The Giants also had three alternates selected: Michael Thomas (special teamer) and Olivier Vernon (outside linebacker) are first alternates, and Odell Beckham, Jr. (wide receiver) is a second alternate. They will get the opportunity to play in the Pro Bowl if a player (or players) at their position cannot participate in the game.
Can we feel good about some of these guys for like a 1/2 second? Barkley & Rosas are both studs. I'm glad they're on our team & not a division rival.
Yeah, we get it. We suck. We've sucked for awhile. But can we at least enjoy some of our players getting some recognition, even if it's a popularity contest?
we read on BBI that Pugh was playing at a Pro-Bowl level. Yet, in 5 years he couldn't get enough recognition to broach the threshold of being a reserve to an alternate to a pro-bowler.
With OV being listed as an OLB and perhaps a weak pooling of candidates from the NFC, then he was selected based on name recognition and the fact that others at OLB just don't measure up.
I don't know. I'm just trying to find an explanation. There is no way he would even be a candidate if he was listed as DE in the NFC.
With OV being listed as an OLB and perhaps a weak pooling of candidates from the NFC, then he was selected based on name recognition and the fact that others at OLB just don't measure up.
I don't know. I'm just trying to find an explanation. There is no way he would even be a candidate if he was listed as DE in the NFC.
There is no NFC or AFC anymore in terms of the probowl.
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With OV being listed as an OLB and perhaps a weak pooling of candidates from the NFC, then he was selected based on name recognition and the fact that others at OLB just don't measure up.
I don't know. I'm just trying to find an explanation. There is no way he would even be a candidate if he was listed as DE in the NFC.
There is no NFC or AFC anymore in terms of the probowl.
Then I guess I just revealed how much I pay attention to it.
With OV being listed as an OLB and perhaps a weak pooling of candidates from the NFC, then he was selected based on name recognition and the fact that others at OLB just don't measure up.
I don't know. I'm just trying to find an explanation. There is no way he would even be a candidate if he was listed as DE in the NFC.
There is no NFC or AFC anymore in terms of the probowl.
some of you guys get all jacked up because he cannot cover speedy RBs out of the backfield for example. He never was a cover guy not even in the year when he had those INTs.
The thing is, that position is more about being a run stopper which is what he is. He is one of the better run stopping strong safeties in the NFC which is why he got voted in.
If the job is more about covering someone, then they would just put another corner out there.
The thing is, that position is more about being a run stopper which is what he is. He is one of the better run stopping strong safeties in the NFC which is why he got voted in.
If the job is more about covering someone, then they would just put another corner out there.
If the job is more about stopping the run, they would just put another LB out there. Probably the job is about doing both.
some of you guys get all jacked up because he cannot cover speedy RBs out of the backfield for example. He never was a cover guy not even in the year when he had those INTs.
The thing is, that position is more about being a run stopper which is what he is. He is one of the better run stopping strong safeties in the NFC which is why he got voted in.
If the job is more about covering someone, then they would just put another corner out there.
Could certainly have used Collins against the Titans this past week.
because he actually makes tackles and doesn't shy away from contact. The Ole moves of Riley, Webb and Jenkins were embarrassing. As Deion would say they were making business decisions. Collins is tough and makes a lot of tackles. Hopefully Barkley and Collins don't go. NFL pro bowl is the dumbest of all the all star games and should be cancelled.
OV is a joke, but Collins is a tackling machine. He led the team in tackles and is very good moving forward in the box. We all know he’s not great in coverage. I think Collins statistically stood out in terms of tackles. He didn’t have any sacks or INTs all year however, but he’s still a solid SS.
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OBJ is a second alternate.
I guess many of us were not watching the games correctly. Oh well.
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Yeah Barks! Good job Rosas.
Yeah, we get it. We suck. We've sucked for awhile. But can we at least enjoy some of our players getting some recognition, even if it's a popularity contest?
Holy fuck. I can’t stop laughing.
I don't know. I'm just trying to find an explanation. There is no way he would even be a candidate if he was listed as DE in the NFC.
Obviously he is highly regarded by his peers and writers.
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He's not a Pro Bowl caliber player. He's not bad, but not one of the top 2 or 3 SS.
Obviously he is highly regarded by his peers and writers.
So was Roy Williams.
If you want to know who the true top-tier players are each year, look at All-Pro teams instead.
Hmmmm. Interesting.
If you want to know who the true top-tier players are each year, look at All-Pro teams instead.
Correct. Warren Sapp made pro-bowls for years with a fork stuck in his back!
Hmmmm. Interesting.
Are you implying that RBs are more fungible?
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He's not a Pro Bowl caliber player. He's not bad, but not one of the top 2 or 3 SS.
Obviously he is highly regarded by his peers and writers.
So was Roy Williams.
Who is Roy Williams and why should I care?
Hmmmm. Interesting.
first player ever
I don't know. I'm just trying to find an explanation. There is no way he would even be a candidate if he was listed as DE in the NFC.
There is no NFC or AFC anymore in terms of the probowl.
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With OV being listed as an OLB and perhaps a weak pooling of candidates from the NFC, then he was selected based on name recognition and the fact that others at OLB just don't measure up.
I don't know. I'm just trying to find an explanation. There is no way he would even be a candidate if he was listed as DE in the NFC.
There is no NFC or AFC anymore in terms of the probowl.
Then I guess I just revealed how much I pay attention to it.
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With OV being listed as an OLB and perhaps a weak pooling of candidates from the NFC, then he was selected based on name recognition and the fact that others at OLB just don't measure up.
I don't know. I'm just trying to find an explanation. There is no way he would even be a candidate if he was listed as DE in the NFC.
There is no NFC or AFC anymore in terms of the probowl.
Yes there is. They switched it back.
The thing is, that position is more about being a run stopper which is what he is. He is one of the better run stopping strong safeties in the NFC which is why he got voted in.
If the job is more about covering someone, then they would just put another corner out there.
The thing is, that position is more about being a run stopper which is what he is. He is one of the better run stopping strong safeties in the NFC which is why he got voted in.
If the job is more about covering someone, then they would just put another corner out there.
If the job is more about stopping the run, they would just put another LB out there. Probably the job is about doing both.
The thing is, that position is more about being a run stopper which is what he is. He is one of the better run stopping strong safeties in the NFC which is why he got voted in.
If the job is more about covering someone, then they would just put another corner out there.
Could certainly have used Collins against the Titans this past week.
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In comment 14225437 Matt M. said:
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He's not a Pro Bowl caliber player. He's not bad, but not one of the top 2 or 3 SS.
Obviously he is highly regarded by his peers and writers.
So was Roy Williams.
Who is Roy Williams and why should I care?
Safety who was only voted in the Pro Bowl by name value and off his past success. Even he made more plays than Collins. And he was ass in coverage.
...okay.
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Phillip Lindsay made it.
Hmmmm. Interesting.
first player ever
Sarcasm, I take it?
OV is a joke, but Collins is a tackling machine. He led the team in tackles and is very good moving forward in the box. We all know he’s not great in coverage. I think Collins statistically stood out in terms of tackles. He didn’t have any sacks or INTs all year however, but he’s still a solid SS.