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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/15/2018 4:44 pm
Houston up 3-0 early.
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Darnold looks great  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 12/15/2018 7:22 pm : link
Going to get a chance to see what he has in crunch time.
Terrible throw by Darnold  
Anakim : 12/15/2018 7:25 pm : link
Can't make that throw there. Lucky it wasn't picked off.
Jets defense is trash.  
Dave in Hoboken : 12/15/2018 7:27 pm : link
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Lucky that was called a sack  
Anakim : 12/15/2018 7:28 pm : link
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They need to get Darnold help  
dpinzow : 12/15/2018 7:28 pm : link
The Jets OL situation is at least as bad as ours and he doesn't have a skill position player near the caliber of OBJ or Saquon
Boy, that was close to being complete.  
Dave in Hoboken : 12/15/2018 7:30 pm : link
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Game over  
Anakim : 12/15/2018 7:30 pm : link
Jets offense sucked, but Darnold can't make anything out of shit
Very good past two weeks from Darnold.  
Dave in Hoboken : 12/15/2018 7:31 pm : link
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Point proven at least on that play  
dpinzow : 12/15/2018 7:31 pm : link
Robby Anderson is the Jets #1 receiver, which tells you all you need to know about Darnold's skill position options. The better receivers in the league come down with that one and Darnold made the play to get out of trouble
RE: Point proven at least on that play  
mrvax : 12/15/2018 7:32 pm : link
In comment 14219692 dpinzow said:
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Robby Anderson is the Jets #1 receiver, which tells you all you need to know about Darnold's skill position options. The better receivers in the league come down with that one and Darnold made the play to get out of trouble


Yes. Should have been caught.
RE: Game over  
Default : 12/15/2018 7:33 pm : link
In comment 14219690 Anakim said:
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Jets offense sucked, but Darnold can't make anything out of shit


So he is supposed to catch the balls too?
Darnold has played well.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/15/2018 7:35 pm : link
I still think we hit a HR with Saquon & we'll get our guy of the future either this May or May 2020.
RE: RE: Game over  
Anakim : 12/15/2018 7:36 pm : link
In comment 14219694 Default said:
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Jets offense sucked, but Darnold can't make anything out of shit



So he is supposed to catch the balls too?


Of course not. Hence the "Darnold can't make anything out of shit"
RE: RE: Game over  
Dave in Hoboken : 12/15/2018 7:36 pm : link
In comment 14219694 Default said:
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Jets offense sucked, but Darnold can't make anything out of shit



So he is supposed to catch the balls too?


And kick FGs, too. But him making people seethe is actually more than enough for me.
Anakim  
joeinpa : 12/15/2018 7:37 pm : link
You re just pokin the bear right?

You couldn’t have watched this game and come away unimpressed by Darnold.......could you?
RE: RE: RE: Game over  
Default : 12/15/2018 7:37 pm : link
In comment 14219697 Anakim said:
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Jets offense sucked, but Darnold can't make anything out of shit



So he is supposed to catch the balls too?



Of course not. Hence the "Darnold can't make anything out of shit"


Ah, I interpreted that the wrong way.
RE: Anakim  
Anakim : 12/15/2018 7:40 pm : link
In comment 14219699 joeinpa said:
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You re just pokin the bear right?

You couldn’t have watched this game and come away unimpressed by Darnold.......could you?


I was, at times. Other times, like the final drive, I wasn't.
Be Better if the Jets  
Percy : 12/15/2018 7:41 pm : link
Had better receivers. Darnold impressed the hell out of me. Any of those in the upcoming draft?
One possibility  
Red Dog : 12/15/2018 7:46 pm : link
I am one of those people who thinks Darnold is a very good prospect. And when watching the draft, it sure looked to me like he wasn't happy being chosen by the Jets instead of the GIANTS or maybe some other quality organization. (I do think Barkley was the right pick for the G-men though, and did before the draft, too.)

And I am also one of those people who thinks the Jets organization sucks and that there is a good possibility that Darnold will play out his rookie contract and leave.

