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NGT: Ray Rice Done with football, hoping to teach others...

M.S. : 12/18/2018 1:16 pm
...I'm biased because I personally know this young man, but I
believe this CBS video interview with him and his wife (and subsequent commentary)
is about as good an outcome as one could hope for given the circumstances.

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Huge life lesson that you don’t get second chances  
LauderdaleMatty : 12/18/2018 1:31 pm : link
Some times. And how hypocritical people are.

Life isn’t fair. Never heard a bad word about him before or since. And for those who say it’s unforgivable what he did you are entitled to that opinion. I’d answer that all of us hace done shitty things. Getting it on film doomed him sadly
Umm  
mdthedream : 12/18/2018 1:34 pm : link
if the guy didn't show up he was going to kill her. It was crazy and no people don't all just do shitty things like that.
RE: Huge life lesson that you don’t get second chances  
giants#1 : 12/18/2018 1:34 pm : link
In comment 14224926 LauderdaleMatty said:
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Some times. And how hypocritical people are.

Life isn’t fair. Never heard a bad word about him before or since. And for those who say it’s unforgivable what he did you are entitled to that opinion. I’d answer that all of us hace done shitty things. Getting it on film doomed him sadly


Whether he deserves a 2nd chance or not is another question, but while I've done some "shitty things", I've never sucker punched a woman (or man).
What Rice did was incomprehensible...  
figgy2989 : 12/18/2018 1:36 pm : link
He deserved the punishment he received and unfortunately for him, he was the really the guinea pig on how the NFL would handle such situations moving forward.

No defending what Rice did, but the NFL fucked this up royally and was more worried about PR. Sad thing is you see Joe Mixon out there on Sundays and he did the same thing that was on tape for all to see.
RE: Huge life lesson that you don’t get second chances  
UConn4523 : 12/18/2018 1:37 pm : link
In comment 14224926 LauderdaleMatty said:
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Some times. And how hypocritical people are.

Life isn’t fair. Never heard a bad word about him before or since. And for those who say it’s unforgivable what he did you are entitled to that opinion. I’d answer that all of us hace done shitty things. Getting it on film doomed him sadly


He got a second change on life and that's enough. He never had a right to make millions playing a game so I don't feel bad for him one bit. When you uppercut and KO a woman, my respect for you no longer exists.

I'm glad he's been able to move on and have a life, hopefully others will learn from it. But that's about it.
I'm all for second chances  
antdog24 : 12/18/2018 1:38 pm : link
but he knocked her out and dragged her out of the elevator. I mean, who the fuck does that? You knock a woman out, you are supposed to immediately regret it, call for help, try and revive her. That's what did him in, his lack of empathy at the time.
there's protocol for what  
giants#1 : 12/18/2018 1:39 pm : link
to do after knocking a woman out? How about not knocking her out in the first place?
Not an excuse  
mrvax : 12/18/2018 1:42 pm : link
but people on steroids are much more prone to violence and fits of rage.
RE: there's protocol for what  
antdog24 : 12/18/2018 1:46 pm : link
In comment 14224943 giants#1 said:
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to do after knocking a woman out? How about not knocking her out in the first place?

Well obviously.... but he knocked her out and didn't seem to give a fuck.
If you watch the video...  
M.S. : 12/18/2018 1:55 pm : link

...you'll see that no one is "defending" or trying to justify what Ray Rice did. Not Ray, not his wife, Janay, nor the commentators.

What happened was a very ugly incident in their lives, but if you believe in second chances, this video seems to suggest that the couple have made the best out of a bad situation.

As a side note, Ray Rice has been an assistant coach for his high school alma mater, New Rochelle.
He did get a second chance  
UConn4523 : 12/18/2018 1:59 pm : link
he isn’t in prison. So I’m not really sure what else there is to it as far as “believing in second chances”. He was on his way out as a player before this incident, so his career wasn’t really sacrificed, IMO.
His second chance  
spike : 12/18/2018 2:01 pm : link
Is as a HS coach
Let's be honest  
GiantsRage2007 : 12/18/2018 2:04 pm : link
If he was still able to run like he did and go for 6 ypc he'd still be playing no matter what he did

See Mixon, Peterson, etc...
RE: Let's be honest  
terz22 : 12/18/2018 2:06 pm : link
In comment 14224987 GiantsRage2007 said:
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If he was still able to run like he did and go for 6 ypc he'd still be playing no matter what he did

See Mixon, Peterson, etc...


This. And for hunt hell be back as well.
Is "Ray Rice done with football" really news  
GiantNatty : 12/18/2018 2:06 pm : link
when in actuality, football was done with Ray Rice four years ago?
RE: RE: Huge life lesson that you don’t get second chances  
Bchurch : 12/18/2018 2:09 pm : link
In comment 14224940 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 14224926 LauderdaleMatty said:


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Some times. And how hypocritical people are.

