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dep026 : 12/16/2018 9:07 pm
I am not looking to get into back and forth. Just people's opinions. What do you think are the 3 most important positions to upgrade. We shoould have a top 10 pick, so we should get a premium player. Hopefully this doesnt get into a debate or shitshow. Just looking for positions.... My top 3.

1. Edge Rusher
2. Right Tackle
3. Free Saftey

And go.....
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Right tackle  
Ira : 12/16/2018 9:09 pm : link
Center
Free Safety
Edge Rusher
QB  
cosmicj : 12/16/2018 9:10 pm : link
But if the prospect isn’t there, don’t force it. This looks like a classic BPA situation but a lot will happen between now and draft day.
If you are breaking it down by each specific position  
robbieballs2003 : 12/16/2018 9:11 pm : link
All of these are needs: RT, RG, OC, Edge, Edge, LB, CB, FS, SS, and of course QB. Because of that I will go with the most important to the success of our team.

QB
Edge
RT
That is a pretty  
section125 : 12/16/2018 9:12 pm : link
decent list. Think I'd have to agree.


RE: That is a pretty  
section125 : 12/16/2018 9:13 pm : link
In comment 14222212 section125 said:
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decent list. Think I'd have to agree, with Dep

I think I’m with you  
djm : 12/16/2018 9:14 pm : link
...same order. I’d add qb to the list but the three positions that are in dire need of professional talent are ER, RT and FS.

Qb is the most important position and the giants are older and somewhat limited with Eli but the qb position isn’t in a state of crisis like some other spots.
Quarterback  
Marty866b : 12/16/2018 9:14 pm : link
Is not in the top 3 positions to upgrade? Yeah,OK.
We need a Center and RT badly along the OL  
The_Boss : 12/16/2018 9:15 pm : link
Just as we do a playmaker at FS (enough with guys like Darian Thompson and Curtis Riley)

And this team isn’t going to be taken seriously until they bring in Eli’s successor. I’m sure the big debate this draft season will be to take a qb or not (I’m hoping we do not, but that’s an argument for another day).

All that being said, stud edge rusher is probably the most pressing need.
A talented FS  
Bill in TN : 12/16/2018 9:16 pm : link
can certainly improve the D, but a rookie? Don't see any Ronnie Lotts out there.
I'd go ER, RT, LB. Got to fix the D.
I would say C, RG and RT  
SHO'NUFF : 12/16/2018 9:16 pm : link
but you don't select C and G with a top 10 pick, so you would think RT would be the pick. But with a Top 10 pick, I would go with an edge rusher.
RE: Quarterback  
B in ALB : 12/16/2018 9:17 pm : link
In comment 14222218 Marty866b said:
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Is not in the top 3 positions to upgrade? Yeah,OK.


Based on the QB class and Eli having at least another year with the Giants - why would it be?
RE: RE: Quarterback  
EricJ : 12/16/2018 9:21 pm : link
In comment 14222223 B in ALB said:
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In comment 14222218 Marty866b said:


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Is not in the top 3 positions to upgrade? Yeah,OK.



Based on the QB class and Eli having at least another year with the Giants - why would it be?


I think you have to say IF a prospect worth taking when it is our turn to draft. To me, the three positions are the ones of greatest need... whether a guy is there when we select is another thing.
I'll just add one.  
Diver_Down : 12/16/2018 9:22 pm : link
Williams.

Jonah, Quinnen, or Greedy. All three would be day 1 starters. I would prefer the OL addressed first, but take your pick of any of the three.
Kicker and Punter  
fkap : 12/16/2018 9:22 pm : link
are about the only positions where BPA wouldn't be a good choice. It just boils down to value pick at which round (ie probably isn't likely to select a OC at #1).

If the question is which position would I take, assuming a stud at any position, I would go QB 1st, edge rusher 2nd, OL 3rd.
Would love a new center  
BBelle21 : 12/16/2018 9:23 pm : link
.
Lol  
mattyblue : 12/16/2018 9:25 pm : link
no QB option?
.  
giantsFC : 12/16/2018 9:27 pm : link
Pass rushing LB for this god aweful defensive scheme
QB
2nd pass rusher or FS
B in Alb  
Marty866b : 12/16/2018 9:31 pm : link
I'd like to see a bit more of the quarterbacks coming out and how they throw and test at the combine before discounting them all. Don't forget, Mahomes was a very late riser.
BPA....  
morrison40 : 12/16/2018 9:32 pm : link
Tooooo many holes to fill
This is going to be  
jtfuoco : 12/16/2018 9:32 pm : link
rough draft because of where we are picking we are going to fall outside of the elite Pass rushers which this team desperately needs. The Qbs outside of JH wont be worth a top 10 pick but I am afraid that the 2nd Tier ones will be gone before the teams 2nd round pick. So the Giants options might be very limited.
Mine:  
markky : 12/16/2018 9:34 pm : link
Center
Edge Rusher
Right Tackle
Cover Safety
QB