Where could he go? If for some reason the GIANTS don't get their QB of the future in the 2020 or 2021 draft, it would be an easy move across the field for Sam when his Gang Green contract expires.
RE: One possibility  
Anakim : 12/15/2018 7:49 pm : link
In comment 14219707 Red Dog said:
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I am one of those people who thinks Darnold is a very good prospect. And when watching the draft, it sure looked to me like he wasn't happy being chosen by the Jets instead of the GIANTS or maybe some other quality organization. (I do think Barkley was the right pick for the G-men though, and did before the draft, too.)

And I am also one of those people who thinks the Jets organization sucks and that there is a good possibility that Darnold will play out his rookie contract and leave.

Where could he go? If for some reason the GIANTS don't get their QB of the future in the 2020 or 2021 draft, it would be an easy move across the field for Sam when his Gang Green contract expires.


What? I mean...I just...what?
IF  
Red Dog : 12/15/2018 7:55 pm : link
The GIANTS draft their QB of the future in 2020 or 2021, as I think they will try to do, and something happens to him (like the kid from LSU) or he doesn't work out (like Dave Brown), by the time Darnold's Jets contract expires, the G-men could be in the market for a QB and Darnold could be interested in moving on. Stranger things have happened.

And I didn't say this was GOING to happen, just that it is one possibility.
RE: IF  
Anakim : 12/15/2018 8:00 pm : link
In comment 14219713 Red Dog said:
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The GIANTS draft their QB of the future in 2020 or 2021, as I think they will try to do, and something happens to him (like the kid from LSU) or he doesn't work out (like Dave Brown), by the time Darnold's Jets contract expires, the G-men could be in the market for a QB and Darnold could be interested in moving on. Stranger things have happened.

And I didn't say this was GOING to happen, just that it is one possibility.


There's also a possibility that Patrick Mahomes will become a free agent in the coming years and may want to play for the Giants.

I don't understand the point of your post.
RE: RE: RE: Game over  
BigBlueShock : 12/15/2018 8:11 pm : link
In comment 14219698 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Jets offense sucked, but Darnold can't make anything out of shit



So he is supposed to catch the balls too?



And kick FGs, too. But him making people seethe is actually more than enough for me.

Wtf is this even supposed to mean? Why would Giants fans be seething about the Jets? Or Darnold? The only one seething is you because your still butt hurt because they didn’t take a QB. You’re embarrassing yourself, really. Literally the only thing you post about anymore is to give us all updates when one of the QBs actually makes a nice throw or leads a decent drive.

It is YOU making a big deal out of Darnold and the rest of the QBs. You. You’re absolutely obsessed with trying to be “right” that they should have taken a QB and it’s completely taken over your life. It’s time you get over it man. No matter how much you obsess over it, nothing is changing.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Game over  
dep026 : 12/15/2018 8:17 pm : link
In comment 14219719 BigBlueShock said:
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Jets offense sucked, but Darnold can't make anything out of shit



So he is supposed to catch the balls too?



And kick FGs, too. But him making people seethe is actually more than enough for me.


Wtf is this even supposed to mean? Why would Giants fans be seething about the Jets? Or Darnold? The only one seething is you because your still butt hurt because they didn’t take a QB. You’re embarrassing yourself, really. Literally the only thing you post about anymore is to give us all updates when one of the QBs actually makes a nice throw or leads a decent drive.

It is YOU making a big deal out of Darnold and the rest of the QBs. You. You’re absolutely obsessed with trying to be “right” that they should have taken a QB and it’s completely taken over your life. It’s time you get over it man. No matter how much you obsess over it, nothing is changing.


Damn.

Mic drop....
BBS is right  
Anakim : 12/15/2018 8:28 pm : link
Like I've said in the past, I don't have a problem with Darnold, Rosen, and Allen. They seem like genuinely good dudes. They do, especially Darnold. I never had a problem with Darnold's personality because the kid is easy to root for.

But I've seen all of Darnold and Rosen's games in their final year in college. I didn't like what I saw. Period. Darnold was an absolute turnover machine (and still is in the NFL) and Rosen had absolutely no mobility and had major injury concerns. Doesn't mean that if the Giants drafted one of them I would root against him. It also doesn't mean I want them to bust so I can be proven right. But the people who bring up Darnold every chance they get are extremely annoying and make me almost want to see him screw up so those people can shut the hell up.


