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adamg : 12/13/2018 9:54 am
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The New York Knicks and two-way guard Allonzo Trier have agreed to a two-year deal, per league sources on @TheAthleticNBA @WatchStadium. The Knicks are expected to release Ron Baker to create roster space, league sources said.
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Courtney Lee just seems like the most  
Jan in DC : 12/13/2018 11:07 am : link
obvious trade candidate because his contract isn't that outrageous and he's a nice 2 way player. Tim Hardaway Jr if they could figure out a way to trade him I feel like it'd be a minor miracle.
Noah, Hardaway,Baker Contracts  
Samiam : 12/13/2018 11:12 am : link
When you sign someone to a contract, presumably your offer is based on what their worth to you compared what other teams are offering. I cannot figure out how the Knicks signed each of these guys to their amounts considering what they were bidding against
Knicks are making smarter decisions  
mfsd : 12/13/2018 11:13 am : link
lately.
RE: Courtney Lee just seems like the most  
TyreeHelmet : 12/13/2018 11:25 am : link
In comment 14217151 Jan in DC said:
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obvious trade candidate because his contract isn't that outrageous and he's a nice 2 way player. Tim Hardaway Jr if they could figure out a way to trade him I feel like it'd be a minor miracle.


But hes also 33, currently injured, and really not that good of player. His defense is also overrated. He's not a bad defender, but he isn't exactly Tony Allen. He's probably not starting for a good team. I just don't see a team eager to pay a 34 year old Lee 13 million next year...

I could see a team talking themselves into Hardaway. The guy has his flaws which are magnified on this team, but he can score and he's only 26. I just don't think the Knicks will salary dump him yet.

I guess it's just a personal thing  
Jan in DC : 12/13/2018 11:28 am : link
but I think Hardaway's value is in offense only. He is just a shooter. If another team values that and would take that contract, he should definitely be moved. Especially if it meant Durant. He and Porzingas can take the shots that Tim takes now. Not to mention Trier, Frank shooting more, etc.

Maybe I'm undervaluing him though.
Offseason  
TyreeHelmet : 12/13/2018 2:24 pm : link
Anyone else see the article about the Clippers plan to sign Durant and Leonard? They have room for 2 max FAs but I just don't see that. The clippers will always be 2nd fiddle to the Lakers.

I think its Knicks or Warriors for Durant. Is he really going to form another "superteam" with Leonard on the Clippers? Maybe I'm being optimistic...
RE: Offseason  
Enzo : 12/13/2018 2:39 pm : link
In comment 14217559 TyreeHelmet said:
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Anyone else see the article about the Clippers plan to sign Durant and Leonard? They have room for 2 max FAs but I just don't see that. The clippers will always be 2nd fiddle to the Lakers.

I think its Knicks or Warriors for Durant. Is he really going to form another "superteam" with Leonard on the Clippers? Maybe I'm being optimistic...

I think the Clips are a legit threat...given their city and owner. Plus they have Jerry West advising them which doesn't hurt.
saying clippers have 2 max contracts is  
nygiants16 : 12/13/2018 2:44 pm : link
a little bit of a stretch, yea they have that amount of cap space but that means they are letting harris walk...it would basically be durant and kawhi with gallinari
The problem with Hardaway is the trade kicker.  
robbieballs2003 : 12/13/2018 4:18 pm : link
I know some people say his contract isn't terrible now but if he is traded there is language in his contract that increases his salary even higher. That is a tough pill to swallow for any potentially interested team.
Completely agree with waiting to trade  
Oscar : 12/13/2018 4:31 pm : link
Hardaway or Lee. Don’t really need to do it until the summer when you have a verbal commitment from Durant or Kawhi. Otherwise just keep them and move on. There is some slim chance that teams come knocking for either one this season and are willing to make a deal that is favorable for the Knicks but I doubt it.

Most likely scenario is that neither big free agent comes to the Knicks so there is no point in dumping pieces now to clear space.

