megadeth - SHIT YES. Ask any REAL metal band who their influence is.. hint, it's NOT Metallica. Sammy Hagar - I don't see it. He's in with VH. Montrose was good, but not hall worthy. Solo? I don't see it. Pantera - Yes yes and yes. Fucking Ozzy!!! - Interesting. Those first two solo albums are beyond classic. That alone should have him in, I think? There's a lot of crap after that haha NIN - Yep Soundgarden - That whole era needs to be re-evaluated. AIC? Fucking Motorhead!!! - Yes. Fucking Motorhead. And have I mentioned ... Warren? Which Doobie You be?

one of the best lines on television EVER

In comment 14216819 bigbluehoya said:

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but every time I see these inductee lists, I more and more get the feeling that it's a bit of a low bar... I can't say I have ever heard of Roxy Music. I'll be the first to tell you I'm not a huge music buff, but I'd like to think I should have heard of most hall of fame inductees. Roxy Music = Harold Baines? (I do really like The Cure, really glad to see that) Flame away.

I'm a pretty big fan of Roxy Music and think they deserve the HOF. They may have been before your time, but I believe they were very influential on a lot of bands, especially of the 80s.

In fact, I would say there were multiple bands that borrowed, almost even stole their sound and ended up with bigger commercial success, e.g., The Fixx, Talk Talk, Flock of Seagulls, et al.

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Roxy Music was a British band.

In comment 14216937 x meadowlander said:

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...her compilations with Tom Petty also had an impact. I believe as an individual, her work with Fleetwood Mac is taken into consideration here, because of what she represented artistically, a truly unique talent

huh?

Outside the band she has a tiny body of work. There's no logical reason to include her as a solo artist.

but left pretty early on as Bryan Ferry took more of the lead.

Eno was very involved on some great songs by others including my favorite David Bowie song, Heroes.

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will be her first one. What a joke the Hall of Fame is...

Considering R&B/Soul/Pop (Janet's Genre) music derived from Rock & Roll I say she belongs there. 10 #1 hits, 28 top ten hits, and 100 million sold. Her resume is very worthy. Whether you like her music or not isn't the measuring stick.

Still a lot of better candidates not making it.

Btw, beyond her work with Fleetwood Mac, and her monster Bella Donna album - which featured most sessions legends, she also, more than any other major artitst I can think of, sang on a lot of other artists' albums, singles and supported them on stage in concerts. Both with and without Mac, she didn't just write some big songs, she wrote some monster hits - the kind that have movies named after them, So I think she absolutely belongs.

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In comment 14217093 Post Time said: Quote: will be her first one. What a joke the Hall of Fame is... Considering R&B/Soul/Pop (Janet's Genre) music derived from Rock & Roll I say she belongs there. 10 #1 hits, 28 top ten hits, and 100 million sold. Her resume is very worthy. Whether you like her music or not isn't the measuring stick.

Mariah has 18 #1 hits. Mariah 2020!! Let's make it happen!!!

In comment 14216898 bigbluehoya said:

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Roxy music tracks, what would you guys recommend? I'm talking 2-3 songs, there's no chance of me committing an hour to an album or an entire greatest hits if I don't like the appetizer first...

Depending on your tastes, Roxy Music might not be for you. I would say they're an acquired taste.

I don't know the best way to describe them, they're definitely not hard rock, but they're not soft rock either.

In addition to songs already mentioned like More Than This, some others: Out of the Blue, Take a Chance, Oh Yeah, Let's Stay Together.

Link is Out of the Blue - live. Watch through the end to get an idea of their musical talents.
Out of The Blue - live - ( New Window )

of eligibility

Dave Matthews Band
Beck
Outkast
Snoop Dogg
The Roots
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I know a lot of people hate Dave Matthews Band for a variety of valid-to-stupid reasons. But I can't believe they didn't even get nominated in year one.

Biggest touring act of the 2000s, huge album sales (7 straight albums debuting at #1), Tons of philanthropy, awesome relationship with fans. Tremendous musicianship.

In terms of musicianship, they have one of the best drummers alive in Carter Beauford. They combine African beats and world music with acoustic/electric rock, bluegrass, and jazz. Not many bands feature an electric violin and a sax, and later. Plus, their live shows feature long solos, constant improvisation. Bands that sound better live than in the studio have a ton of respect in my book.

And their versatility and talents have enabled them to play with a wide variety of other great artists like: Santana, Al Green, Buddy Guy, Allman Brothers, Dylan, Bowie, Paul Simon, Neil Young, The Roots, Stevie Wonder, Tom Morello, Willie Nelson, Eddie Vedder, and Trombone Shorty.

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In comment 14216898 bigbluehoya said: Quote: Roxy music tracks, what would you guys recommend? I'm talking 2-3 songs, there's no chance of me committing an hour to an album or an entire greatest hits if I don't like the appetizer first... Depending on your tastes, Roxy Music might not be for you. I would say they're an acquired taste. I don't know the best way to describe them, they're definitely not hard rock, but they're not soft rock either. In addition to songs already mentioned like More Than This, some others: Out of the Blue, Take a Chance, Oh Yeah, Let's Stay Together. Link is Out of the Blue - live. Watch through the end to get an idea of their musical talents. Out of The Blue - live - ( New Window )

I gave them a little 15 minute run on Spotify earlier. Not my cup of tea. Usually I can see the appeal even in music I don't personally enjoy, but I actually found it quite boring.

Given the tiny chance I gave it, I'll gladly defer to the rest of the group and admit that my Harold Baines comparison was unfounded.

