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Odell injury stuff creeping up during late-season resurgence

FranknWeezer : 12/15/2018 9:04 am
It’s bad enough he can’t play for us right now. Obviously it’s killing him not to be out there. But part of me feels like he’s just looking for attention by putting all this out there about the ins and outs of his injury, who said what to whom, etc., all while specifically having been told by the HC no to do exactly that. Worst part is this is cropping up while the team is finally playing well and least needs something like this as a distraction. The timing just sucks, and it’s too bad he can’t instead just zip it and support his guys until he can get back on the field.

Maybe I’m overreacting, but I don’t like the direction this seems to be heading, especially while all most of us probably want to do is cheer these guys on for an improbable wildcard spot.
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RE: I think he’ll be traded..  
Go Terps : 12/15/2018 1:28 pm : link
In comment 14219451 Sean said:
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I don’t know if Boomer is plugged in, but he has said Cleveland will be interested. There are probably a few others.

Can see them getting a first for him & turning the page.

This isn’t a bash Beckham take, just something I could see happening. I don’t necessarily think Gettleman wanted to sign him, I think it was more of a Mara call. I think Mara/DG/PS are growing tired of the drama & will attempt to build a team which features a lot of Barkley in 2019.


Fingers crossed, but I doubt it. He sells a lot of jerseys.
RE: RE: I think he’ll be traded..  
Mike from Ohio : 12/15/2018 1:36 pm : link
In comment 14219455 Go Terps said:
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Fingers crossed, but I doubt it. He sells a lot of jerseys.


That's pretty fair. What has the guy accomplished in the league except selling some jerseys? Nothing. Horrible receiver and a guy his teammates are always complaining about.

Oh wait...he is an excellent receiver and the only folks distracted by his "antics" are the press and some very sensitive fans.
Terps  
Sean : 12/15/2018 1:39 pm : link
So does Barkley. I also think Beckham’s popularity from an owner/business perspective was a big factor in the contract, but Barkley is here now.
He is a hard person to feel sympathetic for  
JOrthman : 12/15/2018 1:43 pm : link
and he gets harder to root for. Look, everyone has thoughts, feelings and opinions that are unpopular. We all do things at times that aren't in our best interests. He goes out of his way to post every thought and feeling he has and of course that is going to draw negative opinions back.
RE: He is a hard person to feel sympathetic for  
Mike from Ohio : 12/15/2018 1:47 pm : link
In comment 14219468 JOrthman said:
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and he gets harder to root for. Look, everyone has thoughts, feelings and opinions that are unpopular. We all do things at times that aren't in our best interests. He goes out of his way to post every thought and feeling he has and of course that is going to draw negative opinions back.


Here is what I don't understand. The guy plays football, and plays it very well by any measure you use. For the sake of argument let's stipulate he is a self-centered prima donna who posts all his thoughts and feelings on the internet.

Why does anybody care? When you can show me is having a negative impact on the team by doing so, I would care. But short of that, why does anyone care what he is like off the field if he is not committing crimes or hurting people. He is a strange dude. So what?
RE: And I think fans focus on this trivial nonsense  
ron mexico : 12/15/2018 1:47 pm : link
In comment 14219263 Mike from Ohio said:
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Because they enjoy soap operas more than football. They need a bad guy to root against even on their own team.


Sounds about right.

A person posts all his thoughts online  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/15/2018 1:49 pm : link
and yet people who claim to hate this stuff are always the ones who consume it.
RE: RE: RE: Regarding being called out  
ron mexico : 12/15/2018 1:54 pm : link
In comment 14219420 B in ALB said:
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In comment 14219418 Go Terps said:


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In comment 14219367 B in ALB said:


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He posted on social media the following :

"They wanna burn a bridge, then expect you to send a yacht."

That doesn't sound like a very good response and can only refer to recent comments by management.

I've been a Beckham defender for the most part, but that's just stupid and immature.



Was that recently or earlier at the start of the season?



It was posted 18 hours ago.