My only real issue with Hardaway is he takes shots and playing time away from the young guys but as a lead player he kind of sucks which is good for the tank.
Noah  
DanMetroMan : 12/13/2018 4:40 pm : link
is such a fucking scumbag. His quote today made me sick.
RE: Noah  
nygiants16 : 12/13/2018 4:44 pm : link
In comment 14217750 DanMetroMan said:
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is such a fucking scumbag. His quote today made me sick.


and people questioned why the knicks got rid of him before the season started and didnt wait
Since I no longer have to hear anything about Noah  
Greg from LI : 12/13/2018 4:59 pm : link
what did he say?
RE: Since I no longer have to hear anything about Noah  
nygiants16 : 12/13/2018 5:01 pm : link
In comment 14217798 Greg from LI said:
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what did he say?


basically said that he was to lit for new york city and the town is to lit, memphis is smaller so he can be lit withiut anyone really caring...

There were rumors that perry did not want him around the young kids and hahn intimated that noah got to one of the young guys last year, my guess hernangomez
Honestly, I don't even really know what that's supposed to mean  
Greg from LI : 12/13/2018 5:02 pm : link
But since he is gloriously gone, I don't need to!
In normal  
Jon in NYC : 12/13/2018 5:05 pm : link
person speak, Noah would go out and party too much.

Hahn said he used to bring younger players with him too.

Seems like why they needed to keep him away from the team, beyond just benching him.
RE: Honestly, I don't even really know what that's supposed to mean  
DanMetroMan : 12/13/2018 5:08 pm : link
In comment 14217811 Greg from LI said:
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But since he is gloriously gone, I don't need to!


Party hard and couldn't recover like he used to when he was younger and Hahn said it impacted the younger players he took under his wing too.
ah, I see  
Greg from LI : 12/13/2018 5:11 pm : link
A real pro's pro
RE: Noah  
TyreeHelmet : 12/13/2018 6:10 pm : link
In comment 14217750 DanMetroMan said:
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is such a fucking scumbag. His quote today made me sick.


I used to have great respect for this guy too. How about you show some pride in your job? Guy got paid 72 million and didn’t earn one penny of it. And he had the audacity to complain about NY?
RE: Noah  
Enzo : 12/13/2018 6:33 pm : link
In comment 14217750 DanMetroMan said:
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is such a fucking scumbag. His quote today made me sick.

to this day I can't believe Phil thought it was a good idea to surround KP with garbage (on and off the court) like Noah and Rose.
RE: RE: Noah  
DanMetroMan : 12/13/2018 6:35 pm : link
In comment 14217885 TyreeHelmet said:
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is such a fucking scumbag. His quote today made me sick.



I used to have great respect for this guy too. How about you show some pride in your job? Guy got paid 72 million and didn’t earn one penny of it. And he had the audacity to complain about NY?


Same. Seemed like a gamer and a good dude. He may be a "good dude" still but not a professional and clearly he got paid and stop caring.
RE: RE: Noah  
DanMetroMan : 12/13/2018 6:36 pm : link
In comment 14217908 Enzo said:
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is such a fucking scumbag. His quote today made me sick.


to this day I can't believe Phil thought it was a good idea to surround KP with garbage (on and off the court) like Noah and Rose.


Phil didn't know what he was doing. That much is clear.
RE: RE: Noah  
mfsd : 12/13/2018 6:43 pm : link
In comment 14217908 Enzo said:
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is such a fucking scumbag. His quote today made me sick.


to this day I can't believe Phil thought it was a good idea to surround KP with garbage (on and off the court) like Noah and Rose.


And hiring Derek Fisher to coach them
Well, Phil wasn't looking  
bceagle05 : 12/13/2018 7:09 pm : link
for guys who can get triple-doubles or anything - who needs them?
the funny thing is  
nygiants16 : 12/13/2018 7:20 pm : link
people like ramona shelbourne are loving the fact that phil is hanging around the lakers and thinks it will be good for him to help in the front office..

It is amazing how the lakers can do know wrong
I'm sure Lebron and his posse are thrilled.  
bceagle05 : 12/13/2018 7:24 pm : link
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Noah the Party Animal is:  
manh george : 12/13/2018 7:55 pm : link
1) Too stupid to play in NY
2) Too stupid to keep his mouth shut about being too stupid to play in NY.
Nice re-up on dinwiddie  
hitdog42 : 12/13/2018 8:40 pm : link
For the nets
Would think they try to trade russel now -
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nygiants16 : 12/13/2018 8:45 pm : link
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For the nets
Would think they try to trade russel now -


i was thinking this, doesnt make sense for them to resign russel...
Noah  
TyreeHelmet : 12/14/2018 8:38 am : link
The Knicks should be able to get their money back. To recap, he was suspended for peds, had 2 surgeries, got in a fight with his coach and was awful the 55 games he did play. Now he’s saying pretty much that his drinking prevented him from doing his job.
I didn't realize  
steve in ky : 12/14/2018 9:11 am : link
the Trier and Durant have such a personal connection together.