Notheless, I'm thankful for everyone edifying me this morning about who they are and the credit they get in the industry. I learned something.

is up there with almost any female artist ever in terms of influencing a generation of artists.

"Rock and Roll" is a stupid term for this Hall of Fame and has been from the beginning. Were the Supremes, Smokey Robinson, and Simon and Garfunkel really "rock and roll"?

Rock and Roll evolved from R&B and now Hip Hop/R&B is the new rock and roll. Music tastes change, genres bend and blur.

As far as that list goes I am sure Jimmy Buffett has sold more concert tickets then all of them combined. Since when is Janet Jackson Rock and Roll.

The "Rock and Roll" in Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is simply part of a brand name at this point and has been for a while. Like it or not, it is no longer a style requirement of the bands/artists/pop stars it recognizes.

not get in? And why wasn't he added a long, long time ago?

That is very strange to me. TR had some brilliant work.

at this point. It stopped being a Rock n Roll Hall of Fame a long times ago.

Mariah
Garth
Yanni
Snow

In comment 14216818 viggie said:

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than Rage Against the Machine. And they dont get in.F the hall. What about Iron Maiden, Priest, ELP. Again its a good ole boys club.

One got in: Radiohead.

but they just don't do it for me. Maybe I haven't found that one song that would unlock their appeal, but for the most part, their vocals just don't agree with me. The singing generally sounds like it's making fun of something.

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Love them or hate them, they belong in the rrhof.

No Jethro Tull? The thing is fixed! Or deaf. Don't follow this much these days (into classical guitar now), but really!

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at this point. It stopped being a Rock n Roll Hall of Fame a long times ago.

What music is Rock & Roll to you? I think they're using the term as in mainstream. Most of the pop music/r&b music/metal/etc has it's roots in the original rock & roll.

The first album was great. The second was good, but a bit redundant. The rest was repetitive shit and they became completely irrelevant. I like RATM, but they are not HOF worthy due to not doing it long enough or being consistent. They were influential, but not nearly as much as people think when you really look at it.

Now Faith No More is a band that is getting a short end of the stick...

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Rage Roxy Devo All three are HIGHLY influential bands. All three basically created genres by themselves. Stevie Nicks is the most overrated solo artist ever. She got in by name. She has written some good songs, but come on. If you are going by songs, John Prine has written better. And HE is endorsed by Dylan!! Def Lep.. I love and still listen to High N Dry, Pyromania. But I agree... bar is low.

same with Kraftwerk. way more so than Rage against the machine.

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In comment 14216878 feelflows said: Quote: Rage Roxy Devo All three are HIGHLY influential bands. All three basically created genres by themselves. Stevie Nicks is the most overrated solo artist ever. She got in by name. She has written some good songs, but come on. If you are going by songs, John Prine has written better. And HE is endorsed by Dylan!! Def Lep.. I love and still listen to High N Dry, Pyromania. But I agree... bar is low. same with Kraftwerk. way more so than Rage against the machine.

absolutely.. oversight on my part.

I still haven't found what you're looking for.

I think that her status is very tricky. Yes, her best work was with Fleetwood Mack, and yes, many of her best songs were written by Buckingham, but she was also an artist in her own right, as part of the band and on her own.

She created a female sound, as part of FM and on her own that is pretty much unique in the history of Rock--if you disagree, who sounds similar? In a REAL R and R Hall of Fame, if we had one, artistic creativity would matter. And she had that. How many lead singers--even in groups with multiple leads like FM--were as capable as Nicks of creating a unique artistic persona? I find almost none, but I like hers more than a lot of people, I am aware.

why the fuck are you looking for something regarding me??? What the hell! How dare you look for a single thing.

This kind of flippancy enrages me at the very core, that a person would take it upon themselves to look as if I don't have two fucking eyes! You insulting pig!!

Next time, just ask how deep my love is......:)

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but they just don't do it for me. Maybe I haven't found that one song that would unlock their appeal, but for the most part, their vocals just don't agree with me. The singing generally sounds like it's making fun of something.

Have you listened to Out of The Blue? (live version linked above)

In comment 14216841 sjnyfan said:

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There are many non-American bands in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Strange comment

These bands/artists belong:

Jethro Tull
Warren Zevon
Todd Rundgren

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Now Faith No More is a band that is getting a short end of the stick...

vonritz bringing it, as always.

If Rundgren got the 3rd highest vote total and didn't get in

… why have a vote???

In comment 14217274 Enzo said:

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In comment 14216937 x meadowlander said: Quote: ...her compilations with Tom Petty also had an impact. I believe as an individual, her work with Fleetwood Mac is taken into consideration here, because of what she represented artistically, a truly unique talent huh? Outside the band she has a tiny body of work. There's no logical reason to include her as a solo artist.

Sure there is. It's because it was a male dominated industry, it's because of her influence and impact as an individual artist, in and out of Fleetwood Mac.

In that band, she became more than just a part of the whole. It was a unique group, in that Buckingham and McVee's songs were complemented by Stevie's backups, but her songs were clearly Stevie Nicks songs, not Fleetwood Mac songs.

It's a unique circumstance - most major acts have one frontman, one focus. Fleetwood Mac requires different analysis and recognition - the unique evolution of that band through Peter Green and Bob Welch to Buckingham/Nicks - an award to Fleetwood Mac as a whole really waters down Stevies contribution to the industry and her impact and influence on so many female artists.

So yeah. She deserves her own nomination.

Complete joke. "Hall of Lame", Maureen Tucker VU....... Got it right.....