Most of what he posts are just song lyrics

As fascinating as his social media posts sound, I don't costume them  
Go Terps : 12/15/2018 2:00 pm : link
The team might, though. That said, given who our GM is they might be scanning Friendster to track our players' social media posts.
As I guessed, it's a lyric from song called the Hope  
ron mexico : 12/15/2018 2:30 pm : link
Middle aged dudes scouring instagram to look for drama is a pretty imbarrasing
O’Dell has demonstrated an  
joeinpa : 12/15/2018 2:42 pm : link
Incredible lack of awareness and maturity since he s been here. Why is this even worthy of conversation.

This type of publicity has happened before with him and it will happen again.

He is not changing. Why does it matter. What matters is the Giants becoming winners again. They can do this with or without Beckham. I for one believe it will be without him, but we will see.

In the meantime his behavior has no bearing on whether they win or lose. The question shouldn’t be is he too much of a distraction. The question should be are they better with him or with the assets they can get from trading him.

Giants  
PaulN : 12/15/2018 2:42 pm : link
Must trade him this off season or they will never be able to get anything close to what they would right now. Eli does not need Beckham, get Eli a very good OLine, get him decent receivers, and a good defense and we have as good a shot as anyone, he must have the OLine or he is not nearly the same QB.
RE: As I guessed, it's a lyric from song called the Hope  
Go Terps : 12/15/2018 2:44 pm : link
In comment 14219504 ron mexico said:
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Middle aged dudes scouring instagram to look for drama is a pretty imbarrasing


Or reading it on NJ.com.

I've never looked at his Twitter or Instagram or whatever. I can only imagine the amount of unintentional comedy.
I follow him on Instagram  
B in ALB : 12/15/2018 2:45 pm : link
So I'm just posting what he posted. Not sure what the big fuckin deal is with that. But someone always has to bitch about something I guess.
RE: I follow him on Instagram  
ron mexico : 12/15/2018 2:47 pm : link
In comment 14219514 B in ALB said:
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So I'm just posting what he posted. Not sure what the big fuckin deal is with that. But someone always has to bitch about something I guess.


Aren't you bitching about what he is posting on insta?

And what management comments are you saying he is reacting to?
RE: Giants  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 12/15/2018 3:06 pm : link
In comment 14219512 PaulN said:
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Must trade him this off season or they will never be able to get anything close to what they would right now. Eli does not need Beckham, get Eli a very good OLine, get him decent receivers, and a good defense and we have as good a shot as anyone, he must have the OLine or he is not nearly the same QB.

In hindsight Martin would have been the better pick for the team. But this franchise was so disfunctional, Aaron Rodgers coffee boy and company drafted a good smallish WCO receiver for Eli smh.
This thread is awesome  
UConn4523 : 12/15/2018 3:12 pm : link
such much stupid wrapped up in one neat little thread.
RE: RE: I can’t see OBJ  
section125 : 12/15/2018 3:19 pm : link
In comment 14219286 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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playing for the Giants for too much longer.

Would not be at all surprised to see a trade. Not now. But within the next 2 years.


What a diva flake, and man his albatross contract.

I'm just hoping for a Shockey Effect, where the team improves without him. Chemistry is a weird thing.


Morons
If Beckham murdered someone tomorrow  
ThatLimerickGuy : 12/15/2018 3:35 pm : link
A lot of you dolts would immediately start asking what the victim did to deserve it to apologize for OBJ.

I said it yesterday and I will say it again. He is an asshole, has always been an asshole and will always be an asshole. You can't win with the guy. Trading him has always been the right move. How do you think he is going to act when we have the uoung QB who struggles and cant get him his stats?
Yes, Beckham has some problems  
Bramton1 : 12/15/2018 3:38 pm : link
If only he could conduct himself more like former Giants Mark Ingram and David Meggett.
Overly dramatic  
dorgan : 12/15/2018 3:44 pm : link
thread based on an article with a silly premise.
RE: If Beckham murdered someone tomorrow  
UConn4523 : 12/15/2018 3:46 pm : link
In comment 14219543 ThatLimerickGuy said:
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A lot of you dolts would immediately start asking what the victim did to deserve it to apologize for OBJ.

