NFT: Knicks Sign Trier to 2 Year Deal - Baker out

Probably isn't good enough to play meaningful minutes on a good team and he got overpaid, but I will miss the guy. He played his ass off any time he saw the floor and was always the first guy off the bench to greet his teammates. I know those are cliches but they are true with him. I'd rather see Kornet go but they need the big man depth.

All the best to Baker.

out some of the most ridiculous contracts in the history of the league (Noah, Jerome James, Shandon Anderson, Eisley, Eddy Curry, and many others), but the Baker contract, despite being relatively tiny, may have been the most nonsensical. Just completely absurd on every level.

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Allonzo Trier's two-year contract is for $7 million and has a team option for the second year, per ESPN sources. Ron Baker will be waived to make room for Trier.

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The Knicks would have lost their bi-annual exception next year, anyway, since they plan on dropping below the cap. So it�s a good use of it now.

Trier will be a restricted free agent in 2020 with Early Bird rights.

to get to durant max

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hustling. If he sticks in the NBA I will be shocked.

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out some of the most ridiculous contracts in the history of the league (Noah, Jerome James, Shandon Anderson, Eisley, Eddy Curry, and many others), but the Baker contract, despite being relatively tiny, may have been the most nonsensical. Just completely absurd on every level.

Understand what your saying but give the Knicks situation all it cost them was cash and not cap. It was just an enormous parting gift from Phil Jackson.

It's amazing to say given how many shitty contracts they have given out, but Noah is by far the worst. Given the high cost and now length with the stretch and just how bad he was, it's not even close.

Trier, Dotson and Robinson were excellent finds.

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Trier, Dotson and Robinson were excellent finds.

and they are all locked up...

if knicks do sign a max with kp, can go over cap to sign dotson after next year along with trier...

Robinson is signed for 4 years...

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to get to durant max

Hopefully they don't do something stupid early just to get it. You don't necessarily need 38 mil in cap space going into the conversation with him, they need the cap space when they need to make the signing official. I have no problem attaching an asset to trade Lee or Hardaway when you actually have a Durant/Kyrie/Kawhi in fold; then you know attaching a pick wont kill you. To attach draft picks without assurance you are getting a prime player though will always come back to haunt them.

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In comment 14216997 nygiants16 said: Quote: to get to durant max Hopefully they don't do something stupid early just to get it. You don't necessarily need 38 mil in cap space going into the conversation with him, they need the cap space when they need to make the signing official. I have no problem attaching an asset to trade Lee or Hardaway when you actually have a Durant/Kyrie/Kawhi in fold; then you know attaching a pick wont kill you. To attach draft picks without assurance you are getting a prime player though will always come back to haunt them.

it is actually closer to 8 or 9 million so you need to trade lee

Like someone said, Kornet is needed as a last big man off the bench. Baker wasn't needed at all. Not that I didn't like the guy - just ... WTF with that contract.

may also be nice to have a little extra cap space to keep vonlehs cap hold and you can go over cap to resign him..

I didn�t know you can do that for 1 year deals

I thought Trier might test the market this summer, but I'm glad he's locked up. Progress...

But bittersweet. Really like Baker. Good team guy. Hope he lands somewhere. And congrats to him, on being a multi-millionaire.

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I didn�t know you can do that for 1 year deals

there is a cap hold on any contract, just a matter of early bird rights or full bird rights

"the Lee deal" in imminent.

if they could have moved him they would have by now. He needs to rehab, get meaningful minutes and hope someone needs perimeter help at the deadline. And we need to not take back salary. That's a lot of asks.

it means we're including a good young player/draft pick to get rid of him. As Steve mentioned, it's probably best to wait until Durant or Kawhi have a pen in their hands and a contract in front of them.

So far the Knicks haven't done anything questionable since Perry has arrived imo, except for stretching Noah too early. This is pretty much as expected, no fake injuries, no improbable trade scenarios lying in wait, just a straight up boring and logical transaction.

this you can tell the Knicks are committed to tanking. #RIPRonBaker

With a two-year, $7 million contract, Knicks guard Allonzo Trier is now basically getting paid the equivalent of what the No. 12 overall pick in the 2018 NBA Draft (Miles Bridges) will make over that time. Not bad for an undrafted rookie.

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it means we're including a good young player/draft pick to get rid of him. As Steve mentioned, it's probably best to wait until Durant or Kawhi have a pen in their hands and a contract in front of them.

Is Tim Hardaway Jr. or Trey Burke considered good young players? :D

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may also be nice to have a little extra cap space to keep vonlehs cap hold and you can go over cap to resign him..