Go for the best available of these.
My 3  
Rick in Dallas : 12/16/2018 9:35 pm : link
RT
ER
RG
RE: B in Alb  
B in ALB : 12/16/2018 9:35 pm : link
In comment 14222256 Marty866b said:
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I'd like to see a bit more of the quarterbacks coming out and how they throw and test at the combine before discounting them all. Don't forget, Mahomes was a very late riser.


I wouldn't spend a top 7 pick on any of the QBs coming out and I wouldn't draft for need at that position right now.

Give it a year and build your team from the inside out. This team needs to address their line play thru FA, trade and the draft.

They are abysmal up front on both sides.
Pretty straightforward to me...  
bw in dc : 12/16/2018 9:35 pm : link
no order.

QB
OL
Edge
perhaps some other team  
fkap : 12/16/2018 9:37 pm : link
will be in love with someone at our pick, while we don't think we'd get good value at that spot. a trade down could garner us additional picks, if the premium prospects are gone by the time we're on the clock. Takes two to tango, though.
Edge Rusher could also be an OLB,  
Simms11 : 12/16/2018 9:37 pm : link
especially in a 3-4 and so that position could fill two needs. QB would be #1, however I don’t see this as a good QB class and I don’t think the Giants will either.

I’ll say Edge Rusher, RT, Free Safety in order of top 3

Then after that we need Center, ILB, DT, Guard, and CB
It all depends who is there and worthy of that  
DonnieD89 : 12/16/2018 9:39 pm : link
1st round pick. I have a feeling the 1st round pick is going to be either Edge or RT. If Herbert is there, then he is the pick, but I think he's gone before the Giants pick. Haskins could be a darkhorse. I'm curious to see how he does in the Rose Bowl. Would not mind Greg Little at RT. We really need to fix the trenches on both sides, as a top priority.
There is a clear delineation  
B in ALB : 12/16/2018 9:39 pm : link
between people who want to draft for need and draft for BPA. It's an interesting issue facing this team.
RE: It all depends who is there and worthy of that  
Diver_Down : 12/16/2018 9:42 pm : link
In comment 14222274 DonnieD89 said:
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1st round pick. I have a feeling the 1st round pick is going to be either Edge or RT. If Herbert is there, then he is the pick, but I think he's gone before the Giants pick. Haskins could be a darkhorse. I'm curious to see how he does in the Rose Bowl. Would not mind Greg Little at RT. We really need to fix the trenches on both sides, as a top priority.


There will be plenty of time to discuss different players. But one thing is certain. Greg Little in the Top 10? No. Dude has sugar tits and sloppy technique.
Dep  
Rjanyg : 12/16/2018 9:47 pm : link
I agree with the positions of Edge, RT and FS. If I had to state my specific target assuming we can't get Herbert, I would love Josh Allen from Kentucky. Right now we are picking 8th and that seems like a possibility.
.  
Danny Kanell : 12/16/2018 9:49 pm : link
QB
OT
DE
Hmm  
Sammo85 : 12/16/2018 9:49 pm : link
In terms of needs list:

QB
OT
Edge Rusher/DL (x2)
FS
ILB
C/G
WR

In terms of what’s in the draft this year, I think shopping on OL and infusing the defense with athletic youth and some speed makes lots of sense.

QB might have to wait to 2020.
Mine  
WillVAB : 12/16/2018 9:49 pm : link
ER — the pass rush is non-existent

RT — the OL has been better but still needs help as evidenced today

LB — this is sort of a corollary to ER, but if they’re committed to the 3-4 they need a rush and they need LBs who can make plays. Reese JAGs like BJ Goodson aren’t cutting it. They need a legitimate LB who can stuff the run and blitz.

C — improve the OL and unleash the full potential of Barkley. Do that and unleash the full potential of Beckham. It all goes hand in hand.
..  
Sean : 12/16/2018 9:51 pm : link
QB
RT
DE
Edge  
Gmanfandan : 12/16/2018 9:53 pm : link
DT - did no one watch the game today?
Offensive Line

We were man-handled on both sides of the ball today by a Meh football team.