I said it yesterday and I will say it again. He is an asshole, has always been an asshole and will always be an asshole. You can't win with the guy. Trading him has always been the right move. How do you think he is going to act when we have the uoung QB who struggles and cant get him his stats?


You have it backwards. You act like he murdered someone. That’s what makes me laugh, really awful commentary by Giants fans over tweets and Instagram posts. Think about that, let it sink in...
Some of you are unreal  
Emil : 12/15/2018 4:00 pm : link
The whole calling out comment has nothing to do with the injury, it’s just the tag line the writer used to tee up the article. And guess what, he was pretty much called our, and has responded appropriately.

I do t know what else some parts of this fan base want OBJ to do. He is a high profile player dealing with a nagging and potentially serious injury. He goes to the hospital and it’s the checkup that launched a thousand hot takes and speculative articles. Many of which are uninformed and say stupid things like he won’t be a Giant in two years or was a wasted contract.

I’d say OBJ isn’t the drama queen here. Many of you are. The media knows it and they feed your appetite and get clicks in the process. You should be rooting for the best WR in team history to get back on the field, not complaining that he gave an interview and is trying to make things all about him. Didn’t see any of you guys out there taking the leg whip, throwing a TD pass, or blocking for Saquon in overtime.
RE: If Beckham murdered someone tomorrow  
Mike from Ohio : 12/15/2018 4:02 pm : link
In comment 14219543 ThatLimerickGuy said:
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I said it yesterday and I will say it again. He is an asshole, has always been an asshole and will always be an asshole. You can't win with the guy. Trading him has always been the right move. How do you think he is going to act when we have the uoung QB who struggles and cant get him his stats?


So you can't win if you have an asshole on your team? Interesting. I didn't realize all championship rosters were made up of really good dudes. Throw in an asshole and the team collapses.

This is next level stupid.
RE: RE: If Beckham murdered someone tomorrow  
ThatLimerickGuy : 12/15/2018 4:06 pm : link
In comment 14219556 Mike from Ohio said:
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In comment 14219543 ThatLimerickGuy said:


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I said it yesterday and I will say it again. He is an asshole, has always been an asshole and will always be an asshole. You can't win with the guy. Trading him has always been the right move. How do you think he is going to act when we have the uoung QB who struggles and cant get him his stats?



So you can't win if you have an asshole on your team? Interesting. I didn't realize all championship rosters were made up of really good dudes. Throw in an asshole and the team collapses.

This is next level stupid.


Very hard to do if they are team leaders. High paid guys need to set an example with their actions.
RE: RE: I follow him on Instagram  
B in ALB : 12/15/2018 4:09 pm : link
In comment 14219516 ron mexico said:
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In comment 14219514 B in ALB said:


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So I'm just posting what he posted. Not sure what the big fuckin deal is with that. But someone always has to bitch about something I guess.



Aren't you bitching about what he is posting on insta?

And what management comments are you saying he is reacting to?


I'm not bitching. Just seems to weird and possibly stupid timing.
LT was an asshole  
UConn4523 : 12/15/2018 4:12 pm : link
and the definition of a piece of shit human being and BBI loves him. Ray Lewis was an asshole and won a title. Countless examples to fit counter your dumb post, but don’t let that get in the way of whatever your reply will be.
I take great comfort  
Emil : 12/15/2018 4:21 pm : link
In the fact that ownership and management mostly likely do not care one bit what a segment of the fan base thinks about a player as long as that player helps the team win (and is not a criminal). Hate to say it fans, but good owners don’t listen to you on personnel matters, they just focus on talent and trying to get wins.
Most likely  
Emil : 12/15/2018 4:22 pm : link
Not mostly likely.

I hate autocorrect
RE: Does anyone think that unconscious racism plays a role  
gmenatlarge : 12/15/2018 4:33 pm : link
In comment 14219290 yatqb said:
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in how he's seen? I do. Flame away.


Really? Playing the race card....sad!
...  
christian : 12/15/2018 4:50 pm : link
I don't follow the intrigue as closely as some -- but that article seems suspect as far as timing. Did the team "call him out" recently and then he posted a song lyric? Is that the sequence of events?
RE: RE: Does anyone think that unconscious racism plays a role  
yatqb : 12/15/2018 4:59 pm : link
In comment 14219576 gmenatlarge said:
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In comment 14219290 yatqb said:


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in how he's seen? I do. Flame away.



