I am not looking to get into back and forth. Just people's opinions. What do you think are the 3 most important positions to upgrade. We shoould have a top 10 pick, so we should get a premium player. Hopefully this doesnt get into a debate or shitshow. Just looking for positions.... My top 3.
1. Edge Rusher
2. Right Tackle
3. Free Saftey
And go.....
RT
DE
Offensive Line
We were man-handled on both sides of the ball today by a Meh football team.
Need to get bigger and tougher up front Offensively and Defensively
Offensive Line
We were man-handled on both sides of the ball today by a Meh football team.
Need to get bigger and tougher up front Offensively and Defensively
We don’t play Henry every week and we have a bunch of young players getting their feet wet right now.
If we went after the BPA Tackle or DE that’s what I want.
Free Safety
another Corner
Linebacker
Wide Receiver
I understand. But you have to calculate decisions within the context of who will be available whether rookie or vet, imo.
I am not enamored with the QBs in the draft. And if you arent picking one in the first round.... why bother in the 2nd or 3rd? I rather get players of need that can impact than projects.
Round 1 if the quality is there.
Followed by center, free safety, another lb, another safety and another ol player. Maybe corner maybe TE
DE
Linebackers
Tight Ends
Franchise QB
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My reaction to this poll wasn't to insinuate that we should pick a quarterback. I just don't see how a quarterback isn't in our top 3 needs. I firmly believe that we are going to pick the best edge rusher available. Out side of blitzing, we have no one who can get to the passer.
I am not enamored with the QBs in the draft. And if you arent picking one in the first round.... why bother in the 2nd or 3rd? I rather get players of need that can impact than projects.
This team will be mired in qb hell if they don't have some luck break their way in terms of available options, draft and the Eli decision post 2019. It's a really sketchy position to be in.
Pass rusher
FS
2) Best Player Available
3) Best Player Available
We drafted Hill and Tomlinson in the last two drafts. You cant put all your top resources in one spot.
Instead, they took flyers on two guys who will never help this team. Big misses and wasted picks. Terrible job.
And if they were really serious, they would have picked a QB last year.
I like the Barkley pick a lot because he's a superstar. However, there will always be that "but".
Every mistake Eli makes is magnified by last year's draft.
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My reaction to this poll wasn't to insinuate that we should pick a quarterback. I just don't see how a quarterback isn't in our top 3 needs. I firmly believe that we are going to pick the best edge rusher available. Out side of blitzing, we have no one who can get to the passer.
I am not enamored with the QBs in the draft. And if you arent picking one in the first round.... why bother in the 2nd or 3rd? I rather get players of need that can impact than projects.
This team will be mired in qb hell if they don't have some luck break their way in terms of available options, draft and the Eli decision post 2019. It's a really sketchy position to be in.
Not much different then Drew Brees this last season. He signed like a 1 year deal I believe. I could see that happen on 2020 as a last ditch thing if it doesn’t look good for drafting a top QB. We will probably have to move up in 2 years. I think we are better next year then this year.
That's the extent to which I'd draft a QB this year.
Edge rusher(2)
LBer
FS
C
SS
CB
RG
WR
TE that can block AND catch
QB
I put QB low on the list, because I don't think there is one out there next year....
Too many business decisions from Jenkins, and his play has fallen off...
Big decision has to be made on OV.....
Plenty of the most physically talented QBs with all the measurables aren't consistent winners.
The QB comes in 2020.
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I'd like to see a bit more of the quarterbacks coming out and how they throw and test at the combine before discounting them all. Don't forget, Mahomes was a very late riser.
I wouldn't spend a top 7 pick on any of the QBs coming out and I wouldn't draft for need at that position right now.
Give it a year and build your team from the inside out. This team needs to address their line play thru FA, trade and the draft.
They are abysmal up front on both sides.
This. The lines must be rebuilt and the oline is far worse than the dline.
