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We shouldn't make too much of this game

BlackLight : 12/16/2018 4:47 pm
In the same way that we were never as bad as a 1-7 team, we were never a team that really belonged in the playoffs. The clock was going to strike midnight eventually, and today was the day.
all we did was fuck up our draft position  
SHO'NUFF : 12/16/2018 4:48 pm : link
to add to it, we fucked up Saquon's pace to break some records after today.
The Titans are mediocre because of their offense  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/16/2018 4:49 pm : link
but their defense is what you can expect to find on a playoff level team, so there are some things to take from it.

The Bears game is just one of those dice rolls that happen in football. Catch a team with a backup QB taking you lightly.
How did we fuck ups our draft position?  
superspynyg : 12/16/2018 4:50 pm : link
We moved up in the draft by 2 spots. We are now in the 6-8 range.
RE: How did we fuck ups our draft position?  
SHO'NUFF : 12/16/2018 4:52 pm : link
In comment 14221695 superspynyg said:
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We moved up in the draft by 2 spots. We are now in the 6-8 range.


i'm talking about the last few wins
RE: all we did was fuck up our draft position  
BlackLight : 12/16/2018 4:56 pm : link
In comment 14221683 SHO'NUFF said:
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to add to it, we fucked up Saquon's pace to break some records after today.


Good point. We should have totally kept playing like shit to tank the season for a higher draft pick. While simultaneously playing awesome to help Barkley break some records.
RE: RE: all we did was fuck up our draft position  
SHO'NUFF : 12/16/2018 5:00 pm : link
In comment 14221720 BlackLight said:
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In comment 14221683 SHO'NUFF said:


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to add to it, we fucked up Saquon's pace to break some records after today.



Good point. We should have totally kept playing like shit to tank the season for a higher draft pick. While simultaneously playing awesome to help Barkley break some records.


YES!!
What we should read into this game is the Giants need to also  
SterlingArcher : 12/16/2018 5:02 pm : link
build the front 7. The oline is a make shift and playing at the level of they are, no better than average. The dline must get some help in the middle to stop the bleeding by the gashes RB's are inflicting on them. How many more days until the draft?
I can't believe Jacksonville couldn't beat Washington today.  
Tom in NY : 12/16/2018 5:07 pm : link
The Giants need to get in front of Jax in order to get the QB of their choice...it may take a trade up now, unless by some miracle Jax wins one of their last two (@ Miami next week or @ Houston Week 17).
When your best run from scrimmage.....  
thrunthrublue : 12/16/2018 5:13 pm : link
Is by your punter, as coach Parcells says “you are, what your record says you are”....
RE: all we did was fuck up our draft position  
Brown Recluse : 12/16/2018 5:18 pm : link
In comment 14221683 SHO'NUFF said:
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to add to it, we fucked up Saquon's pace to break some records after today.


Typical Madden generation response.
We shouldn't make much of this anything after 1-7  
Go Terps : 12/16/2018 5:19 pm : link
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RE: RE: all we did was fuck up our draft position  
SHO'NUFF : 12/16/2018 5:24 pm : link
In comment 14221776 Brown Recluse said:
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In comment 14221683 SHO'NUFF said:


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to add to it, we fucked up Saquon's pace to break some records after today.



Typical Madden generation response.


I don't play Madden. This is all in hindsight of course. I enjoyed the last few wins, but in hindsight, we would've been better off losing knowing we have no shot to make the playoffs.

The Saquon records are a personal preference that I would have enjoyed despite our W-L record, but the team couldn't help him out today, so it's a double whammy.
Good news  
antdog24 : 12/16/2018 5:36 pm : link
is we only need a left tackle a center a right guard and a right tackle and we should be right back in the the thick of it next year.
right tackle  
bc4life : 12/16/2018 5:38 pm : link
and center is undecided although Shurmur said he liked Halapio
Problems in the trenches ...  
Bluesbreaker : 12/16/2018 6:05 pm : link
It just further exposed where we need help once we get the
O-line shored up and add someone opposite OBJ . a guy like
Josh Gordon would be nice aside from the gamble .
We need more help on Defense either one of the Bama Boys the
LT and DT would be a nice start . I myself have seen enough of OV he was terrible today . We got pushed around up the
middle and we don't have a MLB that can stack and fill
I still think we bring Collins back Ogletree has had a good
season but Goodson gets pushed around too easily and lacks speed . We might look into FS ans CB not to mention Edge
Rusher although I feel Carter will develop .
Yes Eli had a bd turnover and close to a pick six but with
Zero in the run game and pass blocking wasn't much better
RT Guard and Center are needs as well I would look for another TE with size as well .
Draft pick number?  
5BowlsSoon : 12/16/2018 6:18 pm : link
There are 6 teams with worse records than us so as of today we can’t be any lower than 7.

