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pjcas18 : 12/22/2018 10:49 am
so the world juniors starts in 4 days, but there are already exhibition games going on.

Most of the teams with fans on here have players in this tournament. This is IMO the best chance to see the kind of players your teams drafted and some draft eligible players.

Czech Republic is loaded: Martin Necas (CAR), Martin Kaut (COL), Zadina (DET) = all three were 1st round picks, Zadina and Kaut last year, Necas in 2017.

but they're not the favorites.

IMO Canada is.

Owen Tippett (FLA), Nick Suzuki (MTL), Joe Veleno (DET), Bouchard (EDM), Dobson (NYI), Brook (MTL), Ty Smith (NJD), Frost (PHI), Hayton (ARI), probably the best goalie prospect in Cody Glass and the 2020 (yes 2020) projected #1 pick with Alexis Lafreniere, - Canada is absolutely loaded, right now it's Canada then everyone else.

USA has some great talent too, highlighted by:

projected 2019 #1 overall pick Jack Hughes, but also his older brother Quinn Hughes (VAN)
K'Andre Miller (NYR)
Dylan Samberg (BUF)
Mattias Samuelsson (BUF - Kjell's son, Ulf's nephew)
Joel Farabee (PHI)
Josh Norris (OTT)
Ryan Poehling (MTL)
Oliver Whalstrom (NYI)

and solid goalies (Cayden Primeau (MTL) - Keith's son) and Spencer Knight - draft eligible - not sure who the primary goalie will be)

and I've mentioned him before, but one of my favorite players to watch is 5'3" Sean Dhooghe. He has everything you want in a hockey player, other than of course...height. He's 2019 draft eligible, not sure if he gets drafted or not, but I love to watch him play, I hope he gets ice time.

NCAA leading scorer Evan Barratt (Penn state) (CHI) is also on the team and could show some people what that means.

Other teams/prospects to watch:

Kupari (LAK)
Ylonen (MTL)
Kakko (draft eligible, #2 ranked player right now)
Tolvanen (NSH), hard to believe he's still in this tournament, seems like I've been hearing about him forever.

Kravstov, NYR
Podkolzin, draft eligible
Romonov (MTL)

Cajcovik (lit this tourney up last year, one of my favorite players in the 2019 draft)

Boqvist (CHI)
Broberg - draft eligible
Lundqvist, NYR

I'm sure I missed some players too.

USA schedule (All games on NHL Network):

12/26: vs Slovakia @6:30 PM ET
12/28: vs Kazakhstan @10:30 PM ET
12/29: vs Sweden @10:30 PM ET
12/31: vs Finland @10:30 PM ET

QF: 1/2
SF: 1/4
Medal Games: 1/5

Link to the IIHF website is below.

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RE: Kravstov  
Greg from LI : 1/4/2019 7:39 pm : link
In comment 14247758 pjcas18 said:
best player on the ice for either team this game

Music to my ears
Some of the  
Pete in MD : 1/4/2019 7:43 pm : link
Russian players took the loss pretty hard.
RE: Some of the  
pjcas18 : 1/4/2019 7:47 pm : link
In comment 14247826 Pete in MD said:
Russian players took the loss pretty hard.

Klim Kostin (their Captain) the worst. Someone should have pulled him off the ice, they knew the cameras would be all over him.

Like Starman said well, for many of these players, this is the end of their amateur careers. many have been playing with and against each other for 5 or 6 years in international tourneys and now it ends and in a close game like this emotions take hold.

no reason the cameras need to be on him like that, but i get it.
RE: RE: Kravstov  
pjcas18 : 1/4/2019 7:59 pm : link
In comment 14247822 Greg from LI said:
In comment 14247758 pjcas18 said:


best player on the ice for either team this game

Music to my ears

couldn't finish though. he had so many shot and scoring chances.

he was physical, good with the puck, all over the ice on the forecheck and even back checked.

if he was able to finish a couple of those chances Russia is playing for gold.

still, he was the best player IMO.
Are you watching this other  
rnargi : 1/4/2019 8:03 pm : link
RE: Are you watching this other  
pjcas18 : 1/4/2019 8:13 pm : link
In comment 14247839 rnargi said:

Yes. Another Habs prospect (Ylonen) scored the early goal on the turnover.
2 - 0  
pjcas18 : 1/4/2019 8:14 pm : link
cinderlla's slipper might be coming off.
rnargi : 1/4/2019 8:17 pm : link
..Pumpkin! The Swiss look outclassed badly
rnargi : 1/4/2019 8:21 pm : link drama in this game. 3-0 and a quarter way through the first
pjcas18 : 1/5/2019 7:41 pm : link
in the whites again. Hopefully a good omen.
Miller moved  
pjcas18 : 1/5/2019 8:00 pm : link
back to 3rd D pair with Samuelsson.

That's some massive size for Juniors. Samuellson 6'4 220, Miller 6'4" 210.

pjcas18 : 1/5/2019 8:09 pm : link
pjcas18 : 1/5/2019 8:12 pm : link
already making a difference
Slow start for the US  
pjcas18 : 1/5/2019 8:20 pm : link
being outshot 7 - 3 at first TV timeout.

Offensive zone  
pjcas18 : 1/5/2019 8:22 pm : link
penalty for the Fins, US to the PP.
US scored  
pjcas18 : 1/5/2019 8:23 pm : link
but waved off, looked like maybe goalie interference
pjcas18 : 1/5/2019 8:24 pm : link
idea why this should be waived off. Should be a goal.
pjcas18 : 1/5/2019 8:26 pm : link
got robbed.
US forecheck  
pjcas18 : 1/5/2019 8:31 pm : link
forces another penalty. Need to take advantage here.
MadPlaid : 1/5/2019 8:34 pm : link
Thank you for the updates. You are my only access to news of these games
Game is on  
pjcas18 : 1/5/2019 8:37 pm : link
NHL Network if you have it and I believe IIHF has free streams of the events.

