It looks like everyone is afraid they will get hurt. It is obvious and pathetic. What happened to wrapping up, tackling the legs? two hand touch in the NFL
Their guys just beat the shit out of our guys right in our house. That has to stop. Forget individual bad play. Our identity as a team right now is we are pussies.
Their guys just beat the shit out of our guys right in our house. That has to stop. Forget individual bad play. Our identity as a team right now is we are pussies.
In comment 14221548 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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But it is years of reaching for the flash and not enough focus on the trenches.
That's exactly right. Reese would build a team from the outside in rather than from the ball outwards. We will be cleaning up that mess for at least two more years.
There were a lot of resources invested in the line, they just missed
It looks like everyone is afraid they will get hurt. It is obvious and pathetic. What happened to wrapping up, tackling the legs? two hand touch in the NFL
Defense did not play well, but it gave the team an opportunity to win. Manning and the OL gave away 7 points, and when the offense and play-caller dont show up at all, it really doesnt matter what the defense does. This loss rests totally on the impotent coaching, play-calling, and execution of the offense.
Lines on both sides of the ball, we will not win anything. Were not winning in the Division without doing so. DG knows this and has spoken exactly about doing this very thing, but it will take him at least another year or two till he can accomplish that. Resources are not what they were in 2015 when Reese had the huge Free Agency period and spent on Jenkins, Snacks and OV.
Focus on Center and RT exclusively on O and bring back Brown at RG. He can hold the fort down for at least another year. If we go QB, then so be it, but that will limit improvement of the lines to a 2nd round pick and then 4th rounders, as we dont have a 3rd. On D we need an anchor at 3-4 NT or DT, an Edge Rusher another ILB and Free Safety. Thats a minimum of 6 more starters needed! Not an easy task for any GM.
This team is certainly another year or two away from being a more competitive team. Trenches have to be solidified first and foremost.
Lines on both sides of the ball, we will not win anything. Were not winning in the Division without doing so. DG knows this and has spoken exactly about doing this very thing, but it will take him at least another year or two till he can accomplish that. Resources are not what they were in 2015 when Reese had the huge Free Agency period and spent on Jenkins, Snacks and OV.
Focus on Center and RT exclusively on O and bring back Brown at RG. He can hold the fort down for at least another year. If we go QB, then so be it, but that will limit improvement of the lines to a 2nd round pick and then 4th rounders, as we dont have a 3rd. On D we need an anchor at 3-4 NT or DT, an Edge Rusher another ILB and Free Safety. Thats a minimum of 6 more starters needed! Not an easy task for any GM.
This team is certainly another year or two away from being a more competitive team. Trenches have to be solidified first and foremost.
Even if they somehow address all those spots you mentioned, nobody is taking this franchise seriously until they find a QB. And what will set everything back a bit will he if they need to sell off premium draft capital to do so in this draft or the next.
very realistic chance we end up winning 2 more games than last year ..
pathetic
What did you expect with this schedule? I was on 4-6 wins since the schedule was announced back in April. If we didnt play Nick Mullins, Chase Daniels, and Mark Sanchez, in particular, wed probsbly finish 2-14. 5-11 is giving some fans here a false sense of how bad this team is, if you can believe it. Ive seen some were not far off sentiments. Sorry, but I dont agree with that at all.
Christ, the OL got whipped on virtually EVERY play. God could have been calling the plays and it wouldnt have helped. The execution was beyond putrid. Now If you want to kill Shurmur for their preparation or lack thereof- fine. He was very unhappy with the effort and execution in his post game but thats on him. He has to know how to get his team to function in those conditions. Vrabel had Tenn ready no excuses.
we still suck. Dont be fooled by the recent wins. The best I can say about this year is we got some good young players and they are getting experience. Thats about it.
very realistic chance we end up winning 2 more games than last year ..
pathetic
What did you expect with this schedule? I was on 4-6 wins since the schedule was announced back in April. If we didnt play Nick Mullins, Chase Daniels, and Mark Sanchez, in particular, wed probsbly finish 2-14. 5-11 is giving some fans here a false sense of how bad this team is, if you can believe it. Ive seen some were not far off sentiments. Sorry, but I dont agree with that at all.
we're crazy bad, but in today's NFL it can be turned around in a few years. 2 good draft and FA years allows you to replace your 8 worst players out of 22 with 8 above average to great players. you're a whole new team.
in the Yale Bowl! Terrible, terrible performance by players are considered professionals! How shameful it must have been for them to see other teams celebrating on their field. What ever happened to Giants pride?
better. I'll admit the thought of being able to compete for the division next year entered my mind mainly because of the competition. This game flushed that thought. Hopefully it did for the brass too.