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Trier and “KD” became “close” when Trier was one of the top high school prospects in the country, spending two years playing high school ball in Oklahoma City. The then-Thunder star has served as a mentor and attended several of Trier’s high school games.

“We became close, yes,’’ Trier said after Thursday’s practice here. “Yeah, he’s seen plenty [of my games]. I was one of the top-ranked players in the country out of high school. Just a guy being a genuine person, wanted to look out for me, wanted to get to know me and build a relationship with me. Ever since then our bond has grown and [he] became my brother.

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RE: I didn't realize  
nygiants16 : 12/14/2018 9:18 am : link
In comment 14218302 steve in ky said:
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the Trier and Durant have such a personal connection together.



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Trier and “KD” became “close” when Trier was one of the top high school prospects in the country, spending two years playing high school ball in Oklahoma City. The then-Thunder star has served as a mentor and attended several of Trier’s high school games.

“We became close, yes,’’ Trier said after Thursday’s practice here. “Yeah, he’s seen plenty [of my games]. I was one of the top-ranked players in the country out of high school. Just a guy being a genuine person, wanted to look out for me, wanted to get to know me and build a relationship with me. Ever since then our bond has grown and [he] became my brother.

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there is a quote from kd saying he jumped out of his chair when he say triers dunk against atlanta
Durant  
TyreeHelmet : 12/14/2018 9:25 am : link
Is reportedly an enormous basketball and NBA fan. And its clear when you hear him speak about hoops. A lot of athletes don't follow the sport their in when not playing. He definitely watches a lot of basketball.
RE: Durant  
bceagle05 : 12/14/2018 11:09 am : link
In comment 14218317 TyreeHelmet said:
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Is reportedly an enormous basketball and NBA fan. And its clear when you hear him speak about hoops. A lot of athletes don't follow the sport their in when not playing. He definitely watches a lot of basketball.

Yup, he has his faults, but Durant loves the game. You can see how fed up he gets with the distractions surrounding the NBA - he just wants to play and go home. He mentioned Ja Morant on a recent Bill Simmons podcast - I think I know who we're drafting.
Durant  
DanMetroMan : 12/14/2018 11:10 am : link
came off well on Hot Ones. Seemed like a pretty normal guy.
Atlanta  
DanMetroMan : 12/14/2018 11:13 am : link
is going to regret that Doncic trade for a long, long time.
RE: RE: Noah  
dep026 : 12/14/2018 11:19 am : link
In comment 14217908 Enzo said:
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is such a fucking scumbag. His quote today made me sick.


to this day I can't believe Phil thought it was a good idea to surround KP with garbage (on and off the court) like Noah and Rose.


Yeah, Rose is such garbage.....

He's basically beloved by all his teammates and city. Great call on that one.
RE: Atlanta  
bceagle05 : 12/14/2018 11:19 am : link
In comment 14218450 DanMetroMan said:
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is going to regret that Doncic trade for a long, long time.

Doncic's fun to watch, and I would've wanted him #1 overall had the Knicks won the lottery. He's not exactly the greatest athlete in the world - he's a little, uh, doughy - but he can play. Amazing that Dallas got him at #5. A perfect successor to Dirk as the face of the franchise. Guys will want to play with him, too.
RE: RE: RE: Noah  
Enzo : 12/14/2018 11:33 am : link
In comment 14218454 dep026 said:
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is such a fucking scumbag. His quote today made me sick.


to this day I can't believe Phil thought it was a good idea to surround KP with garbage (on and off the court) like Noah and Rose.



Yeah, Rose is such garbage.....

