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Well, at least we got rid of these bums...

That’s Gold, Jerry : 12/17/2018 2:34 pm
Weston Richburg...the 32nd rated C in the NFL by PFF (not going to argue the merits of PFF)including an incredible 27 sacks allowed.

Now, ole Justin Pugh, got hurt again and on IR. But before that, he was the 53rd rated guard in the NFL.

Yeah, we made mistakes in keeping Flowers and trying Omameh, even Solder is only ranked no. 17 but thank God we got rid of those bums.
JPP, how many sacks this year?  
SHO'NUFF : 12/17/2018 2:36 pm : link
Snacks, Lions run D ranked where now?
Apple, had himself a good game last week.
RE: JPP, how many sacks this year?  
dep026 : 12/17/2018 2:38 pm : link
In comment 14223581 SHO'NUFF said:
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Snacks, Lions run D ranked where now?
Apple, had himself a good game last week.


Eli Apple sucks
JPP is part of the worst defense in the NFL
Snacks sure has made Detroit into a iwnner, right?
That's one of the things that I don't understand about....  
Britt in VA : 12/17/2018 2:39 pm : link
the Gettleman criticism. He cleans house, and also knows when to cut bait.

Flowers moved to right tackle, benched then cut.

Signed Omameh, he didn't perform, he's cut.

He actively benches or cuts anybody that isn't performing and tries to replace them (Insert Eli comment here but that's a little bit different of a story).
RE: JPP, how many sacks this year?  
Chris in Philly : 12/17/2018 2:39 pm : link
In comment 14223581 SHO'NUFF said:
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Snacks, Lions run D ranked where now?
Apple, had himself a good game last week.


Solder  
TommyWiseau : 12/17/2018 2:42 pm : link
Has been very solid outside of the first few games. Him and Hernandez should anchor the left side of the line for the next 4 years. Pugh and Richburg are trash, we all knew it. Pugh is always hurt and Richburg has been getting worse year in and year out.

Hopefully with 9 or 10 picks this year, Gettleman can hit on some mid to late round Olineman like he did in Carolina with Trai Turner, Norwell, Taylor Moton and Daryl Williams
RE: That's one of the things that I don't understand about....  
family progtitioner : 12/17/2018 2:43 pm : link
In comment 14223587 Britt in VA said:
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the Gettleman criticism. He cleans house, and also knows when to cut bait.

Flowers moved to right tackle, benched then cut.

Signed Omameh, he didn't perform, he's cut.

He actively benches or cuts anybody that isn't performing and tries to replace them (Insert Eli comment here but that's a little bit different of a story).


This is an attribute I like about the new regime. No more scholarships.
To answer your questions, Detroit's run D  
That’s Gold, Jerry : 12/17/2018 2:44 pm : link
is 17th. JPP has 11.5 sacks (you really think he'd have that number here)plus Tampa still not going to the playoffs. As for Apple, I've seen him play with the Saints...not good. He played the odd good game for us too but not consistently.
Pretty sure  
mrvax : 12/17/2018 2:45 pm : link
there were issues with Snacks and Apple. Otherwise, I think they would still be here.

Pugh only played 7 games this year. Crystal ball?
There's absolutely no way....  
Ryan : 12/17/2018 2:58 pm : link
..Richburg has allowed 27 sacks.
If only we would have kept JPP  
ZogZerg : 12/17/2018 3:02 pm : link
We'd be in cap hell and our D would still suck.
Darn that DG.

An argument for Apple? LOL
the only guy I wonder about  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 12/17/2018 3:13 pm : link
is getting rid of Snacks
RE: To answer your questions, Detroit's run D  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/17/2018 3:15 pm : link
In comment 14223595 That’s Gold, Jerry said:
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plus Tampa still not going to the playoffs.


This isn't a legitimate point. It's just something to say to try to prop up a bad point.
RE: RE: JPP, how many sacks this year?  
twostepgiants : 12/17/2018 3:44 pm : link
You hold JPP & Snacks accountable for their unit but not the QB for the offense?