The Titans looked like a big team compared to the Giants. Don't know if it is because of Henry but the D looked big and physical too.
Christ, the OL got whipped on virtually EVERY play. God could have been calling the plays and it wouldnt have helped. The execution was beyond putrid. Now If you want to kill Shurmur for their preparation or lack thereof- fine. He was very unhappy with the effort and execution in his post game but thats on him. He has to know how to get his team to function in those conditions. Vrabel had Tenn ready no excuses.
Play calling is the eternal whipping boy of the uninitiated, if it works you're a genius , if it doesn't you're a jackass. never changes.
Also, did they split barks out to try wide, to mitigate the stack?
Did they use two tight ends? Etc.
Also, did they split barks out to try wide, to mitigate the stack?
Did they use two tight ends? Etc.
Couldn't run, couldn't catch, couldn't tackle - game summary.
Secretariat is dead
(2OLs, 1DL, 2-3 LBs,2 Free Safeties) in no particular order.
Maybe a tight end if it's an 'OL light'..maybe a cornerback.
E.X.A.C.T.L.Y.
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But it is years of reaching for the flash and not enough focus on the trenches.
That's exactly right. Reese would build a team from the outside in rather than from the ball outwards. We will be cleaning up that mess for at least two more years.
There were a lot of resources invested in the line, they just missed
But he's an ADULT!!!
Defense did not play well, but it gave the team an opportunity to win. Manning and the OL gave away 7 points, and when the offense and play-caller dont show up at all, it really doesnt matter what the defense does. This loss rests totally on the impotent coaching, play-calling, and execution of the offense.
Focus on Center and RT exclusively on O and bring back Brown at RG. He can hold the fort down for at least another year. If we go QB, then so be it, but that will limit improvement of the lines to a 2nd round pick and then 4th rounders, as we dont have a 3rd. On D we need an anchor at 3-4 NT or DT, an Edge Rusher another ILB and Free Safety. Thats a minimum of 6 more starters needed! Not an easy task for any GM.
This team is certainly another year or two away from being a more competitive team. Trenches have to be solidified first and foremost.
Focus on Center and RT exclusively on O and bring back Brown at RG. He can hold the fort down for at least another year. If we go QB, then so be it, but that will limit improvement of the lines to a 2nd round pick and then 4th rounders, as we dont have a 3rd. On D we need an anchor at 3-4 NT or DT, an Edge Rusher another ILB and Free Safety. Thats a minimum of 6 more starters needed! Not an easy task for any GM.
This team is certainly another year or two away from being a more competitive team. Trenches have to be solidified first and foremost.
Even if they somehow address all those spots you mentioned, nobody is taking this franchise seriously until they find a QB. And what will set everything back a bit will he if they need to sell off premium draft capital to do so in this draft or the next.
pathetic
pathetic
What did you expect with this schedule? I was on 4-6 wins since the schedule was announced back in April. If we didnt play Nick Mullins, Chase Daniels, and Mark Sanchez, in particular, wed probsbly finish 2-14. 5-11 is giving some fans here a false sense of how bad this team is, if you can believe it. Ive seen some were not far off sentiments. Sorry, but I dont agree with that at all.
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very realistic chance we end up winning 2 more games than last year ..
pathetic
What did you expect with this schedule? I was on 4-6 wins since the schedule was announced back in April. If we didnt play Nick Mullins, Chase Daniels, and Mark Sanchez, in particular, wed probsbly finish 2-14. 5-11 is giving some fans here a false sense of how bad this team is, if you can believe it. Ive seen some were not far off sentiments. Sorry, but I dont agree with that at all.
we're crazy bad, but in today's NFL it can be turned around in a few years. 2 good draft and FA years allows you to replace your 8 worst players out of 22 with 8 above average to great players. you're a whole new team.
Other QBs buy time and make them pay for something like that
The Titans looked like a big team compared to the Giants. Don't know if it is because of Henry but the D looked big and physical too.
Play calling is the eternal whipping boy of the uninitiated, if it works you're a genius , if it doesn't you're a jackass. never changes.