Here's what we know: Darnold is very young. Extremely young. He's had some good moments and he's also had some bad moments...and he's had an injury. The jury is out and will remain out for the next few years.

Meanwhile, Saquon Barkley, the best player in the Draft, has validated where we took him. He's one of the best players in the NFL...AS A ROOKIE. He's running away with Offensive Rookie of the Year honors and has single-handedly kept us in most games.



Here's something to chew on. Let's say we did take Darnold and he played right away and it had been a mixed bag (which it has been for the Jets) with an injury. Then we saw how Saquon was doing. How he was taking the league by storm. How he was being mentioned in the same breath as Todd Gurley and Ezekiel Elliot as the top RB in the NFL. How he was being compared to Barry Sanders.


How many people would be bitching about not having Saquon on a regular basis? Even if we miraculously had more wins with Darnold as our QB, there would still be CONSTANT mentions of Saquon. How Saquon would've been the missing piece to our offense and how we could've gotten by with Eli or another QB had we had Saquon Barkley. How we would've been Super Bowl contenders with a team that had Saquon, OBJ, etc.


Accept the fact that we have the best rookie in the NFL. Accept the fact that while Darnold has looked good at times, he also has looked completely lost and leads the NFL in Interceptions...and no, the majority of those INTs were due to poor throws and decisions, not by the apparent lack of offensive talent on the Jets. And in return, I'lll accept the fact that the jury will be out on who we should've taken for the next few years.
PWN3D  
Mr. Bungle : 12/15/2018 8:28 pm : link
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The jury is still way, way out on Darnold  
PatersonPlank : 12/15/2018 8:38 pm : link
He hasn't shown yet he should have been a top pick. From what I see he could be an extremely average/back up QB.
Also after almost one season, IMO the only QB who has shown  
PatersonPlank : 12/15/2018 8:41 pm : link
he should have been a top pick is Mayfield.
Anakim  
joeinpa : 12/15/2018 8:47 pm : link
Now your last post makes a hell of a lot of sense. Wish more debates here were handled with well thought out arguments like this instead of personal attacks that derail what are often interesting topics.

Well done
Darnold  
Marty866b : 12/15/2018 8:57 pm : link
If some of you here don't see this guys potential, you are just too biased. He's the second youngest quarterback to EVER start a game in the NFL. He plays with crap all around him and he has won almost as many games as the Giant have. Yes, I wanted the Giants to select Darnold after seeing Barkley, I am glad they passed on Darnold. Let's see what Darnold looks like if he ever gets real NFL staring caliber skill players to play with.
Marty  
joeinpa : 12/15/2018 9:03 pm : link
I wanted Darnold too. I also love Barkley, but haven’t got to the point yet Incan say I m glad they passed on Darnold.

RE: The jury is still way, way out on Darnold  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 12/15/2018 9:12 pm : link
In comment 14219734 PatersonPlank said:
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He hasn't shown yet he should have been a top pick. From what I see he could be an extremely average/back up QB.

I can't think of a more damning criticism, he's Andy Dalton-esque!
joeinpa  
Marty866b : 12/15/2018 9:18 pm : link
I here you. Some posters here are ridiculous. Even Mahomes, as great as he is, sat for a full year and plays with am offense with tremendous skill players and one of the best offensive minds as his head coach. What does Darnold have? A bunch of crap and Todd Bowles, a defensive coach.
I like Darnold, but don't trust the Jets.  
bceagle05 : 12/15/2018 9:35 pm : link
They already complicated his development by sticking with a lame duck coach in his rookie year and, thus, forcing him to learn another new offense under another staff in year two. You also have to strike while the iron is hot when you have a young QB on a cheap contract - see the Rams, Eagles, Chiefs, etc. The Jets have a terrible roster - might take a couple of years to get it playoff caliber. They're already behind schedule.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Game over  
djm : 12/15/2018 9:39 pm : link
In comment 14219719 BigBlueShock said:
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Jets offense sucked, but Darnold can't make anything out of shit



So he is supposed to catch the balls too?



