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NFT: Yankees paid CC's $500 k bonus.

section125 : 12/18/2018 7:53 am
Remember when CC plunked Rays catcher Sucre after Kittredge threw behind Romine's head?

CC got ejected 2 innings from achieving the necessary 155 innings to earn a $500k bonus having only thrown 55 pitches leading 11-0.

Turns out the Yanks paid CC the bonus anyway.

We thought they might do so. Good job by the Yanks to back up their pitcher who backed up his catcher
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CC deserved it  
dune69 : 12/18/2018 8:21 am : link
Yanks org stepped up. Classy
yeah, saw that -  
Del Shofner : 12/18/2018 8:26 am : link
good for them.
Personally, I think CC is  
section125 : 12/18/2018 8:33 am : link
about done as an effective pitcher. He rarely goes 6 while living on the black. I love his moxie. But it is the clubhouse presence that I think the Yankees are paying for. Yes he goes out there unafraid and competes, rarely gets hit hard. He sort of eats up the pen with his short starts. Hard to judge where he stacks up against other #5s, but I'm happy he gets his last season and gets to go out on his own accord.
seems like it was likely a no-brainer decision for the Yanks,  
bigbluehoya : 12/18/2018 8:41 am : link
as it should have been, but it's nonetheless nice to watch the team we support do the right thing.
Good...  
Dunedin81 : 12/18/2018 8:57 am : link
I think bringing him back had a lot to do with that too. Not that specific act, but the willingness to stand up for teammates and to be a vocal leader.
RE: Personally, I think CC is  
JPinstripes : 12/18/2018 9:35 am : link
In comment 14224330 section125 said:
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about done as an effective pitcher. He rarely goes 6 while living on the black. I love his moxie. But it is the clubhouse presence that I think the Yankees are paying for. Yes he goes out there unafraid and competes, rarely gets hit hard. He sort of eats up the pen with his short starts. Hard to judge where he stacks up against other #5s, but I'm happy he gets his last season and gets to go out on his own accord.


153 innings last year and a 2.3 WAR - no team in MLB can do better than that for the 5th starter.
Interesting tidbit on Andujar  
JPinstripes : 12/18/2018 9:37 am : link
Beltre has offered to work with him on defense this off season.

Justin Shackil
‏ @JustinShackil
43m43 minutes ago

Looks like Andjar will be working on defense with Adrin Beltr this winter. Beltr turned into a 5x Gold Glove winner after early defensive struggles in his career.
Mets would have done the same thing  
gmenatlarge : 12/18/2018 9:46 am : link
only they would have mortgaged it into paying him 100k a year for the next 30 years!...
RE: Good...  
mfsd : 12/18/2018 9:49 am : link
In comment 14224373 Dunedin81 said:
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I think bringing him back had a lot to do with that too. Not that specific act, but the willingness to stand up for teammates and to be a vocal leader.


Yup, and I like how it was paid without any public statement or fanfare. It was only discovered when their final 2018 payroll became public
I'm against throwing at hitters  
PaulBlakeTSU : 12/18/2018 10:19 am : link
but I'm glad the Yankees stepped up here.
RE: RE: Personally, I think CC is  
section125 : 12/18/2018 10:21 am : link
In comment 14224427 JPinstripes said:
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In comment 14224330 section125 said:


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about done as an effective pitcher. He rarely goes 6 while living on the black. I love his moxie. But it is the clubhouse presence that I think the Yankees are paying for. Yes he goes out there unafraid and competes, rarely gets hit hard. He sort of eats up the pen with his short starts. Hard to judge where he stacks up against other #5s, but I'm happy he gets his last season and gets to go out on his own accord.



153 innings last year and a 2.3 WAR - no team in MLB can do better than that for the 5th starter.


Good stuff. Knew the innings, but not the WAR. Think he has the softest contact or close to it in MLB which is why they need to do something on the left side of the infield defensive.
RE: Interesting tidbit on Andujar  
Jay in Toronto : 12/18/2018 10:29 am : link
In comment 14224433 JPinstripes said:
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Beltre has offered to work with him on defense this off season.

Justin Shackil
‏ @JustinShackil
43m43 minutes ago

Looks like Andjar will be working on defense with Adrin Beltr this winter. Beltr turned into a 5x Gold Glove winner after early defensive struggles in his career.


Hope does for Andujar what Martinez did for Sevvy!
RE: I'm against throwing at hitters  
section125 : 12/18/2018 10:36 am : link
In comment 14224548 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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but I'm glad the Yankees stepped up here.


I am too and you should be, but if necessary it is at the hips or below. Players understand and accept that(they don't like it.)
Very cool.  
Dave in Hoboken : 12/18/2018 11:24 am : link
He deserved it. Good to see the organization take care of their players when it's well-earned/deserved.
Beltran coming back to NYY  
JPinstripes : 12/18/2018 12:26 pm : link
Links to Machado.....?

