Responded to Shurmur not mentioning Eli by name in post game press conference in regards to what was wrong with the offense yesterday. Said the coach is walking around the real issue of what's wrong with the team because his predecessor didn't fare too well when he tried to address it.
No worries, they will need a new shtick and everyone else will no longer have to be bothered by Eli. Two more games and he will be gone.
Honestly, in some ways it will be a relief. Will he retire? I hope he gets a shot somewhere else to help keep my interest in the NFL since the Giants are likely to be bad for a long time. Also would like to see some more evidence if he is cooked or not. Personally, I lean can still get it done but it is a hard sell when all you do is lose.
Usual crappy post
It seems nobody, not the fans nor the organization, have the guts the face reality and see this for what it is. We keep overrating where we are and what needs to be done. Scared of the truth that’s right there in front of us. More excuses than wins has become the norm.
Do people watch other games whatsoever? lol
Not surprising.
the question was "Should Eli QB the Giants in 2019"
Simms was asked to answer and he said absolutely. There isn't a better on-roster option, no better free agent additions and the draft circumstances don't show a viable option. In fact Phil went on, he could see 2020 Eli being the best choice for QB.
Boomer vehemently disagreed and said he'd cut Eli, draft a rookie QB, and sign a "mid-level free agent" because of the money they're paying Eli.
Simms suggested a restructure.
not sue if it was me, but seemed like legit vitriol between the two, at least on this topic.
Eli ended up with some awfull plays but it was a total shit show by the offense. The only reasin we ran for positive yardage is cause Saquon made multiple guys miss on 2-3 yard runs.
Not surprising.
BBI has become what the standard NFL fan has become. Very little knowledge of the game, listen to talking heads who dont watch the game (shit.... Stephen A. Smith knows more about the SD-KC match up than our own fans know about the game.)
When a loss occurs, everyone blames one person. Because its the easy thing to do. Did Eli play well yesterday? Of course not. He didnt hold the team back though because it could easily be argued that Shepard was worse. Wheeler was god awful. Pulley was pathetic. The DL was dominated. STs were awful...
Are you seeing the pattern Eli blamers?????/
The whole team sucked balls yesterday. We are diluted on talent.
Simms looked pissed didn't he?
Was I reading too much into that?
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back to ripping Eli just like BBI is back to ripping him.
Not surprising.
BBI has become what the standard NFL fan has become. Very little knowledge of the game, listen to talking heads who dont watch the game (shit.... Stephen A. Smith knows more about the SD-KC match up than our own fans know about the game.)
When a loss occurs, everyone blames one person. Because its the easy thing to do. Did Eli play well yesterday? Of course not. He didnt hold the team back though because it could easily be argued that Shepard was worse. Wheeler was god awful. Pulley was pathetic. The DL was dominated. STs were awful...
Are you seeing the pattern Eli blamers?????/
The whole team sucked balls yesterday. We are diluted on talent.
Or, we simply had a shitty game
But the talent level on this team, especialyl up front and in the trenches is not a playoff caliber level like. Thats a huge problem.
the question was "Should Eli QB the Giants in 2019"
Simms was asked to answer and he said absolutely. There isn't a better on-roster option, no better free agent additions and the draft circumstances don't show a viable option. In fact Phil went on, he could see 2020 Eli being the best choice for QB.
Boomer vehemently disagreed and said he'd cut Eli, draft a rookie QB, and sign a "mid-level free agent" because of the money they're paying Eli.
Simms suggested a restructure.
not sue if it was me, but seemed like legit vitriol between the two, at least on this topic.
Boomer is jealous of Eli. It's as simple as that.
That being said, I'm not even sure a restructure is necessary. Eli is making about what a middle of the road QB makes these days. And yeah, barring things really getting bad, I think Eli is obviously the starter next year and has a good shot at being the starter at least entering 2020.
Eli did not play well yesterday at all, no way getting around it. But this team has much bigger problems than Eli's inconsistency.
I'd love to replace Eli with a young franchise QB but we screwed the pooch on that one and it doesn't look like one will be available anytime soon.
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back to ripping Eli just like BBI is back to ripping him.
Not surprising.
BBI has become what the standard NFL fan has become. Very little knowledge of the game, listen to talking heads who dont watch the game (shit.... Stephen A. Smith knows more about the SD-KC match up than our own fans know about the game.)
