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baadbill : 12/27/2018 9:20 pm
3-2 Rangers with ~5 minutes left... and man oh man has this turned into a fun game
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Offsides review sucks not because of the time it takes, but because  
baadbill : 1/13/2019 10:27 am : link
the offsides is usually very remote in time and consequence... there is rarely any direct connection between the offsides and the subsequent goal ... it really distracts from the game

Note: there is a legal concept known as proximate cause... that takes into account proximity in time and remoteness... for example, assume John gets into an accident in NJ at 10:00 PM ... if it can be demonstrated that John ran a red light in Maryland at 5:00 PM on his way to NJ, it can be said that his negligence in running the red light had a causal link to his accident in NJ at 10:00 because had he stopped for the red light he almost certainly would not have arrived at the location at 10:00 and the accident would have been avoided.

But the law rejects such arguments and requires that the connection be a more direct and efficient cause of the harm. I would argue that the same concept is why so many of us hate allowing an offsides review to invalidate a subsequent scoring play.
Yes  
pjcas18 : 1/13/2019 10:36 am : link
offsides review in the NHL sucks - your post could have been simple and succinct. every fan knows it sucks.

my point about the time it takes was not indicating the time it takes as the reason it sucks.

my point about the time it takes was that if the NHL would remove short-handed icing, it would likely increase game time and sports are hesitant to do that these days.

If that were an issue that became a sticking point I'd say to remove offsides review thinking that might be something the NHL would consider to even out the time it added by removing short-handed icing.

NHL offsides review should not exist, but it does and the league so far has shown no interest in removing it.

but my point about the time it takes was not my opinion of why it sucks.

sorry I confused you.
Chytil really coming on  
baadbill : 1/13/2019 6:21 pm : link
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And there is the counter, within a minute or so  
baadbill : 1/13/2019 6:24 pm : link
of the Ranger goal... wtf, how does that happen so much?
Georgiev starting back to back games...  
baadbill : 1/13/2019 6:27 pm : link
... giving Hank a few games off to hopefully get his game together?
Wow, Duclair went around Shattenkirk like he just wasn't there  
baadbill : 1/13/2019 6:32 pm : link
... horrible by Shatty, just horrible
Second penalty by Rangers... they really have been giving up  
baadbill : 1/13/2019 6:38 pm : link
way too many penalties over the recent losing streak... way too undisciplined
Third penalty by Rangers  
baadbill : 1/13/2019 6:50 pm : link
... then Kreider with a beautiful goal on 4x4
Rangers outshot 19-7, three PP to Columbus, zero for Rangers  
baadbill : 1/13/2019 6:54 pm : link
... and yet a competitive period by the Rangers... noticeably different play by Rangers over the last 3 games... W or L, it is much more enjoyable watching them when they get back to being a hard working team focusing on jumping on puck
Just watched Krieder's goal and Nieves actually made a really  
baadbill : 1/13/2019 7:09 pm : link
strong play with the puck... 2nd game in a row he's made a big play
Did I hear right  
B in ALB : 1/13/2019 7:16 pm : link
That Nash dropped the first puck tonight? That's awesome.
RE: Did I hear right  
baadbill : 1/13/2019 7:23 pm : link
In comment 14261813 B in ALB said:
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That Nash dropped the first puck tonight? That's awesome.


They had a pre-game ceremony for him... he was out at mid ice with his wife and little girl ... but I missed the actual face-off... that is pretty awesome though
5th penalty by Rangers  
baadbill : 1/13/2019 7:26 pm : link
... geez
Late goal once again... and Rangers looked very lazy  
baadbill : 1/13/2019 7:46 pm : link
on their effort to get the puck out of their zone leading to the goal
Zucc goal ... he has been playing with an edge tonight too  
baadbill : 1/13/2019 7:48 pm : link
... getting back on his game
And then a counter with 2 seconds left in the period  
baadbill : 1/13/2019 7:51 pm : link
wtf is with the Rangers giving up goals late in the period AND giving up goals within a minute of their own goals?
Is Rick Nash a HoFer?  
B in ALB : 1/13/2019 7:54 pm : link
I say yes.
I got some feels  
Sonic Youth : 1/13/2019 7:56 pm : link
watching that intermission interview with Nash
RE: Is Rick Nash a HoFer?  
baadbill : 1/13/2019 8:07 pm : link
In comment 14262034 B in ALB said:
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I say yes.


I really don't know where he stands statistically, but during his time with the Rangers, I was really impressed by how he developed his defensive game. So many goal scorers accomplish that by cheating on their zone responsibilities and always looking to get a jump on a break out, but Nash's game was solid in all areas.
Ah crap... I forgot about the interview.. I wanted to see that  
baadbill : 1/13/2019 8:09 pm : link
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Great interview with Nash  
B in ALB : 1/13/2019 8:17 pm : link
He is a genuinely good guy. Really wish the Rangers could have won him a cup against the Queens.


Shattenkirk is Fucking Atrocious.
Wow, Columbus really dominating play... controlling the puck  
baadbill : 1/13/2019 8:17 pm : link
and keeping it in Rangers zone... finally they score
Pretty amazing how this game turned around  
baadbill : 1/13/2019 8:35 pm : link
2-2 at the end of the first... Rangers had played well when 5x5 but gave Columbus 3 PP

Stayed 2-2 through most of the 2nd... Columbus made it 3-2 with around 5 minutes to go ...