No bird rights on Vonleh. Maybe they can use the MLE once they go over the cap but I think once they renounce him they can't sign him. Could be wrong on that.

Hardaway is the guy they have to move. He can help a team but his role here just isn't needed. I think a trade with Detroit or Sac make a lot of sense.

If you also need to move Lee this offseason, then you can figure it out once its definitely needed ( trade dump, trade with pick, stretch).

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Is Tim Hardaway Jr. or Trey Burke considered good young players? :D

The answer to your question is they are Michigan Men. So, yes.

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In comment 14217112 Anakim said: Quote: Is Tim Hardaway Jr. or Trey Burke considered good young players? :D The answer to your question is they are Michigan Men. So, yes.

Awesome. If a team is good for Christmas, we'll even include young stud Mario Hezonja

obvious trade candidate because his contract isn't that outrageous and he's a nice 2 way player. Tim Hardaway Jr if they could figure out a way to trade him I feel like it'd be a minor miracle.

When you sign someone to a contract, presumably your offer is based on what their worth to you compared what other teams are offering. I cannot figure out how the Knicks signed each of these guys to their amounts considering what they were bidding against

lately.

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obvious trade candidate because his contract isn't that outrageous and he's a nice 2 way player. Tim Hardaway Jr if they could figure out a way to trade him I feel like it'd be a minor miracle.

But hes also 33, currently injured, and really not that good of player. His defense is also overrated. He's not a bad defender, but he isn't exactly Tony Allen. He's probably not starting for a good team. I just don't see a team eager to pay a 34 year old Lee 13 million next year...

I could see a team talking themselves into Hardaway. The guy has his flaws which are magnified on this team, but he can score and he's only 26. I just don't think the Knicks will salary dump him yet.

but I think Hardaway's value is in offense only. He is just a shooter. If another team values that and would take that contract, he should definitely be moved. Especially if it meant Durant. He and Porzingas can take the shots that Tim takes now. Not to mention Trier, Frank shooting more, etc.

Maybe I'm undervaluing him though.

Anyone else see the article about the Clippers plan to sign Durant and Leonard? They have room for 2 max FAs but I just don't see that. The clippers will always be 2nd fiddle to the Lakers.

I think its Knicks or Warriors for Durant. Is he really going to form another "superteam" with Leonard on the Clippers? Maybe I'm being optimistic...

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Anyone else see the article about the Clippers plan to sign Durant and Leonard? They have room for 2 max FAs but I just don't see that. The clippers will always be 2nd fiddle to the Lakers. I think its Knicks or Warriors for Durant. Is he really going to form another "superteam" with Leonard on the Clippers? Maybe I'm being optimistic...

I think the Clips are a legit threat...given their city and owner. Plus they have Jerry West advising them which doesn't hurt.

a little bit of a stretch, yea they have that amount of cap space but that means they are letting harris walk...it would basically be durant and kawhi with gallinari

I know some people say his contract isn't terrible now but if he is traded there is language in his contract that increases his salary even higher. That is a tough pill to swallow for any potentially interested team.

Hardaway or Lee. Don�t really need to do it until the summer when you have a verbal commitment from Durant or Kawhi. Otherwise just keep them and move on. There is some slim chance that teams come knocking for either one this season and are willing to make a deal that is favorable for the Knicks but I doubt it.

Most likely scenario is that neither big free agent comes to the Knicks so there is no point in dumping pieces now to clear space.

My only real issue with Hardaway is he takes shots and playing time away from the young guys but as a lead player he kind of sucks which is good for the tank.

is such a fucking scumbag. His quote today made me sick.

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is such a fucking scumbag. His quote today made me sick.

and people questioned why the knicks got rid of him before the season started and didnt wait

what did he say?

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what did he say?

basically said that he was to lit for new york city and the town is to lit, memphis is smaller so he can be lit withiut anyone really caring...

There were rumors that perry did not want him around the young kids and hahn intimated that noah got to one of the young guys last year, my guess hernangomez

But since he is gloriously gone, I don't need to!

person speak, Noah would go out and party too much.

Hahn said he used to bring younger players with him too.

Seems like why they needed to keep him away from the team, beyond just benching him.

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But since he is gloriously gone, I don't need to!

Party hard and couldn't recover like he used to when he was younger and Hahn said it impacted the younger players he took under his wing too.

A real pro's pro

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is such a fucking scumbag. His quote today made me sick.

I used to have great respect for this guy too. How about you show some pride in your job? Guy got paid 72 million and didn�t earn one penny of it. And he had the audacity to complain about NY?

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is such a fucking scumbag. His quote today made me sick.

to this day I can't believe Phil thought it was a good idea to surround KP with garbage (on and off the court) like Noah and Rose.