So the Mets invite him to spring training. Still a fast guy. Approaching 40.
What do we know? Seems relatively durable. Good vet presence? Pinch-runner? Spot CF? Can’t be for but a few bucks. Good move?
As long as he’s been around, I know next to nothing about the guy.
How does this move affect any other possible OF moves?
Happy Tuesday, BBI!
The Braves asked last week. The DBacks were not interested.
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should call Arizona about Peralta. Arizona likely doesn't move him but no harm asking.
The Braves asked last week. The DBacks were not interested.
Always worth asking. He's quite a story. Former pitcher converted "on the fly".
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should call Arizona about Peralta. Arizona likely doesn't move him but no harm asking.
The Braves asked last week. The DBacks were not interested.
Always worth asking. He's quite a story. Former pitcher converted "on the fly".
Agreed, he is one of the few OF options left that I find intriguing.
He's exactly what the Mets need.
If I could pull off a JBJ trade without losing Wheeler, Matz, Gimenez, Mauricio, Peterson, Szapucki, Vientos, Nimmo, Conforto, or any other top 10 prospects I'd 100% or players from the roster I'd absolutely do it.
Dom and Plawecki for JBJ. Even throw in TJ Rivera.
Inciarte
Buxton
Broxton
M. Smith
Brinson
Barves?
They have received a lot of calls this offseason for Inciarte, Albies, and Camargo. Albies is not available but they are open to moving Inciarte but it would have to be for a corner OF with some control. They would love to move Acuna to his more natural position in CF but they already have one hole in the OF so trading Inciarte now doesn't make sense unless they get an MLB ready corner OF in return. My dream scenario would be to somehow get Kyle Tucker from the Astros but that is a pipedream.
That said I’m very pleased with how the offseason has gone so far. We’ve plugged 4 pretty large holes. I’m weirdly confident in Brody. He’s going to bring in another OF and another reliever... maybe even a backend starter like Gio.
With the Giants sucking again, I’m already ready to get the season started.
He's exactly what the Mets need.
If I could pull off a JBJ trade without losing Wheeler, Matz, Gimenez, Mauricio, Peterson, Szapucki, Vientos, Nimmo, Conforto, or any other top 10 prospects I'd 100% or players from the roster I'd absolutely do it.
Dom and Plawecki for JBJ. Even throw in TJ Rivera.
I like JBJ, but I think he'd be a bit more expensive than Dom and Plawecki (which is basically crap). He had a 2.8 fWar season last year, and Steamer projects him to be even better next year and worth 3.0 fWar. I believe he is still not a free agent until 2021.
I'd love to add him, but it would probably cost something like Vientos or Szapucki or someone else that would hurt a bit. I think I'd still really consider it.
they're at least in the 30% penalty now.
They are dumping salary.
Rumored to being on the block are Porcello, JBJ, and even Bogearts.
I'd be interested in all 3, but JBJ makes the most sense and should cost the least.
His fWAR prediction is almost all defense, which is not a player I'd pony up big prospects for.
Aaron Gleeman doesn't think the Twins would move Buxton unless blown away. Blown away is subjective and as Shecky noted there is some weirdness between how the Twins have handled him that I don't think we as fans really understand. I don't think they view Cave as an every day guy (the k-rate is absurd) but I think Buxton's worst case is still likely Juan Lagares with more speed and it's not impossible he figures it out with the bat. He really struggles with balls in the dirt. pitchers know changing eye levels is killer to him but it's not as if he's NEVER hit before.
they're at least in the 30% penalty now.
They are dumping salary.
Rumored to being on the block are Porcello, JBJ, and even Bogearts.
I'd be interested in all 3, but JBJ makes the most sense and should cost the least.
His fWAR prediction is almost all defense, which is not a player I'd pony up big prospects for.
I'm not particularly interested in Bogaerts unless the Mets are extending him immediately. He's going to cost big talent AND a FA after the year. Not emptying out the farm to see the Dodgers or Yankees give him 200 million after the year.
they're at least in the 30% penalty now.
They are dumping salary.
Rumored to being on the block are Porcello, JBJ, and even Bogearts.
I'd be interested in all 3, but JBJ makes the most sense and should cost the least.