And kick FGs, too. But him making people seethe is actually more than enough for me.


Wtf is this even supposed to mean? Why would Giants fans be seething about the Jets? Or Darnold? The only one seething is you because your still butt hurt because they didn’t take a QB. You’re embarrassing yourself, really. Literally the only thing you post about anymore is to give us all updates when one of the QBs actually makes a nice throw or leads a decent drive.

It is YOU making a big deal out of Darnold and the rest of the QBs. You. You’re absolutely obsessed with trying to be “right” that they should have taken a QB and it’s completely taken over your life. It’s time you get over it man. No matter how much you obsess over it, nothing is changing.


I want to say this to the entire world. The so called debate has gotten a little better lately but still, it will never go away and its annoying at this point.
I just think it shouldn’t even matter how these QBs end up  
djm : 12/15/2018 9:47 pm : link
in my view with this qb Barkley thing is not really how good Barkley is its that there was virtually no way he wasn’t going to be very good or great. Barkley was the surest thing to come out of college in years. Anytime you can get a sure thing great player you take him. It was so simple. The giants knew Barkley was the goods. THAT’S why they took him! Simple NFL draft stuff! See great player that you are certain of and draft great player. All this stupid beaten dead horse shit giants needed this or giants needed that and should have taken this qb or that qb —- no... they took the guy they had an absolute conviction on and the guy ends up being better than we expected! Debate over and it was over before it began.
For some of us the debate  
joeinpa : 12/15/2018 9:50 pm : link
Is still interesting and not annoying at all.

I don’t think there are any rules stating it can’t be discussed. Actually it still seems to be pretty popular.

Do what I do with topics In find annoying ..... avoid them, they re not worth discussing
This is..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 12/15/2018 9:53 pm : link
pretty damn ironic:

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And kick FGs, too. But him making people seethe is actually more than enough for me.


"Seethe"??

Who is actually seething over Darnold? I do see a few posters who continually try to act as if Darnold has played well this year, and not surprisingly, they are the same posters who wanted the Giants to take a QB.

Darnold might turn into a very good QB, but it is funny that we keep being told there are several glimpse a game of his "potential", when he's made more negative plays than positive ones.

"Seethe". LOL.
RE: Also after almost one season, IMO the only QB who has shown  
Anakim : 12/15/2018 10:12 pm : link
In comment 14219735 PatersonPlank said:
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he should have been a top pick is Mayfield.


Correct and I had Baker as my top QB
RE: Anakim  
Anakim : 12/15/2018 10:13 pm : link
In comment 14219738 joeinpa said:
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Now your last post makes a hell of a lot of sense. Wish more debates here were handled with well thought out arguments like this instead of personal attacks that derail what are often interesting topics.

Well done


Thank you
Welcome to BBI  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/15/2018 10:47 pm : link
where arguing about the draft eight months ago makes allegedly grown men wish failure upon 21 year old rookies to be able to appear 'right' on the internet.
Or..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 12/15/2018 10:54 pm : link
welcome to fandom where technically, wishing failure on anyone who isn't a member of the team you root for has some logic behind it.

Unlike "fans" who root for their own team's players to fail so they can appear right.
Jets  
Paulie Walnuts : 12/16/2018 2:10 am : link
Need players around Darnold.. hes the deal
Darnold will be a very good NFL QB  
BlueLou'sBack : 12/16/2018 2:12 am : link
anyone who watched enough of him playing at USC could see that easily the past two years.

He's got the arm, the mobility, the charisma to lead, the drive and I guess the intelligence. He took a caca USC team going nowhere without him to bowl wins.

He might even be great and a hall of famer given a supporting cast.

Get over it.

RE: Jets  
BigBlueShock : 12/16/2018 5:49 am : link
In comment 14219892 Paulie Walnuts said:
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Need players around Darnold.. hes the deal

Here’s what’s funny about this though. Earlier in the season when the Giants were struggling, Barkley would have a very good game but the Giants would lose. So what was the QB crowd saying? “See, that’s why RBs don’t matter. They can have great games and still lose. They aren’t important”. Yet, when Darnold has a good game but the Jets continue to lose, they say “the Jets suck, they have no talent. It’s not Darnolds fault, the team around him sucks”.