Need to get bigger and tougher up front Offensively and Defensively



RE: Edge  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 12/16/2018 9:58 pm : link
In comment 14222299 Gmanfandan said:
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DT - did no one watch the game today?
Offensive Line

We were man-handled on both sides of the ball today by a Meh football team.

Need to get bigger and tougher up front Offensively and Defensively




We don’t play Henry every week and we have a bunch of young players getting their feet wet right now.
B in Alb  
Marty866b : 12/16/2018 9:58 pm : link
My reaction to this poll wasn't to insinuate that we should pick a quarterback. I just don't see how a quarterback isn't in our top 3 needs. I firmly believe that we are going to pick the best edge rusher available. Out side of blitzing, we have no one who can get to the passer.
If they don’t go QB this draft  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 12/16/2018 10:00 pm : link
I’m ok with it. I think the 2020 crop is going to be lights out with Tua and Fromm at the top of the list.

If we went after the BPA Tackle or DE that’s what I want.
Pass rusher first  
uconngiant : 12/16/2018 10:02 pm : link
I like a RT but getting one in free agent would be preferable.
Free Safety
another Corner
Linebacker
Wide Receiver
RE: B in Alb  
B in ALB : 12/16/2018 10:03 pm : link
In comment 14222305 Marty866b said:
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My reaction to this poll wasn't to insinuate that we should pick a quarterback. I just don't see how a quarterback isn't in our top 3 needs. I firmly believe that we are going to pick the best edge rusher available. Out side of blitzing, we have no one who can get to the passer.


I understand. But you have to calculate decisions within the context of who will be available whether rookie or vet, imo.
RE: B in Alb  
dep026 : 12/16/2018 10:06 pm : link
In comment 14222305 Marty866b said:
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My reaction to this poll wasn't to insinuate that we should pick a quarterback. I just don't see how a quarterback isn't in our top 3 needs. I firmly believe that we are going to pick the best edge rusher available. Out side of blitzing, we have no one who can get to the passer.


I am not enamored with the QBs in the draft. And if you arent picking one in the first round.... why bother in the 2nd or 3rd? I rather get players of need that can impact than projects.
I don't use the term edge rusher in this D  
idiotsavant : 12/16/2018 10:11 pm : link
Because the player also will be rushing interior at times and defending run at times. I will just call it OLB (4/3 type DE?) for brevity. If you want skinny fast we have that already in Carter.

Round 1 if the quality is there.

Followed by center, free safety, another lb, another safety and another ol player. Maybe corner maybe TE
have to pick  
JerrysKids : 12/16/2018 10:14 pm : link
O-Tackle
DE
Linebackers
Tight Ends
Franchise QB
RE: RE: B in Alb  
B in ALB : 12/16/2018 10:16 pm : link
In comment 14222318 dep026 said:
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In comment 14222305 Marty866b said:


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My reaction to this poll wasn't to insinuate that we should pick a quarterback. I just don't see how a quarterback isn't in our top 3 needs. I firmly believe that we are going to pick the best edge rusher available. Out side of blitzing, we have no one who can get to the passer.



I am not enamored with the QBs in the draft. And if you arent picking one in the first round.... why bother in the 2nd or 3rd? I rather get players of need that can impact than projects.


This team will be mired in qb hell if they don't have some luck break their way in terms of available options, draft and the Eli decision post 2019. It's a really sketchy position to be in.
...  
Jay on the Island : 12/16/2018 10:18 pm : link
QB
Pass rusher
FS
Yeah  
dep026 : 12/16/2018 10:20 pm : link
I dont want a Lauletta or Webb type pick.
Mine:  
Anakim : 12/16/2018 10:22 pm : link
1) Best Player Available
2) Best Player Available
3) Best Player Available
B  
Bill2 : 12/16/2018 10:24 pm : link
That's the way I see it. in that hell that's not bad enough for a top pick and therefore without a good enough QB to have a successful 10 year cycle
Agree w gmanfan  
idiotsavant : 12/16/2018 10:24 pm : link
DT is also a consideration. Even in this D where the nose isnt used in the typical manner, it's NFC E, one needs the beef.
RE: Agree w gmanfan  
dep026 : 12/16/2018 10:24 pm : link
In comment 14222352 idiotsavant said:
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DT is also a consideration. Even in this D where the nose isnt used in the typical manner, it's NFC E, one needs the beef.


We drafted Hill and Tomlinson in the last two drafts. You cant put all your top resources in one spot.
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