Interesting logic.

In comment 14223584 dep026 said:
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In comment 14223581 SHO'NUFF said:


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Snacks, Lions run D ranked where now?
Apple, had himself a good game last week.



Eli Apple sucks
JPP is part of the worst defense in the NFL
Snacks sure has made Detroit into a iwnner, right?
RE: That's one of the things that I don't understand about....  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 12/17/2018 4:39 pm : link
In comment 14223587 Britt in VA said:
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the Gettleman criticism. He cleans house, and also knows when to cut bait.

Flowers moved to right tackle, benched then cut.

Signed Omameh, he didn't perform, he's cut.

He actively benches or cuts anybody that isn't performing and tries to replace them (Insert Eli comment here but that's a little bit different of a story).

Didn't bring back Stewart from IR.

There's a lot of dumb espn watching trolls on this forum, they root for Philly to win the SB ffs.
RE: the only guy I wonder about  
JohnnyFlowers : 12/17/2018 5:37 pm : link
In comment 14223641 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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is getting rid of Snacks


Snacks and Apple were traded mostly because of their attitudes..IMO. They are not leaders and they don't like to follow the leader so bye bye.
RE: If only we would have kept JPP  
djstat : 12/17/2018 6:30 pm : link
In comment 14223614 ZogZerg said:
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We'd be in cap hell and our D would still suck.
Darn that DG.

An argument for Apple? LOL
BEST POST OF THE YEAR
RE: JPP, how many sacks this year?  
speedywheels : 12/17/2018 6:47 pm : link
In comment 14223581 SHO'NUFF said:
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Apple, had himself a good game last week.


And he's been bad in 6 other games, what the hell is your point?

Oh, that's right - most of your posts don't have one...
The good news is that Solder has played much better lately  
Jay on the Island : 12/17/2018 7:45 pm : link
Not up to his contract but obviously but an obvious improvement. The line has started to come together and that is with Pulley and Wheeler starting. Both players, especially Pulley, are not starting caliber players. If the Giants improve both positions then the line should improve significantly.
A center allowing 27 sacks in 14 games??  
Jimmy Googs : 12/17/2018 7:47 pm : link
i don't think so...
I am appalled  
Leg of Theismann : 12/17/2018 7:54 pm : link
At how many people are knocking JPP and Snacks by saying that the Bucs and Lions are not going to the playoffs. Really? 1 guy out of 22 starters is supposed to take a bad team and turn them into a good team, and if he doesn't then that must mean he sucks? Boy then that means Saquon Barkley must really suck, because the team he plays on is 5-9! This is intellectually dishonest and makes the posters spouting this drivel look stupid. JPP has had a great year and Snacks is undoubtedly still an elite run-stopper in this league, just admit that and move on. Maybe they weren't a perfect fit for Bettcher's system or maybe we had decent enough talent behind them making less $ to adequately fill in, that's why we shipped them out, but to say that they're a couple of losers and shitty players because the teams they play on are losing doesn't make any sense. I think everyone should also be open to the fact that DG has probably made some good moves and some bad moves, that's just how it goes, we just hope the good outweighs the bad when all is said and done. I'm tired of seeing these all or nothing posters who seem to think they have to defend every single little thing DG does or find something wrong with every single thing he does.
Ride the Eli train!  
giantsFC : 12/17/2018 9:07 pm : link
If it’s just the line and terrible specially players that were assembled around him the last 5 years then they can make playoffs next year

If he sucks balls, which is a high probability, then team can get a high draft pick in a year w actual good qb talent in draft.
RE: RE: That's one of the things that I don't understand about....  
SHO'NUFF : 12/17/2018 9:08 pm : link
In comment 14223592 family progtitioner said:
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In comment 14223587 Britt in VA said:


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the Gettleman criticism. He cleans house, and also knows when to cut bait.

Flowers moved to right tackle, benched then cut.

Signed Omameh, he didn't perform, he's cut.

He actively benches or cuts anybody that isn't performing and tries to replace them (Insert Eli comment here but that's a little bit different of a story).