Really? Playing the race card....sad!


OMG! Calling a spade a spade...no pun intended.
RE: ...  
ron mexico : 12/15/2018 5:03 pm : link
In comment 14219579 christian said:
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I don't follow the intrigue as closely as some -- but that article seems suspect as far as timing. Did the team "call him out" recently and then he posted a song lyric? Is that the sequence of events?


Are they talking about Maras comments from two months ago?

RE: RE: ...  
Emil : 12/15/2018 5:28 pm : link
In comment 14219585 ron mexico said:
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In comment 14219579 christian said:


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I don't follow the intrigue as closely as some -- but that article seems suspect as far as timing. Did the team "call him out" recently and then he posted a song lyric? Is that the sequence of events?



Are they talking about Maras comments from two months ago?


Yes. Media, sometimes it’s meant to influence more than inform.
RE: RE: He is a hard person to feel sympathetic for  
JOrthman : 12/15/2018 5:46 pm : link
In comment 14219474 Mike from Ohio said:
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and he gets harder to root for. Look, everyone has thoughts, feelings and opinions that are unpopular. We all do things at times that aren't in our best interests. He goes out of his way to post every thought and feeling he has and of course that is going to draw negative opinions back.



Here is what I don't understand. The guy plays football, and plays it very well by any measure you use. For the sake of argument let's stipulate he is a self-centered prima donna who posts all his thoughts and feelings on the internet.

Why does anybody care? When you can show me is having a negative impact on the team by doing so, I would care. But short of that, why does anyone care what he is like off the field if he is not committing crimes or hurting people. He is a strange dude. So what?


Overall I don't and like many wouldn't even know about it, if it wasn't posted on here.
RE: If Beckham murdered someone tomorrow  
Hsilwek92 : 12/15/2018 5:50 pm : link
In comment 14219543 ThatLimerickGuy said:
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A lot of you dolts would immediately start asking what the victim did to deserve it to apologize for OBJ.

I said it yesterday and I will say it again. He is an asshole, has always been an asshole and will always be an asshole. You can't win with the guy. Trading him has always been the right move. How do you think he is going to act when we have the uoung QB who struggles and cant get him his stats?


But what about his life influence on the underground gay scene?
RE: LT was an asshole  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 12/15/2018 6:44 pm : link
In comment 14219567 UConn4523 said:
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and the definition of a piece of shit human being and BBI loves him. Ray Lewis was an asshole and won a title. Countless examples to fit counter your dumb post, but don’t let that get in the way of whatever your reply will be.

LT wasn't really an asshole, he was the original honey badger, he just doesn't give a f***. Kind of made him the player that he was.
It's embarassing threads like this..  
Canton : 12/15/2018 7:08 pm : link
That makes you yearn for the old days of BBI. Where an OP actually had substance and generated excellent football talk.

Like a previous poster said. It's not BBI anymore. It's TMZ.

RE: RE: LT was an asshole  
UConn4523 : 12/15/2018 7:54 pm : link
In comment 14219662 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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In comment 14219567 UConn4523 said:


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and the definition of a piece of shit human being and BBI loves him. Ray Lewis was an asshole and won a title. Countless examples to fit counter your dumb post, but don’t let that get in the way of whatever your reply will be.


LT wasn't really an asshole, he was the original honey badger, he just doesn't give a f***. Kind of made him the player that he was.


Ohh ok. Blowing lines and not coming to practice are considered ok but not instagram posts. Got it. Add in soliciting sex from a minor and you’re right, Beckham is worse.

This place is fucking nuts.
Coach Red always brings the quality  
Mad Mike : 12/15/2018 8:06 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: LT was an asshole  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 12/15/2018 8:15 pm : link
In comment 14219712 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 14219662 Coach Red Beaulieu said:


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In comment 14219567 UConn4523 said:


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and the definition of a piece of shit human being and BBI loves him. Ray Lewis was an asshole and won a title. Countless examples to fit counter your dumb post, but don’t let that get in the way of whatever your reply will be.