His fWAR prediction is almost all defense, which is not a player I'd pony up big prospects for.
If the market for him falls out and we can get him for practically nothing, then sure let's pounce. I'd be happy to be wrong, but given the prevalence of analytic GMs, I'd have to imagine that if BOS made it known that they needed to cut salary and that he was available, at least one team would put a real bid in for him.
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are paying the luxury tax for the second year (after this season).
they're at least in the 30% penalty now.
They are dumping salary.
Rumored to being on the block are Porcello, JBJ, and even Bogearts.
I'd be interested in all 3, but JBJ makes the most sense and should cost the least.
His fWAR prediction is almost all defense, which is not a player I'd pony up big prospects for.
I'm not particularly interested in Bogaerts unless the Mets are extending him immediately. He's going to cost big talent AND a FA after the year. Not emptying out the farm to see the Dodgers or Yankees give him 200 million after the year.
Right, I'd be interested mainly because he's a good player, so I'd do my due diligence.
JBJ would be my main target and I wouldn't want to deal a core player or highly regarded prospect for him.
But, I'd listen on Porcello too, similar to Bogaerts.
What would you be willing to give up for Inciarte? Keep in mind the Braves will want a corner OF so that would mean either Nimmo or Conforto. Now obviously Inciarte alone will not get them Conforto but the Braves will not want Lagares because of his injury concerns and the fact that Acuna Jr. is in CF plus top prospect CF Christian Pache will be ready at some point in 2020.
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are paying the luxury tax for the second year (after this season).
they're at least in the 30% penalty now.
They are dumping salary.
Rumored to being on the block are Porcello, JBJ, and even Bogearts.
I'd be interested in all 3, but JBJ makes the most sense and should cost the least.
His fWAR prediction is almost all defense, which is not a player I'd pony up big prospects for.
If the market for him falls out and we can get him for practically nothing, then sure let's pounce. I'd be happy to be wrong, but given the prevalence of analytic GMs, I'd have to imagine that if BOS made it known that they needed to cut salary and that he was available, at least one team would put a real bid in for him.
Dom Smith and Plawecki isn't nothing. Just because the Mets may not value them. Smith is 1 year away from being a top 100 prospect and leading the PCL in hits and Plawecki had a higher fWAR than any Red Sox catcher last year.
I'd even throw in a someone like TJ Rivera, like I said, who might thrive as a DH/utility infielders at Fenway.
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is there a desire to add a corner and move Acuna to center or is Inciarte locked in? I doubt Atlanta wants to help the mets but he'd be a very nice fit in CF on a very nice contract.
What would you be willing to give up for Inciarte? Keep in mind the Braves will want a corner OF so that would mean either Nimmo or Conforto. Now obviously Inciarte alone will not get them Conforto but the Braves will not want Lagares because of his injury concerns and the fact that Acuna Jr. is in CF plus top prospect CF Christian Pache will be ready at some point in 2020.
Trying to anticipate someone that would interest Atlanta, I'd say Matz or Wheeler. From the Atlanta side that would allow them to sign a COF (like Jones or Markakis) who could arguably even upgrade them offensively from Inciarte, and they'd add a pitcher. Wheeler obviously could be a front of the rotation option though he only has 1 year of control. From the met side they get inciarte and can use $ to sign a SP.
I'd almost definitely do Matz, Wheeler I'd be much more hesitant to trade in division. The fact that Mallex Smith (who i'd value over Inciarte) only returned Zunino would probably lead me to going for a name on the list I posted above that doesn't cost Wheeler but rather some combo of Matz/Plawecki/Dom Smith/Lugo/non top 10 prospects.
I think Cahill would've been a nice add to the Mets at that price. Anything to avoid penciling in Vargas for 25+ starts.
On the cheap I like Jay best and Gomez 2nd best. Jay has played 140 games the last 2 years, last year with positive defense, he doesn't strike out, and while ideally he's just a 4th OF'er, he wouldn't kill you for a month or two playing every day while you either wait for a trade or Cespedes. Gomez brings similar D but is more of a boom or bust option.
While my preference is 1 of the higher upside young guys mentioned above, in a worst case scenario I think you have some flexibility with the OF to think of it as "who can get us through the first half" because even if Cespedes gets delayed it's easy to pickup an OF at the deadline - and at that point you know who is playing well and who isn't among trade targets.
