I'm admittedly ignoring the potential of Eli returning and going on the premise that Eli retires, is unilaterally released, traded or released but more of a mutual parting of ways so he can pursue other opportunities i.e. Jaguars.
That being said, what are your top 3 options among the following:
Let's say the following are FAs:
Teddy Bridgewater
Case Keenum
Joe Flacco
Trade targets:
Kyle Sloter for a 6th rounder
Jacoby Brissett for a 3rd rounder
Top 10 draft pick:
Justin Herbert
Drew Lock
Dwayne Haskins
Which are appealing? Unappealing? Top 3 choices?
Mine would be:
1 Brissett (sat behind Brady and Luck; many top football people speak highly of him)
2 Herbert
3 Sloter
The thread is about other QB options ("going on the premise that Eli is NOT the QB in '19"). Perhaps that is just me being hopeful, but let's roll w that concept for the sake of the thread.
Sloter is physically impressive (big, athletic, good arm)...not exactly what we are used to around here. Also, reportedly, Shurmur likes him.
The most likely outcome from your list is Sloter. There were rumors the Giants were interested in trading for him on draft day. Of course, the question is why they didn't, since it would only have taken a low round pick.
After Sloter, I think Lock is the next most likely option. Herbert will be gone, assuming he comes out.
If they can secure Haskins/Jones/Lock/Finley, I'd be for it.
Draft BPA in rd 1, they need help all over.
Look at what Luck is doing with basically the same roster vs. what Brissett did.
I'd much rather have a draft pick or keep Eli than go with Brissett.
and by the way - let's just remind pep taht you said Brissett was a possible HoF talent and would be a starter in the league for many years based on a half of play. A half in a game the colts went on to lose, helped tremendously by a Brisett INT.
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Look at what Luck is doing with basically the same roster vs. what Brissett did.
I'd much rather have a draft pick or keep Eli than go with Brissett.
and by the way - let's just remind pep taht you said Brissett was a possible HoF talent and would be a starter in the league for many years based on a half of play. A half in a game the colts went on to lose, helped tremendously by a Brisett INT.
HOF talent? No, I never said that. My only take on him is limited. Good college career. Big arm, great size, adequate athlete, trained behind the best of the best and what Parcells says about him. Either way, the premise is to exit from the Eli situation.
they will prob be looking at drafting a CB or OT in rd 1, with my preference being OT. they can draft at least 1 interior offensive lineman in the mid-rounds and solidify the line. add defensive help and a WR with the rest of the picks
They need to play Lauleta the rest of the year and let him show what he can, or more likely can’t do ...
Looking ahead to next year depends on who PS and DG think can be developed ... That’s why PS was hired and he should get his chance to pick his guy. He knows a few of the names mentioned above and should have his opinions ... the key is moving on from Eli ... now.
I didn't realize people started drinking so early on Monday mornings.
they will prob be looking at drafting a CB or OT in rd 1, with my preference being OT. they can draft at least 1 interior offensive lineman in the mid-rounds and solidify the line. add defensive help and a WR with the rest of the picks
I don't get how you can make that opening statement and still call yourself a giants fan. While I am not an Eli apologist and can see the end is near I just don't get that.
QB For Life.
Contract Notes
Nick Mullens signed a two year contract with the 49ers on September 26, 2018. Mullens had been on the 49ers practice squad.
Per Overthecap.com
Under contract for minimum wage next year and a restricted free agent in 2020.
Niners are going to want a significant trade haul for him
Look at what Luck is doing with basically the same roster vs. what Brissett did.
I'd much rather have a draft pick or keep Eli than go with Brissett.
and by the way - let's just remind pep taht you said Brissett was a possible HoF talent and would be a starter in the league for many years based on a half of play. A half in a game the colts went on to lose, helped tremendously by a Brisett INT.
FMIC. I was being facetious. Tired of arguing with you
Hope you and family have a wonderful holiday
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How the hell can anyone be anti-Eli? What kind of fan is that, hating the guy who led us to two Super Bowls. I can see being worried about the post-Eli era, but bragging about being anti-Eli is pathetic.