You cannot force the QB pick to get one just because. Build an oline and chances of winning even with a marginal QB goes up.
The dline needs somebody that can get after the QB.
3 - Defensive end: There's going to be a bunch of first round caliber 3-4 type ends available in this draft.
1. Edge rusher (great loaded draft)
2. Safety
3. OC
4. RT
5. Cb
2. OC
3. LB/ER
The truth of the matter, however, is that we need a young, talented QB to succeed in this new version of the NFL. In order to acquire said QB, we very likely will need to be really bad next year. Top of the 1st Round QBs are not guaranteed to be successful -- and, yes, it is possible to land a Russell Wilson/Joe Montana in the third round but HIGHLY unlikely -- but most successful QBs in this league over the last twenty or thirty years were top of the first round picks.
How do we square that reality with the desire to succeed, or at least improve, next year? It is clear that we need significant upgrades on the OL first and foremost in order to take advantage of our one true weapon, Saquon (it's hard to consider OBJ a significant weapon when he misses so many games). We do need to improve the pass rush, but that issue strikes me as secondary to the OL. Finally, we need FS and SS who can tackle and cover. They don't have to be small LBs like Collins; they just need to be good open field tacklers.
This run-up to the draft will define DG's plan for this team -- a team that has not been competitive for far too many years. It will be fun to watch and discuss.
...a real, meaningful and lasting re-build will not occur until we find Eli's replacement.
So, while we clearly need O-line help, Edge help, LB help, Secondary help, etc. your thread starter -- by excluding QB -- misses the forest for the trees IMO.
...a real, meaningful and lasting re-build will not occur until we find Eli's replacement.
So, while we clearly need O-line help, Edge help, LB help, Secondary help, etc. your thread starter -- by excluding QB -- misses the forest for the trees IMO.
No, a rebuild will be complete when they get a QB. It starts with the lines. You can get the best QB in the draft and if that oline is not repaired that young QB will be one of the Carr brothers all over again. Build a solid oline and a mediocre QB will win - see Dak Prescott and Nick Foles as examples.
If the dline cannot stop runs or put pressure on with a 4 man rush, that new QB never gets on the field.
So the forest you can't see is the giants up front.
RT
3. Practice Squad QB
time to start doing this changeover in volume...
...a real, meaningful and lasting re-build will not occur until we find Eli's replacement.
So, while we clearly need O-line help, Edge help, LB help, Secondary help, etc. your thread starter -- by excluding QB -- misses the forest for the trees IMO.
So what if the Giants aren’t enamored with the QBs this year?
Take one just cause? That makes absolutely no sense.
Or do u want to start over with the question so you get the answer you’re looking for?
I dont know if they will or wont be. I am jsut giving an opinion. But if the Giants brass do not think they are worth a 1st round selection - then they shouldnt force it either.
If we've learned anything over the years it's that you cannot successfully draft the core and the lines if you use early picks on the skinny glamour positions.
Still working through the vapor of Jerry Reese
This would argue for BPA/trading for picks
2) Best Player Available
3) Best Player Available
It's just about that simple. (Sigh.)
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1) Best Player Available
2) Best Player Available
3) Best Player Available
It's just about that simple. (Sigh.)
I mean it's one thing to ask what our biggest needs are. It's another thing to ask who we should take in the Draft. I'm going to say best player available aloost every time
2)Playmaker at LB or S
3)Tight End- EE is not a true TE and in today's NFL a guy who can block some and catch passes is needed. EE can't block and his receiving is hit or miss and Ellison has dropped off the radar completely.
Yes, very true, which is why QBs often get "bumped up" due to positional value.
On another note, I see Andre Szmyt is only the ninth ever unanimous All American in SU Football history. My son won the kicking contest at Cuse fan fest back on 8/19 in Manley and kicked against him - said he didn't miss. I told him at them time that Hofrichter would be the starting kicker, but this kid came out of nowhere.