When a loss occurs, everyone blames one person. Because its the easy thing to do. Did Eli play well yesterday? Of course not. He didnt hold the team back though because it could easily be argued that Shepard was worse. Wheeler was god awful. Pulley was pathetic. The DL was dominated. STs were awful...
Are you seeing the pattern Eli blamers?????/
The whole team sucked balls yesterday. We are diluted on talent.
When you're getting soundly whupped across the board in both trenches, nothing is gonna work.
Henry was an absolute monster. He was helped by the Titans OL pushing the Giants front seven around like shopping carts. However, he looked like Brandon Jacobs with the ability to cut.
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shows or get caught up in the bullshit, and I don't know if it was staged or what but Boomer and Simms seemed to be legit going it at about Eli.
the question was "Should Eli QB the Giants in 2019"
Simms was asked to answer and he said absolutely. There isn't a better on-roster option, no better free agent additions and the draft circumstances don't show a viable option. In fact Phil went on, he could see 2020 Eli being the best choice for QB.
Boomer vehemently disagreed and said he'd cut Eli, draft a rookie QB, and sign a "mid-level free agent" because of the money they're paying Eli.
Simms suggested a restructure.
not sue if it was me, but seemed like legit vitriol between the two, at least on this topic.
Boomer is jealous of Eli. It's as simple as that.
That being said, I'm not even sure a restructure is necessary. Eli is making about what a middle of the road QB makes these days. And yeah, barring things really getting bad, I think Eli is obviously the starter next year and has a good shot at being the starter at least entering 2020.
Eli did not play well yesterday at all, no way getting around it. But this team has much bigger problems than Eli's inconsistency.
I'd love to replace Eli with a young franchise QB but we screwed the pooch on that one and it doesn't look like one will be available anytime soon.
Eli's cap hit for 2019 is $23M which is 10th in the league and his final year under contract. Simms said restructure, but you can't restructure a contract with only one year on it, so the Giants would need to extend Eli to 2020 (in Simms plan) and ideally at a low salary, and restructure 2019 so maybe it's a $15M cap hit in 2019 and 2020).
It came down to the fact that Henry and the OL outplayed us and they were able to stop Barkley. Basically they won the trenches, yet people will show up gleefully on Monday to point out that Eli is done and the team would be fine if he just were gone.
BBI has become what the standard NFL fan has become. Very little knowledge of the game, listen to talking heads who dont watch the game (shit.... Stephen A. Smith knows more about the SD-KC match up than our own fans know about the game.)
When a loss occurs, everyone blames one person. Because its the easy thing to do. Did Eli play well yesterday? Of course not. He didnt hold the team back though because it could easily be argued that Shepard was worse. Wheeler was god awful. Pulley was pathetic. The DL was dominated. STs were awful...
Are you seeing the pattern Eli blamers?????/
The whole team sucked balls yesterday. We are diluted on talent.
I'm not an "Eli-blamer", but Eli flat out sucked yesterday. The fact that others did too doesn't change that fact. A good NFL QB can pick his team up when they are playing poorly. Eli can't do that any longer.
Eli is a glorified game manager at this point in his career, which is hardly surprising given his age, and the beatings he's taken behind subpar offensive lines. But he is shell shocked, is painfully slow, and has no mobility. His arm strength also looks like it's declining, and there are too many instances where he doesn't see the whole field. He's still capable of terrific throws and games, but is reaching the end.
As for 2019, I wanted him gone at 1-7, but now agree that he's likely the least bad option for 2019. But we need to draft his successor in 2019 or 2020.
It's madness.
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BBI has become what the standard NFL fan has become. Very little knowledge of the game, listen to talking heads who dont watch the game (shit.... Stephen A. Smith knows more about the SD-KC match up than our own fans know about the game.)
When a loss occurs, everyone blames one person. Because its the easy thing to do. Did Eli play well yesterday? Of course not. He didnt hold the team back though because it could easily be argued that Shepard was worse. Wheeler was god awful. Pulley was pathetic. The DL was dominated. STs were awful...
Are you seeing the pattern Eli blamers?????/
The whole team sucked balls yesterday. We are diluted on talent.
I'm not an "Eli-blamer", but Eli flat out sucked yesterday. The fact that others did too doesn't change that fact. A good NFL QB can pick his team up when they are playing poorly. Eli can't do that any longer.