While I understand the concept and would be all for it given the right scenario, I'm just not sure what the urgency is to do it this coming year for a few reasons. We are much more than a QB away, and the QB we need is almost certainly not on the roster. None of the incoming QBs really seems, to my unprofessional evaluation, to be potential franchise guys. Any potential free agent QBs who might provide an upgrade are going to cost more than Eli will next year to begin with, plus we would still have to deal with the dead money from cutting or trading Eli so we'd be limiting the potential to sign FAs who might contribute to the rebuild. Trading draft picks for QBs who probably also won't be our future QB also limits our ability to build through the draft, and anyone who is likely to have franchise potential is going to be prohibitively costly from that aspect as well.
2019 just doesn't make sense to me to move on unless the scouts and Gettlemen feel radically different about the incoming QB class than most seem to. Sure, you can say we are giving up on the season, but I think it makes the most sense in terms of long-term team building. Preserve draft picks, preserve cap space, draft a QB in what looks to be a very strong QB class in 2020. We're not winning much in 2019 anyway, so why bother switching from Eli to a different mediocre QB as a placeholder for whoever we draft in 2020/2021 who will cost more in terms of draft picks and/or cap space when we've already got a placeholder on the roster? Now, if you want to just play Lauletta to Tank for Tua....that might be intriguing
How the hell can anyone be anti-Eli? What kind of fan is that, hating the guy who led us to two Super Bowls. I can see being worried about the post-Eli era, but bragging about being anti-Eli is pathetic.
We could have done that, but we didn't.
Sloter is physically impressive (big, athletic, good arm)...not exactly what we are used to around here. Also, reportedly, Shurmur likes him.
How the hell can anyone be anti-Eli? What kind of fan is that, hating the guy who led us to two Super Bowls. I can see being worried about the post-Eli era, but bragging about being anti-Eli is pathetic.
I think "anti-Eli" is not a great way to phrase it. I am against the idea of paying 20mm+ for a guy that is at best mediocre now, has no future etc. The fact that Eli is a boy scout or played a key role in winning SB many years ago doesn't change that.
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Can someone please explain to me the obsession? I know Colin or Te mentioned him once or twice and then it took a life of its own.
Sloter is physically impressive (big, athletic, good arm)...not exactly what we are used to around here. Also, reportedly, Shurmur likes him.
"big, athletic, good arm"
There are quite a few QBs (yes, backups) who fit that description. And it's purely speculative that Shurmur "likes" him. He may like him as a backup. I doubt he sees him as a franchise QB.
I think more likely move is us trading back into the late 1st to take a unfinshed high ceiling athlete to polish while Eli is the starter next year.
Eli being the QB in 2020 is the dumbest thing this franchise could do.
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Eli isn't what he once was, but he's still better than most.
How the hell can anyone be anti-Eli? What kind of fan is that, hating the guy who led us to two Super Bowls. I can see being worried about the post-Eli era, but bragging about being anti-Eli is pathetic.
I think "anti-Eli" is not a great way to phrase it. I am against the idea of paying 20mm+ for a guy that is at best mediocre now, has no future etc. The fact that Eli is a boy scout or played a key role in winning SB many years ago doesn't change that.
Exactly, it’s time to move on, players don’t last forever
We could have done that, but we didn't.
Yeah, we may have had as good a draft as everyone says we had but holy shit, the Colts' draft looks phenomenal.
either extend him on a 2yr deal at a much reduce rate or you cut him, and frankly im fine with bringing in a tyrod taylor as its a stop gap that actually allows us to see the offense run from a different vantage point. Which is with a mobile QB which might help us evaluate the OL and play-calling better.
either of those i am fine with. but i don't see how another year at current rate isnt just a disaster all around and a waste of time/money
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The Colts rebuilt the offensive line into one of the best in the league.
We could have done that, but we didn't.
Yeah, we may have had as good a draft as everyone says we had but holy shit, the Colts' draft looks phenomenal.
mark Glwoinski has come out of nowhere to be a great player from them. he had a great 11th grade Civics teacher though.
Then why is he on the roster?
Of the franchise. Winning is not in our future based on the colossal fuckup with Manning contract and handling.
Right about this time next year we will likely revisit the obvious if
NO to drafting a QB this year. There isn't anyone who is likely to be a real difference maker.
Eli is by far the best option for 2019. Use the draft picks to fortify the OL and the defense, and hopefully build draft capital for 2020.
Draft the next GIANTS QB in 2020.