Sprinting speed-
Jones 2015 42/60 28.1 f/s
Jones 2016 41/61 28 f/s
Jones 2017 68/72 27.1 f/s
Jones 2018 62/63 26.7 f/s
The proverbial.. "lost a step" could not be more true
That’s a stretch no? They just spent $20-$25mm for two “name” pitchers. Who may be anywhere from halfway decent to DFAd by the all star break. I look at what they’re doing and the only thing I see is plugging the holes in the dam hoping it doesn’t burst.
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Gio, Holland, Pomeranz remain
That’s a stretch no? They just spent $20-$25mm for two “name” pitchers. Who may be anywhere from halfway decent to DFAd by the all star break. I look at what they’re doing and the only thing I see is plugging the holes in the dam hoping it doesn’t burst.
But these are SP. This would move Vargas to the BP. Holland and Gio are both clearly better than Vargas and Pomeranz would be a CAA special/buy low.
Sprinting speed-
Jones 2015 42/60 28.1 f/s
Jones 2016 41/61 28 f/s
Jones 2017 68/72 27.1 f/s
Jones 2018 62/63 26.7 f/s
The proverbial.. "lost a step" could not be more true
This got me curious about the other guys we are talking about and surprisingly Rajai Davis is still pretty high up on the leaderboard at 29.3. 2nd fastest current met behind Rosario. Obviously his bat sucks but maybe he will be an option as a pinch runner and late game defensive sub if injuries hit. Gomez also at 28 mph.
Really want to snag 1 of:
Buxton - 30.5mph
Mallex - 29.8mph
Broxton - 29.7mph
Margot - 29.4mph
Mallex only cost Zunino. Some combo of Matz/Plawecki/Dom/Lugo should be enough to get 1 of these guys.
I agree on your trio as Mets targets though.
Trying to anticipate someone that would interest Atlanta, I'd say Matz or Wheeler. From the Atlanta side that would allow them to sign a COF (like Jones or Markakis) who could arguably even upgrade them offensively from Inciarte, and they'd add a pitcher. Wheeler obviously could be a front of the rotation option though he only has 1 year of control. From the met side they get inciarte and can use $ to sign a SP.
I'd almost definitely do Matz, Wheeler I'd be much more hesitant to trade in division. The fact that Mallex Smith (who i'd value over Inciarte) only returned Zunino would probably lead me to going for a name on the list I posted above that doesn't cost Wheeler but rather some combo of Matz/Plawecki/Dom Smith/Lugo/non top 10 prospects.
I wish Atlanta was able to hang onto Mallex Smith but I would have made that Luiz Gohara trade 10 times out of 10. Smith was a fan favorite in Atlanta but unfortunately they couldn't start him in a corner OF spot with Inciarte in CF because Smith's bat doesn't profile there. Inciarte is a better defender out of the two. Smith is a very good leadoff man and would be a perfect fit for the Mets.
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those two answers tell you a lot about a guy
that was amazing.
It's a little frustrating that they didn't go hard for him. He's young and they have several good young players locked up for years on cheap deals (Acuna Jr., Albies, Camargo, Swanson, Inciarte) Adding Harper to that lineup would make them the favorites in the NL East. I am actually happy that they didn't do anything big to the rotation but they need to add a reliever to the pen. They will have 5 top 100 prospects in their AAA rotation this year. As of now the likely rotation features Foltynewicz, Newcomb, Gausman, Soroka, Fried/Toussaint. Then there is Luiz Gohara, Kyle Wright, Bryse Wilson, Fried/Toussaint, and Kolby Allard in AAA. Then there is Ian Anderson and Kyle Muller in AA.
I used to be against starting the service time clock with moving SP prospects to the bullpen early on but after seeing the performance of Lugo with the Mets I would love to see the Braves move Gohara, Wilson, and Patrick Weigel to the bullpen this year to strengthen the pen instead of spending huge money that could be used on an OF.
That statement is true for 4 of the 5 teams in the division.
How many times do 26 year old free agents come around that you can say that about??
No love for Ervin Santana?
2 years $24M.