US missed a golden opportunity on the PP, Poehling fed across to Chmelevski couldn't bury it.

US going to the PK now.

Primeau shining.
pjcas18 : 1/5/2019 8:41 pm : link
gets a great SH chance on a nice pass from Cockerill.
scoreless first  
pjcas18 : 1/5/2019 8:44 pm : link
good hockey other than the US being robbed. Apparently the call was in the crease but it's pretty clear the puck is also in the crease.
Cockeriil (Iles) and Kemp (Edm)  
Jay in Toronto : 1/5/2019 8:47 pm : link
Were both 7 round picks.
Here is a stream  
Jay in Toronto : 1/5/2019 8:49 pm : link
that works for me. Yesterday I had to watch in Russian LOL

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RE: Cockeriil (Iles) and Kemp (Edm)  
pjcas18 : 1/5/2019 8:54 pm : link
In comment 14248823 Jay in Toronto said:
Were both 7 round picks.

as was Primeau (MTL).
Thanks Jay  
MadPlaid : 1/5/2019 9:02 pm : link
RE: RE: Cockeriil (Iles) and Kemp (Edm)  
Jay in Toronto : 1/5/2019 9:02 pm : link
In comment 14248832 pjcas18 said:
In comment 14248823 Jay in Toronto said:


Were both 7 round picks.

as was Primeau (MTL).

Aren't you pleased ;)
RE: RE: RE: Cockeriil (Iles) and Kemp (Edm)  
pjcas18 : 1/5/2019 9:09 pm : link
In comment 14248855 Jay in Toronto said:
In comment 14248832 pjcas18 said:


In comment 14248823 Jay in Toronto said:


Were both 7 round picks.

as was Primeau (MTL).

Aren't you pleased ;)

Hard to know, goalies are the hardest players to project in these tourneys IMO, but he looks great.

Canadiens traded back into the draft with the Flyers just to take Primeau. they really liked him I him I guess.
US getting chances  
pjcas18 : 1/5/2019 9:09 pm : link
can't bury one.

Back to the PP
pjcas18 : 1/5/2019 9:18 pm : link
score on the PP, up 1 - 0
US to the PP  
pjcas18 : 1/5/2019 9:20 pm : link
really need to even it up here
these refs call things tight  
pjcas18 : 1/5/2019 9:29 pm : link
at times, and then let other stuff go.

Fins to the PP
End of 2  
pjcas18 : 1/5/2019 9:35 pm : link
US being shut out. Down 1 - 0.

Need to generate more offense.

They're being too cute with the puck and looking for the perfect shot. they need to get traffic in front and just shoot.
US running out of time  
pjcas18 : 1/5/2019 10:00 pm : link
under 15 left. Still 1 - 0 Fins.
pjcas18 : 1/5/2019 10:01 pm : link
did what US should be doing - throw the pack at the net with traffic, finds the back.

Fins up 2 - 0
pjcas18 : 1/5/2019 10:03 pm : link
redeems himself and buries one in response.

US cuts the deficit to 1.
pjcas18 : 1/5/2019 10:07 pm : link
just misses tying the game, couldn't handle a beautiful pass from Quinn Hughes.
pjcas18 : 1/5/2019 10:08 pm : link
with a great pass over to Norris.

Norris buries it.

All tied up.

Crowd is disappointed.
pjcas18 : 1/5/2019 10:11 pm : link
just stoned on a short breakaway.

Under 10  
pjcas18 : 1/5/2019 10:13 pm : link
left in the 3rd, all tied up.
5 and a half left  
pjcas18 : 1/5/2019 10:19 pm : link
still tied up.
pjcas18 : 1/5/2019 10:26 pm : link
left in the 3rd, tie game.

Fins have most of the momentum right now.
pjcas18 : 1/5/2019 10:27 pm : link
score the go-ahead goals.

Kaapo Kakko.
pjcas18 : 1/5/2019 10:30 pm : link
win 3 - 2.

They deserved it other than the goal the refs robbed from the US.
In the same bracket next year  
pjcas18 : 1/5/2019 10:32 pm : link
USA, Canada, and Russia. Tough bracket.

Finland gets the Swedes.
Thanks pj  
Jay in Toronto : 1/5/2019 10:37 pm : link
Lost my feed
I was a little disappointed  
pjcas18 : 1/5/2019 10:41 pm : link
in Jack Hughes last two games.

maybe he's injured somewhat. He missed a couple game with undisclosed injury.

I thought he looked better than Kaapo Kakko who wasn't very noticeable until the end.

Past two games Hughes looked small, easily knocked off the puck, couldn't take the physical pounding, and his speed wasn't enough to negate it.

And I was very disappointed in Quinn Hughes. Terrible puck management. Great skater, not great with his decisions.
RE: US  
NYerInMA : 1/5/2019 10:55 pm : link
In comment 14248793 pjcas18 said:
got robbed.

Apparently the IIHF has some bizarre rules about players being in the crease. I guess the ref thought that the playw was dead as soon as the US player entered the crease? I dunno, those rules seem ridiculous. Congrats to the Finns though.
pjcas18 : 1/5/2019 11:13 pm : link
prospects Romanov (RUS) best defenseman in the tournament and Poehling (USA) best forward in the tournament.

Russian goalie got best goalie - which very easily could have gone to Primeau or the Canadiens would have swept the "best" players.

Rangers prospects had a good showing IMO.

The Flyers had players all over this tournament.
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