Life isn’t fair. Never heard a bad word about him before or since. And for those who say it’s unforgivable what he did you are entitled to that opinion. I’d answer that all of us hace done shitty things. Getting it on film doomed him sadly



He got a second change on life and that's enough. He never had a right to make millions playing a game so I don't feel bad for him one bit. When you uppercut and KO a woman, my respect for you no longer exists.

I'm glad he's been able to move on and have a life, hopefully others will learn from it. But that's about it.


You're spot on.. Ray Rice should be happy he didn't have to go to jail or be put on probation for 5 years.. That's his second chance. I'm sure he's a nice guy 99% of the time.. but he fucked up and deserves to pay a price for it. I feel 0 sympathy for the man. Hopefully he learned from it and doesn't knock his girl out next time she pisses him off.
Why is the fact that it was a woman so important?  
Csonka : 12/18/2018 2:25 pm : link
I'm a guy. If Ray sucker punched and knocked me out cold, it's no big deal? Bullshit. Either way it's assault.
I have sympathy for him  
WideRight : 12/18/2018 2:27 pm : link
He is an outstanding man and talent who made a mistake and apologized sincerely. I understand it he has not had any prior or subsequent events, and the victim has made a full recovery. Ray has served his punishment and should be able to the same opportunities as any man of equal talents.
RE: RE: Huge life lesson that you don’t get second chances  
LauderdaleMatty : 12/18/2018 2:29 pm : link
In comment 14224935 giants#1 said:
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In comment 14224926 LauderdaleMatty said:


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Some times. And how hypocritical people are.

Life isn’t fair. Never heard a bad word about him before or since. And for those who say it’s unforgivable what he did you are entitled to that opinion. I’d answer that all of us hace done shitty things. Getting it on film doomed him sadly



Whether he deserves a 2nd chance or not is another question, but while I've done some "shitty things", I've never sucker punched a woman (or man).


Neither have I. I just find most people are hypocrits. Is hitting someone worse than stealing? Cheating on a spouse? Driving drunk? Congrats on your perfection.
RE: Why is the fact that it was a woman so important?  
UConn4523 : 12/18/2018 2:33 pm : link
In comment 14225013 Csonka said:
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I'm a guy. If Ray sucker punched and knocked me out cold, it's no big deal? Bullshit. Either way it's assault.


You are right, the rest of us are just sexist.
RE: RE: RE: Huge life lesson that you don’t get second chances  
UConn4523 : 12/18/2018 2:36 pm : link
In comment 14225018 LauderdaleMatty said:
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In comment 14224926 LauderdaleMatty said:


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Some times. And how hypocritical people are.

Life isn’t fair. Never heard a bad word about him before or since. And for those who say it’s unforgivable what he did you are entitled to that opinion. I’d answer that all of us hace done shitty things. Getting it on film doomed him sadly



Whether he deserves a 2nd chance or not is another question, but while I've done some "shitty things", I've never sucker punched a woman (or man).



Neither have I. I just find most people are hypocrits. Is hitting someone worse than stealing? Cheating on a spouse? Driving drunk? Congrats on your perfection.


That’s apples to oranges to donuts. No one is perfect but what’s the point of this post? He knocked a woman out and dragged her out of an elevator (something we’d all go to prison for). If he cheated on his wife then they would get divorced like most people who experience infidelity. If he injured someone drunk driving he’d go to prison (we would) or if he just got caught driving intoxicated he’d still face reprocussions.

Thinking he’s a piece of shit for what he did doesn’t make me perfect, it makes him a piece of shit.
Michael Vick did the time and got a second chance  
GMAN4LIFE : 12/18/2018 2:48 pm : link
Rice didnt go to jail. If i were him, i would kiss the floor every day
RE: Why is the fact that it was a woman so important?  
mattyblue : 12/18/2018 4:41 pm : link
In comment 14225013 Csonka said:
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I'm a guy. If Ray sucker punched and knocked me out cold, it's no big deal? Bullshit. Either way it's assault.


You don’t see why it matters that he hit a woman vs a man? Yes it’s assault either way but you actually see no difference?
It was an inexcusable violent act  
Les in TO : 12/18/2018 4:49 pm : link
but kudos to him for doing the right thing, repairing his marriage and owning his major mistake trying to help others avoid falling into a similar fate
RE: Umm  
NYDCBlue : 12/18/2018 6:44 pm : link
In comment 14224932 mdthedream said:
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if the guy didn't show up he was going to kill her. It was crazy and no people don't all just do shitty things like that.


Exactly!
Look at the body language. He was not dealing with a loved one, rather an inconvenient object to be discarded without a second thought.

The wife is lucky to NJ e alive today.
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