But, there are 5 teams 5-9. So where do we stand as of today?
7, 8, 9, 10, or 11

Thanks.
Ha, ha!  
Percy : 12/16/2018 6:24 pm : link
Didn't think it was possible to get a smile out of me about this game. Good work!
Add Gordon  
PaulN : 12/16/2018 6:33 pm : link
We have one headcase, let's add another.
We shouldn't make much...  
silverfox : 12/16/2018 6:50 pm : link
...of the last several years either. Not much at all.
RE: What we should read into this game is the Giants need to also  
Ivan15 : 12/16/2018 7:43 pm : link
In comment 14221734 SterlingArcher said:
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build the front 7. The oline is a make shift and playing at the level of they are, no better than average. The dline must get some help in the middle to stop the bleeding by the gashes RB's are inflicting on them. How many more days until the draft?


You can’t blame the d-line for RBs running wild. The defense is designed for the line to clog up some of the holes so the LBs can make the tackles. The defense looks lousy when the LBs and strong safety can’t tackle or fill.
I think the game was a good measuring stick.  
Since1965 : 12/16/2018 7:56 pm : link
The OL has looked pretty good the past few weeks against lousy defenses. Today, they needed to be able to run the ball, and the blocking was non-existent. Clearly need significant upgrades. Also, Manning was immobile and slow once again. With a line like this, they cannot win with him against good defenses. Even if they draft a lineman or two, they will be work in progress which will not do Eli any good. They need a younger, more mobile QB. Finish the season and move on.
RE: Problems in the trenches ...  
gmenatlarge : 12/17/2018 8:09 am : link
In comment 14221912 Bluesbreaker said:
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It just further exposed where we need help once we get the
O-line shored up and add someone opposite OBJ . a guy like
Josh Gordon would be nice aside from the gamble .
We need more help on Defense either one of the Bama Boys the
LT and DT would be a nice start . I myself have seen enough of OV he was terrible today . We got pushed around up the
middle and we don't have a MLB that can stack and fill
I still think we bring Collins back Ogletree has had a good
season but Goodson gets pushed around too easily and lacks speed . We might look into FS ans CB not to mention Edge
Rusher although I feel Carter will develop .
Yes Eli had a bd turnover and close to a pick six but with
Zero in the run game and pass blocking wasn't much better
RT Guard and Center are needs as well I would look for another TE with size as well .


You realize that you just named 10 players as areas of need, why don't we just draft a new team? LOL
An expected crash to earth  
JonC : 12/17/2018 8:16 am : link
Giants faced an opponent with better lines, more physicality and confidence, and got smacked down.

Jon  
bc4life : 12/17/2018 12:07 pm : link
despite Titans' OLine - defenders had multiple opportunities to get Henry down in backfield and line of scrimmage. Poor tackling did them in.

Agree about their DLine versus our OLine
and the DL  
bc4life : 12/17/2018 12:08 pm : link
is pretty young - new system, getting used to paying together.
playing  
bc4life : 12/17/2018 12:08 pm : link
together
and without OBJ  
bc4life : 12/17/2018 12:09 pm : link
defense could play pass differently.

They are a better team further along in their development.
RE: Jon  
JonC : 12/17/2018 12:14 pm : link
In comment 14223277 bc4life said:
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despite Titans' OLine - defenders had multiple opportunities to get Henry down in backfield and line of scrimmage. Poor tackling did them in.

Agree about their DLine versus our OLine


For sure they did, their OL missed Conklin.
Due to his second major injury  
bc4life : 12/17/2018 12:26 pm : link
in his young career. Wonder if he'll have the injury curse?

This is the worst tackling defense I can remember seeing..  
Tom from LI : 12/17/2018 12:37 pm : link
they are fantastic escorts though.. the way they escorted Henry yesterday was amazing.

They can't get off the field. They are their own worse enemy.

I don't know why the Titans would get to the 50 and then stop running the ball? Why was Henry getting tired of running in open field?

I honestly can't see this getting fixed next year either.

I am way more concerned about the talent on Defense over getting a new QB.

As bad a show as the defense was  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/17/2018 3:18 pm : link
If the game is out of reach because the defense allowed 17 points, its your offense that sucks.
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