LT wasn't really an asshole, he was the original honey badger, he just doesn't give a f***. Kind of made him the player that he was.



Ohh ok. Blowing lines and not coming to practice are considered ok but not instagram posts. Got it. Add in soliciting sex from a minor and you’re right, Beckham is worse.

This place is fucking nuts.

On the field LT's greatest attribute was his unhinged tenacity which he completely controlled with his tremendous football intellect and awareness to not hurt the team. He was actually extraordinarily sportsman like on the field.
RE: RE: Giants  
ajr2456 : 12/15/2018 8:55 pm : link
In comment 14219532 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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Must trade him this off season or they will never be able to get anything close to what they would right now. Eli does not need Beckham, get Eli a very good OLine, get him decent receivers, and a good defense and we have as good a shot as anyone, he must have the OLine or he is not nearly the same QB.


In hindsight Martin would have been the better pick for the team. But this franchise was so disfunctional, Aaron Rodgers coffee boy and company drafted a good smallish WCO receiver for Eli smh.


Mcadoo drafted Odell?
Any player that is fiery  
Paulie Walnuts : 12/16/2018 1:44 am : link
Giants fans want to run him out of town. Same shit with Shockey.. gimme more guys like odell and shockey. They Hate to lose
Meanwhile, His comments on World Peace and The Environment,  
Rafflee : 12/16/2018 7:24 am : link
and Childhood Hunger go largely unreported...from what I've seen
RE: Any player that is fiery  
widmerseyebrow : 12/16/2018 8:08 am : link
In comment 14219885 Paulie Walnuts said:
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Giants fans want to run him out of town. Same shit with Shockey.. gimme more guys like odell and shockey. They Hate to lose


Fiery is insinuating that you're not playing because you're butt hurt the owner (who just paid you a fortune) told you to shut up and play earlier in the season? If the above is true, that's hard to defend.
RE: RE: Any player that is fiery  
ajr2456 : 12/16/2018 8:44 am : link
In comment 14219942 widmerseyebrow said:
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Giants fans want to run him out of town. Same shit with Shockey.. gimme more guys like odell and shockey. They Hate to lose



Fiery is insinuating that you're not playing because you're butt hurt the owner (who just paid you a fortune) told you to shut up and play earlier in the season? If the above is true, that's hard to defend.


Except that’s not what he said
RE: RE: Any player that is fiery  
ron mexico : 12/16/2018 8:48 am : link
In comment 14219942 widmerseyebrow said:
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Giants fans want to run him out of town. Same shit with Shockey.. gimme more guys like odell and shockey. They Hate to lose



Fiery is insinuating that you're not playing because you're butt hurt the owner (who just paid you a fortune) told you to shut up and play earlier in the season? If the above is true, that's hard to defend.


So you think OBJ waited two months to exact his revenge?
And he played through injury one game but being shut down in subsequent games due to a set back is really he way for addressing comments that he has already addressed?

Can't make this shit up.
RE: RE: RE: Any player that is fiery  
ajr2456 : 12/16/2018 9:04 am : link
In comment 14219977 ron mexico said:
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In comment 14219942 widmerseyebrow said:


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In comment 14219885 Paulie Walnuts said:


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Giants fans want to run him out of town. Same shit with Shockey.. gimme more guys like odell and shockey. They Hate to lose



Fiery is insinuating that you're not playing because you're butt hurt the owner (who just paid you a fortune) told you to shut up and play earlier in the season? If the above is true, that's hard to defend.



So you think OBJ waited two months to exact his revenge?
And he played through injury one game but being shut down in subsequent games due to a set back is really he way for addressing comments that he has already addressed?

Can't make this shit up.


It’s incredible
We just need a thread dedicated to his social media posts  
UConn4523 : 12/16/2018 9:18 am : link
so I can sit back and watch BBIs finest do their best detective work.
The only guy that can play a brutal sport  
Rflairr : 12/16/2018 10:04 am : link
And get injured. And be considered just seeking attention. Shit is stupid
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