Mark Feinsand
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14m14 minutes ago

According to a source, Carlos Beltran is expected to join the Yankees as a special advisor to GM Brian Cashman. Beltran was repped by Dan Lozano of MVP Sports Group, who also reps Manny Machado. Will be interesting to see if Beltran is part of the Machado recruiting process.
RE: Beltran coming back to NYY  
Matt in SGS : 12/18/2018 12:30 pm : link
In comment 14224801 JPinstripes said:
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Links to Machado.....?

Mark Feinsand
‏Verified account @Feinsand
14m14 minutes ago

According to a source, Carlos Beltran is expected to join the Yankees as a special advisor to GM Brian Cashman. Beltran was repped by Dan Lozano of MVP Sports Group, who also reps Manny Machado. Will be interesting to see if Beltran is part of the Machado recruiting process.


Didn't the Yankees consider Beltran for the Manager role as well before they picked Boone? Yankees also have a habit of keeping potential future managers in these advisory capacities to reach out to when needed.
they did  
Greg from LI : 12/18/2018 12:32 pm : link
He interviewed for it as one of the finalists.
Are you guys gonna be pissed  
Mike from SI : 12/18/2018 12:41 pm : link
if the Yankees sign Machado and play him as a SS? Just curious.
Nah...  
Dunedin81 : 12/18/2018 12:48 pm : link
an .850 OPS and above average defense (what LAD got from Manny at SS) salves a lot of butthurt.
RE: Are you guys gonna be pissed  
section125 : 12/18/2018 1:01 pm : link
In comment 14224832 Mike from SI said:
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if the Yankees sign Machado and play him as a SS? Just curious.


He will play SS until Didi gets back, then he moves to 3rd base where he is a star.

I doubt they pull an ARod and move Didi to 3rd base.

Question is what happens to Andujar...
RE: RE: Are you guys gonna be pissed  
Mike from SI : 12/18/2018 1:05 pm : link
In comment 14224869 section125 said:
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if the Yankees sign Machado and play him as a SS? Just curious.



He will play SS until Didi gets back, then he moves to 3rd base where he is a star.

I doubt they pull an ARod and move Didi to 3rd base.

Question is what happens to Andujar...


I sincerely hope you're right, but if they sign him for $300 mm on the understanding that he's gonna play SS, guess what....he's gonna stay at SS when Didi gets back and Didi will probably DH and spell him on occasion.
I don't see  
JPinstripes : 12/18/2018 1:14 pm : link
the Yankees (Hal) spending 30M AAV on Machado and then re-upping Didi at 20M AAV, with 4-5 years minimum on each contract.

I could be wrong, but I think signing Machado means Didi gets a QO for 2020 and whatever happens, happens - especially if Machado plays SS at an all star level.
That's a conversation they have to have with him...  
Dunedin81 : 12/18/2018 1:14 pm : link
that said, there's a chance (not a remote one) that Machado turns in a better 2019 as a Yankee shortstop than Didi did in 2018.
RE: That's a conversation they have to have with him...  
section125 : 12/18/2018 1:32 pm : link
In comment 14224896 Dunedin81 said:
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that said, there's a chance (not a remote one) that Machado turns in a better 2019 as a Yankee shortstop than Didi did in 2018.


Defensively? I expect the bat to be better, obviously.

BTW, I just read RAB and he is very pessimistic at them signing Manny. Says the numbers don't add up, but weirdly, Mike sort of thinks signing Happ means they are not signing Machado. He puts $$ up. I don't see the correlation. Thing is Cash said they were getting two SPs and 2 RPs. Mike is butthurt over Corbin, FWIW. However, they still need the RPs and I think he is right that one of Robertson, Ottavino or Miller will be signed. He then expects a lesser signing. Personally, I'd be very worried about Miller and his health at 34 y/o.
FWIW, I think the Yanks will regret not getting Machado if they pass on him. I know the bill will be coming due on Judge, Sevy, Sanchez, Hicks and some others soon. But not winning the World Series would suck because they did not finish off the build.
Frankly, I'm surprised it took this long  
Matt M. : 12/18/2018 1:34 pm : link
As soon as he lost those innings, I thought they would take care of him.
RE: Frankly, I'm surprised it took this long  
YAJ2112 : 12/18/2018 1:43 pm : link
In comment 14224934 Matt M. said:
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As soon as he lost those innings, I thought they would take care of him.


It took this long to come out, not for him to actually get it.
RE: RE: That's a conversation they have to have with him...  
Mike from SI : 12/18/2018 1:48 pm : link
In comment 14224927 section125 said:
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that said, there's a chance (not a remote one) that Machado turns in a better 2019 as a Yankee shortstop than Didi did in 2018.