Barkley is supposed to carry the entire team on his shoulders in his first season otherwise he’s a bad pick while Darnold gets to say that the team around him sucks. Yet, exactly which one of these teams was 3-13 last season? Hint....it wasn’t the Jets.
We still need a QB  
joe48 : 12/16/2018 7:27 am : link
Even Dallas has a functional offense with Dak and his flaws. Hopefully we find a game manager while Barkley is still productive.
RE: Darnold will be a very good NFL QB  
Deejboy : 12/16/2018 9:56 am : link
In comment 14219893 BlueLou'sBack said:
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anyone who watched enough of him playing at USC could see that easily the past two years.

He's got the arm, the mobility, the charisma to lead, the drive and I guess the intelligence. He took a caca USC team going nowhere without him to bowl wins.

He might even be great and a hall of famer given a supporting cast.

Get over it.

It's hilarious. Where were you a couple months ago when he was on pace to throw 40 interceptions and Jets fans wanted to sit him? You are also rewriting history since the USC teams he lead had talent. Darnold's college career is a mixed bag where his ability never matched his results and he was turnover prone which has followed him to the NFL. Now all of a sudden he is a future HOFer and great player cause he had one good game? That is Sam Darnold. He was a roller coaster player at USC and will likely continue to be in the NFL. Ups and downs. Is Carson Palmer a HOFer? Cause that is what Darnold is IF everything works out and it usually doesn't. Palmer made 3 pro bowls but an up and down player who turned the ball over a lot but also threw for a lot of TDs.

The NY media will overhype just like they did with him early in the season. Then they disappeared when he was awful. Now after this week they will proclaim him a HOFer and Joe Namath. Cause that is the way fans and the media are.
RE: This is..  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 12/16/2018 10:00 am : link
In comment 14219773 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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pretty damn ironic:



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And kick FGs, too. But him making people seethe is actually more than enough for me.



"Seethe"??

Who is actually seething over Darnold? I do see a few posters who continually try to act as if Darnold has played well this year, and not surprisingly, they are the same posters who wanted the Giants to take a QB.

Darnold might turn into a very good QB, but it is funny that we keep being told there are several glimpse a game of his "potential", when he's made more negative plays than positive ones.

"Seethe". LOL.

He got completely exposed on the last couple of drives where the D knew he was passing. Hes the anti Eli, raises a lot of concern. Looked like awful garbage, and yet bbi keeps telling me he's so gud.
Amazing how people on here push Darnold as if he's an All Pro  
PatersonPlank : 12/16/2018 11:15 am : link
when he has yet to even show he's average. Just because he was good at USC means nothing, every player in the NFL was the best at their college. Most college QB's can't cut it. Its also annoying when these same BBI'ers, after cutting Darnold slack on everything, blast Eli for every little thing (even though he's accomplished more than Darnold could ever dream of). Hell if Eli completes a pass, people here rewind the play and see if Eli should have thrown to a better option.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Game over  
Dave in Hoboken : 12/16/2018 4:11 pm : link
In comment 14219719 BigBlueShock said:
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Jets offense sucked, but Darnold can't make anything out of shit



So he is supposed to catch the balls too?



And kick FGs, too. But him making people seethe is actually more than enough for me.


Wtf is this even supposed to mean? Why would Giants fans be seething about the Jets? Or Darnold? The only one seething is you because your still butt hurt because they didn’t take a QB. You’re embarrassing yourself, really. Literally the only thing you post about anymore is to give us all updates when one of the QBs actually makes a nice throw or leads a decent drive.

It is YOU making a big deal out of Darnold and the rest of the QBs. You. You’re absolutely obsessed with trying to be “right” that they should have taken a QB and it’s completely taken over your life. It’s time you get over it man. No matter how much you obsess over it, nothing is changing.


You're right. Nothing is changing. For the 7th consecutive season, the Giants are once again a joke.

Good stuff.
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