No question Eli isn’t the guy from 2011, but seriously look around the league and see how lousy other solid QBs did in DRY WEATHER
I actually thought that too often Jacobs played small. Like he went down too easily too often. Yes, there are some of those highlight clips where he runs a guy over... but also just as many where he did not assert himself.
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shows or get caught up in the bullshit, and I don't know if it was staged or what but Boomer and Simms seemed to be legit going it at about Eli.
the question was "Should Eli QB the Giants in 2019"
Simms was asked to answer and he said absolutely. There isn't a better on-roster option, no better free agent additions and the draft circumstances don't show a viable option. In fact Phil went on, he could see 2020 Eli being the best choice for QB.
Boomer vehemently disagreed and said he'd cut Eli, draft a rookie QB, and sign a "mid-level free agent" because of the money they're paying Eli.
Simms suggested a restructure.
not sue if it was me, but seemed like legit vitriol between the two, at least on this topic.
Boomer is jealous of Eli. It's as simple as that.
That being said, I'm not even sure a restructure is necessary. Eli is making about what a middle of the road QB makes these days. And yeah, barring things really getting bad, I think Eli is obviously the starter next year and has a good shot at being the starter at least entering 2020.
Eli did not play well yesterday at all, no way getting around it. But this team has much bigger problems than Eli's inconsistency.
I'd love to replace Eli with a young franchise QB but we screwed the pooch on that one and it doesn't look like one will be available anytime soon. [/quote
Totally agree on Boomer being jealous of Eli. It kills him that Eli has two rings and he got there once and came up small. Bart Scott is another one who takes every opportunity to rip Eli out of jealousy. Two has beens who never won the big one hosting crappy shows with failing ratings trying to get ratings and soothe their hurt egos by blasting Eli.
It's madness.
12/20, 80 yards, 0 TD's, 0 INT's.
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shows or get caught up in the bullshit, and I don't know if it was staged or what but Boomer and Simms seemed to be legit going it at about Eli.
the question was "Should Eli QB the Giants in 2019"
Simms was asked to answer and he said absolutely. There isn't a better on-roster option, no better free agent additions and the draft circumstances don't show a viable option. In fact Phil went on, he could see 2020 Eli being the best choice for QB.
Boomer vehemently disagreed and said he'd cut Eli, draft a rookie QB, and sign a "mid-level free agent" because of the money they're paying Eli.
Simms suggested a restructure.
not sue if it was me, but seemed like legit vitriol between the two, at least on this topic.
Boomer is jealous of Eli. It's as simple as that.
That being said, I'm not even sure a restructure is necessary. Eli is making about what a middle of the road QB makes these days. And yeah, barring things really getting bad, I think Eli is obviously the starter next year and has a good shot at being the starter at least entering 2020.
Eli did not play well yesterday at all, no way getting around it. But this team has much bigger problems than Eli's inconsistency.
I'd love to replace Eli with a young franchise QB but we screwed the pooch on that one and it doesn't look like one will be available anytime soon.
2020
2021
Big years for QB’s in the draft. Be prepared to have to trade up.
I almost want Eli to go so when the team is still garbage I can see who the blame goes to. Likely it will still be Eli even if he is sitting in an armchair on Sundays or in another uniform
They dominated line play on both sides of the ball. Eli stepped up when he needed to but defenders were in his face all game long.
There's no need to get all jacked up about it...It's not as if the Giants could have won the game yesterday, barring Tennessee not showing up.
But Eli was dreadful yesterday. Absolutely dreadful.
It reminded me of the Gilbride Redskins game in 07 when it was pouring and we threw the ball all over the place against a tough D. We were rolling at that point, hit a rainy day, and nothing went right.
I don’t remember who posted this comment about Eli a while back, but I think it s true.
Paraphrasing because I don’t remember:
Older quarterbacks, good ones like Eli, will still be able to remind you of their greatness throughput the course of a season. I t s not like they totally forget how to play. They do enough to allow you to believe if we can jus get better around him.
But their ability on a consistent basis is just not there anymore. ......