Defensively? I expect the bat to be better, obviously.

BTW, I just read RAB and he is very pessimistic at them signing Manny. Says the numbers don't add up, but weirdly, Mike sort of thinks signing Happ means they are not signing Machado. He puts $$ up. I don't see the correlation. Thing is Cash said they were getting two SPs and 2 RPs. Mike is butthurt over Corbin, FWIW. However, they still need the RPs and I think he is right that one of Robertson, Ottavino or Miller will be signed. He then expects a lesser signing. Personally, I'd be very worried about Miller and his health at 34 y/o.
FWIW, I think the Yanks will regret not getting Machado if they pass on him. I know the bill will be coming due on Judge, Sevy, Sanchez, Hicks and some others soon. But not winning the World Series would suck because they did not finish off the build.


I am also pissed about Corbin because I'm a believer, but am happy to be wrong :)
RE: RE: RE: That's a conversation they have to have with him...  
section125 : 12/18/2018 2:02 pm : link
In comment 14224956 Mike from SI said:
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I am also pissed about Corbin because I'm a believer, but am happy to be wrong :)


I am semi-disappointed, but thought they passed because they needed money elsewhere, hopefully Manny. I'm sure they had a number and I find it hard to believe the sixth year was the reason, because he would still have been younger than Happ is today. I think they felt adding the sixth year would mean a bidding war and they chose not to participate.
I'm 100% on board with the NYY signing Manny  
arniefez : 12/18/2018 2:13 pm : link
and playing him at SS until Didi comes back. I'm a huge fan of Didi the person and the player and the NYY can see where everything is in June/July/August if he gets back this year and decide what to do at that point. Any team that signs Manny just got a lot better. He is an elite player.
Didi is an above average shortstop...  
Dunedin81 : 12/18/2018 2:25 pm : link
Machado was a below average SS with the O's and average or slightly better SS with LAD. Given a full ST with the Yankees, with their analytics folks, it's a good bet he could be above average or better while Didi is likely to (slowly) decline on range and such.
Don't get your hopes up for Manny....  
Tesla : 12/18/2018 2:38 pm : link
it's extremely unlikely that Yankees will sign him, because doing so and then filling out the rest of the roster would take them into the 2nd and maybe 3rd tier of the luxury tax.

Hal's just not gonna do it....he's interested in maximizing the short term profit of the club above all else.
on the Yankees reddit, someone pointed out that...  
Greg from LI : 12/18/2018 2:47 pm : link
...today is a sad anniversary - it was 25 years ago today that Brien Taylor's career ended when he shredded his shoulder while trying to defend his brother in a fight.

"Bill Livesey is one of the greatest scouts of our era. He told me the best amateur position player he ever saw was A-Rod. The best amateur pitcher he ever saw was Brien Taylor." -- Brian Cashman
that quote was from this story  
Greg from LI : 12/18/2018 2:49 pm : link
and here's another one that will make you want to cry:

"His arm slot was exactly like Randy Johnson's, not sidearm but very low three-quarters. They had the same exact arm slot, only Brien Taylor threw a little bit harder." - Gene Michael
and I forgot the link  
Greg from LI : 12/18/2018 2:50 pm : link
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Link - ( New Window )
I remember the buzz  
dune69 : 12/18/2018 2:56 pm : link
and excitement around Brien Taylor. Sad he never got his chance. We needed him to be great at that time.
If Andujar isn't traded I think we'll find out pretty quickly  
arniefez : 12/18/2018 4:01 pm : link
if he can improve at 3B. The Yankees have set him up with defensive drills for the off season and Beltre says he'll work with him in the DR. After reading RAB today I think he's going to the Yankees opening day 3B.
RE: Don't get your hopes up for Manny....  
JPinstripes : 12/18/2018 4:03 pm : link
In comment 14225031 Tesla said:
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it's extremely unlikely that Yankees will sign him, because doing so and then filling out the rest of the roster would take them into the 2nd and maybe 3rd tier of the luxury tax.

Hal's just not gonna do it....he's interested in maximizing the short term profit of the club above all else.


Agree with this on Hal's MO. The only new variable is the Yankees will take back control of the YES Network in the short term based on some clause with Fox and if the NYY bean counters project the revenue gain from YES Network viewer increase will outweigh some luxury tax dollars post reset, Hal will sign off on it.
Matt Harvey WHAT??????????  
JPinstripes : 12/18/2018 8:18 pm : link
1 year deal

Jon Heyman
‏Verified account @JonHeyman
35s35 seconds ago

Harvey gets 11M plus 3M incentives
ha!  
wigs in nyc : 12/18/2018 8:36 pm : link
Harper might get half a billion
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