He's basically beloved by all his teammates and city. Great call on that one.

yup, he's garbage, plain and simple. You're blind.
RE: Durant  
Greg from LI : 12/14/2018 11:50 am : link
In comment 14218317 TyreeHelmet said:
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Is reportedly an enormous basketball and NBA fan. And its clear when you hear him speak about hoops. A lot of athletes don't follow the sport their in when not playing. He definitely watches a lot of basketball.


Reminds me of the story about ARod and Jeter when they were still friends. ARod stayed at Jeter's house in Tampa once, and was shocked that Jeter didn't have the Extra Innings package on his cable. Baseball consumed ARod's life, but to Jeter it was just a job.
RE: Atlanta  
TyreeHelmet : 12/14/2018 12:24 pm : link
In comment 14218450 DanMetroMan said:
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is going to regret that Doncic trade for a long, long time.


I wonder if there was a trade option for the Knicks. Looking back would you have traded the 2018 and protected 2019 pick for Doncic? I doubt they wanted to drop to 9 or probably would have wanted no protection on 2019. I'd still be tempted- Doncic is incredible.

As in stands now Dallas only had to trade the 2019 18th overall pick for him. A great great trade...
RE: RE: RE: RE: Noah  
dep026 : 12/14/2018 12:29 pm : link
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yup, he's garbage, plain and simple. You're blind.


Lol... it’s ok to be wrong about him. Most people who don’t watch games have been, like yourself.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Noah  
nygiants16 : 12/14/2018 12:36 pm : link
In comment 14218471 Enzo said:
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is such a fucking scumbag. His quote today made me sick.


to this day I can't believe Phil thought it was a good idea to surround KP with garbage (on and off the court) like Noah and Rose.



Yeah, Rose is such garbage.....

He's basically beloved by all his teammates and city. Great call on that one.


yup, he's garbage, plain and simple. You're blind.


i am going to guess you have not watched him at all this year..

18 ppg, 5assists, 49 percent, 48 percent from 3...

far from garbage
Romeo Langford's only shooting 23 percent from three?  
bceagle05 : 12/14/2018 12:41 pm : link
Dude, I was counting on you to chase Timmy out of the starting lineup.
Lee  
TyreeHelmet : 12/14/2018 1:08 pm : link
Went 7-21 in the G league... Yikes.
RE: Lee  
BigBlueShock : 12/14/2018 1:14 pm : link
In comment 14218593 TyreeHelmet said:
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Went 7-21 in the G league... Yikes.

That’s kinda why he’s there..

Did you expect a well oiled machine right off the bat after missing the entire season so far?
Problem is  
Carl in CT : 12/14/2018 1:40 pm : link
We knew this was coming. I’m sure made tons of calls and the only thing we could do was cut Baker. I bet no moves of consequence for the rest of the year.
Positive Forbes article on Perry/Knicks  
bceagle05 : 12/14/2018 2:55 pm : link
Perhaps the tide is finally turning...

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Flash forward to this year's draft with the Knicks, where Perry and President Steve Mills added Knox, Robinson and, effectively, Trier, who is leading all Knicks rookies at 11.3 points per game but is now sidelined with a hamstring injury.

"I think they did a phenomenal job on the last draft," one NBA scout said of the Knicks. "They definitely have an eye for basketball talent.

"If you look at the work that Scott Perry did in Sacramento, if you put those two drafts together, he's probably next to Danny Ainge [of the Celtics]."

The scout added that if you had one NBA team comprised of Fox, Jackson, Mason, Giles, Knox, Robinson and Trier, it would be fairly loaded with young talent.

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Well gee whiz. Thanks a lot.  
Anakim : 12/14/2018 3:56 pm : link
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The NBA's last 2-minute report states that refs should have called a shooting foul on Matthew Dellavedova with 19 seconds to play & NYK down by 1 in CLE's win over the Knicks on Wednesday. A foul would have put Emmanuel Mudiay on the free-throw line with a chance to take the lead
RE: Well gee whiz. Thanks a lot.  
Jon in NYC : 12/14/2018 4:54 pm : link
In comment 14218810 Anakim said:
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The NBA's last 2-minute report states that refs should have called a shooting foul on Matthew Dellavedova with 19 seconds to play & NYK down by 1 in CLE's win over the Knicks on Wednesday. A foul would have put Emmanuel Mudiay on the free-throw line with a chance to take the lead


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