Me, I see flashes of the old Eli when things are clicking. But I also see how overwhelmed he sometimes is by the athleticism around him as the pocket collapses
Eli has never been good at extending plays, but he almos always hung in there right up to getting hit making big plays. I don’t see this anymore, I see the opposite
I m am not an Eli hater, nor a fanboy. I am a Giants fan first and want what s best for the team.
I don’t know what that means for the quarterback position going forward but we ll see
This is about as childish a post as possible. Kudos.
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BBI has become what the standard NFL fan has become. Very little knowledge of the game, listen to talking heads who dont watch the game (shit.... Stephen A. Smith knows more about the SD-KC match up than our own fans know about the game.)
When a loss occurs, everyone blames one person. Because its the easy thing to do. Did Eli play well yesterday? Of course not. He didnt hold the team back though because it could easily be argued that Shepard was worse. Wheeler was god awful. Pulley was pathetic. The DL was dominated. STs were awful...
Are you seeing the pattern Eli blamers?????/
The whole team sucked balls yesterday. We are diluted on talent.
I'm not an "Eli-blamer", but Eli flat out sucked yesterday. The fact that others did too doesn't change that fact. A good NFL QB can pick his team up when they are playing poorly. Eli can't do that any longer.
This is the epitome of the absurdity of some posters on this board and truly shows the lack of knowledge. Is Eli supposed to block for the running game? Catch the ball for the wide receivers and tight ends? How about tackling the opposing team's running back?
The running game was not doing anything thanks to the ineffectiveness of the offensive line. Players were dropping the ball in their hands. The titans were dominating us on both sides of the ball in the trenches, but Eli is supposed to pick the team up? Absolutely ridiculous
Smh
If that isn't obvious then I don't know what to tell you.
Norman wasn't able to beat the best QB that played in his generation, but Eli beat the best QB in his generation.
Twice. That's what it comes down to guys.
Is Eli at the end of the road, absolutely. Is there a better option, no! It’s not Eli’s fault, the front office is to blame. Sims is correct when he says there is no other option, a restructured contract may be the way to go. Did we have a running game yesterday? Did we have a defense show up yesterday? Did we have an Offensive Libe that played well yesterday? Did we have a QB that could’ve lifted us above those deficiencies? The answer to the last question is no and there wasn’t any QB that could’ve helped us yesterday the way the WHOLE team played!
Flame on!!
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back to ripping Eli just like BBI is back to ripping him.
Not surprising.
BBI has become what the standard NFL fan has become. Very little knowledge of the game, listen to talking heads who dont watch the game (shit.... Stephen A. Smith knows more about the SD-KC match up than our own fans know about the game.)
When a loss occurs, everyone blames one person. Because its the easy thing to do. Did Eli play well yesterday? Of course not. He didnt hold the team back though because it could easily be argued that Shepard was worse. Wheeler was god awful. Pulley was pathetic. The DL was dominated. STs were awful...
Are you seeing the pattern Eli blamers?????/
The whole team sucked balls yesterday. We are diluted on talent.
Any of those other blame-worthy targets pushing 38 years old and occupying $23MM of cap space?
Are you seeing the pattern Eli apologists?????/
It reminded me of the Gilbride Redskins game in 07 when it was pouring and we threw the ball all over the place against a tough D. We were rolling at that point, hit a rainy day, and nothing went right.
You're absolutely correct here. But at the same time, in a 7-0 (one score) game, Eli's two turnovers were just putrid. We were fortunate to escape the first but the second did us in. The team sucked. And Eli is a huge part of the team. His haters want to blame everything on him; his strongest advocates never want to blame him for anything.
The OL sucked yesterday. The receivers sucked. But the QB also sucked.
That's brutally true. It is the narrow-minded posts/threads that try to blame a single entity after a loss to tie it in a neat little bow, as if we just improve or eliminate that single cause, then the team is magically better.
And we've seen the song and dance before where that entity is almost always Eli.
Like I said earlier, we even have a thread talking about how good Mariota played and how we fared after finally facing a real starting QB.
Any of those other blame-worthy targets pushing 38 years old and occupying $23MM of cap space?
Are you seeing the pattern Eli apologists?????/
I see a pattern. One you have been riding since BBWC.
Get rid of the QB and all will be well!!!!
Eli's cap hit has NOTHING to do with the diluted talent on this team. If you depend on free agency to win games - you will never win.
I remember when the Skins won the offseason with all their Free agents. Meant shit regular season.