This is an attribute I like about the new regime. No more scholarships.


Then explain Curtis Riley and OV.
Jerrry Reese  
Paulie Walnuts : 12/17/2018 9:35 pm : link
The hits keep coming
Richburg  
Rong5611 : 12/17/2018 9:58 pm : link
3 sacks allowed so far.
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RE: RE: RE: That's one of the things that I don't understand about....  
WillVAB : 12/17/2018 11:32 pm : link
In comment 14223976 SHO'NUFF said:
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In comment 14223592 family progtitioner said:


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In comment 14223587 Britt in VA said:


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the Gettleman criticism. He cleans house, and also knows when to cut bait.

Flowers moved to right tackle, benched then cut.

Signed Omameh, he didn't perform, he's cut.

He actively benches or cuts anybody that isn't performing and tries to replace them (Insert Eli comment here but that's a little bit different of a story).



This is an attribute I like about the new regime. No more scholarships.



Then explain Curtis Riley and OV.


Vernon? Why does it make sense to cut him now? He’s a sunk cost at this point. After the season he’s the odds on favorite to be one of the first cuts.
Hasn't Detroit...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 12/17/2018 11:36 pm : link
won only one game since Snacks got there?
Sunk cost?  
SHO'NUFF : 12/18/2018 1:59 am : link
Then why isn't he at least seeing the bench right next to Riley?
RE: Hasn't Detroit...  
SHO'NUFF : 12/18/2018 2:01 am : link
In comment 14224212 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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won only one game since Snacks got there?


Yeah, but their run defense has improved and, coincidentally, ours became nonexistent...hmmm.
RE: I am appalled  
gmenatlarge : 12/18/2018 10:19 am : link
In comment 14223921 Leg of Theismann said:
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At how many people are knocking JPP and Snacks by saying that the Bucs and Lions are not going to the playoffs. Really? 1 guy out of 22 starters is supposed to take a bad team and turn them into a good team, and if he doesn't then that must mean he sucks? Boy then that means Saquon Barkley must really suck, because the team he plays on is 5-9! This is intellectually dishonest and makes the posters spouting this drivel look stupid. JPP has had a great year and Snacks is undoubtedly still an elite run-stopper in this league, just admit that and move on. Maybe they weren't a perfect fit for Bettcher's system or maybe we had decent enough talent behind them making less $ to adequately fill in, that's why we shipped them out, but to say that they're a couple of losers and shitty players because the teams they play on are losing doesn't make any sense. I think everyone should also be open to the fact that DG has probably made some good moves and some bad moves, that's just how it goes, we just hope the good outweighs the bad when all is said and done. I'm tired of seeing these all or nothing posters who seem to think they have to defend every single little thing DG does or find something wrong with every single thing he does.


+1 Yeah, this is some GREAT Defense, they got steamrolled right up the middle in the second half of the Philly game, almost gave away the Bears game to Chase Daniel, Josh Johnston who knows what he would have done if he started the Wash game, Winston in the Tampa game, etc. This is NOT a good defense, so not too sure we can sit here applauding all these moves!
RE: RE: That's one of the things that I don't understand about....  
Gatorade Dunk : 12/18/2018 11:50 am : link
In comment 14223783 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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In comment 14223587 Britt in VA said:


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the Gettleman criticism. He cleans house, and also knows when to cut bait.

Flowers moved to right tackle, benched then cut.

Signed Omameh, he didn't perform, he's cut.

He actively benches or cuts anybody that isn't performing and tries to replace them (Insert Eli comment here but that's a little bit different of a story).


Didn't bring back Stewart from IR.

There's a lot of dumb espn watching trolls on this forum, they root for Philly to win the SB ffs.

Based on what? Besides, according to your registration date, you weren't even here for the Super Bowl - so what's your previous handle, dupe?
27 sacks doesn't sound like a credible number.  
Mike from SI : 12/18/2018 12:01 pm : link
A center allows 2 sacks PER GAME and doesn't eventually get benched?
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