Then in the last 2 minutes of the 2nd, the game got out of control with 3 goals scored, 2 of them by Columbus... to end the 2nd 5-3 and the game was over (and the Rangers played a much a weaker 3rd period)

Shattenkirk with the flyby  
B in ALB : 1/13/2019 8:54 pm : link
On the last Foligno goal. He's awful.
Games tonight, Thu and Sat  
baadbill : 1/15/2019 6:57 pm : link
followed by 10 days off... I'm already going through withdrawal

RE: Games tonight, Thu and Sat  
arcarsenal : 1/15/2019 7:00 pm : link
In comment 14264721 baadbill said:
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followed by 10 days off... I'm already going through withdrawal


Bless your soul... 10 days without the Rangers feels more like a vacation to me.
RE: RE: Games tonight, Thu and Sat  
baadbill : 1/15/2019 7:02 pm : link
In comment 14264722 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 14264721 baadbill said:


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followed by 10 days off... I'm already going through withdrawal



Bless your soul... 10 days without the Rangers feels more like a vacation to me.


lol ... hey, I only watch the Giants and the Rangers... Ranger games are all I have until the draft
Besides, Ryan Lindgren makes his NHL/NYR debut  
baadbill : 1/15/2019 7:07 pm : link
... always fun to watch youngsters play their first game
RE: RE: Games tonight, Thu and Sat  
redbeard : 1/15/2019 7:19 pm : link
In comment 14264722 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 14264721 baadbill said:


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followed by 10 days off... I'm already going through withdrawal




Bless your soul... 10 days without the Rangers feels more like a vacation to me.


Just waiting for pitchers and catchers at this point
Lindgren looking pretty good so far  
baadbill : 1/15/2019 7:28 pm : link
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Speed kills  
baadbill : 1/15/2019 7:36 pm : link
... what a great play
Cheap slashing call on Lindgren  
baadbill : 1/15/2019 7:47 pm : link
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Solid first period by the Rangers  
baadbill : 1/15/2019 7:50 pm : link
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Fun first period  
Kyle in NY : 1/15/2019 8:08 pm : link
More importantly, TSN has Kravtsov as the top prospect in the league. First time Iíve seen him up that high but heís consensus top 10 at least. There were lot of questions surrounding the pick so itís nice to see
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RE: Fun first period  
arcarsenal : 1/15/2019 8:14 pm : link
In comment 14264770 Kyle in NY said:
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More importantly, TSN has Kravtsov as the top prospect in the league. First time Iíve seen him up that high but heís consensus top 10 at least. There were lot of questions surrounding the pick so itís nice to see Link - ( New Window )


Saw that earlier today - I was really pissed that we took him over Wahlstrom that night, but it's starting to look like it was actually a pretty darn good pick and I've warmed up to it exponentially since.

He was playing hurt during Juniors, and every time I watched, it looked like he was in the middle of everything or making a play. I was pretty impressed with him.

Igor is on there too. @ 10, IIRC.
Playing a really strong game so far  
baadbill : 1/15/2019 8:14 pm : link
... can't wait to see the 2018 rookies
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arcarsenal : 1/15/2019 8:15 pm : link
BTW - when was the last time we scored 3 unanswered goals?

I bet we haven't done it since the game we shut out NYI a few weeks back. I've grown conditioned to expect that every goal we score will be answered with a goal by the other team.
RE: .  
baadbill : 1/15/2019 8:22 pm : link
In comment 14264782 arcarsenal said:
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BTW - when was the last time we scored 3 unanswered goals?

I bet we haven't done it since the game we shut out NYI a few weeks back. I've grown conditioned to expect that every goal we score will be answered with a goal by the other team.


Yea, good point. So far, this seems to be their strongest game since the losing streak started. Let's see them do it for 60 minutes.
Rangers controlling possession in this 2nd period  
baadbill : 1/15/2019 8:39 pm : link
... lots of time in the offensive zone
Another really strong period  
baadbill : 1/15/2019 8:46 pm : link
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pjcas18  
Jay in Toronto : 1/15/2019 9:03 pm : link
don't know if you caught the TSN link re top prospects above, but the Canadians get props.
Holy crap... Rangers blow out  
baadbill : 1/15/2019 9:27 pm : link
... who wuoulda thunk it
Now don't ruin it by giving up any cheap goals during the last  
baadbill : 1/15/2019 9:28 pm : link
5 mins
I love the fight  
chopperhatch : 1/15/2019 9:42 pm : link
Of this young team. We have some decisions to make with Zucc and especially Hayes (playing his best hockey). But I love watching a possible rejuvenation period with these guys.
Agree Chop... and I predict the young D Lindgren is here to stay  
baadbill : 1/15/2019 9:46 pm : link
... and I can't wait to see the 2018 draft picks up here... watching rookies and the other young guys that are the future of the team is a lot of fun
No matter how bad the Rangers are  
MetsAreBack : 1/15/2019 10:57 pm : link
The Hurricanes simply cannot win at MSG. It's incredible.

That is now 16 straight - 16! - at home over Carolina
RE: No matter how bad the Rangers are  
baadbill : 11:43 am : link
In comment 14264897 MetsAreBack said:
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The Hurricanes simply cannot win at MSG. It's incredible.

That is now 16 straight - 16! - at home over Carolina


That's incredible
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arcarsenal : 11:58 am : link
That was a really complete game - probably the best one NYR have played in about a month.

It is the Hurricanes, so... take it with a grain of salt.

But it was still nice to see them put together an effort like that and put a bunch of pucks in the net.

Nice night for Tony DeAngelo.
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arcarsenal : 11:59 am : link
Also, Mika might have played his best game last night. He was everywhere.
RE: .  
Kyle in NY : 12:05 pm : link
In comment 14265370 arcarsenal said:
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Also, Mika might have played his best game last night. He was everywhere.


Brassard looks to be on the verge of getting traded by Pittsburgh. Mixed record for Gorton so far but he absolutely nailed that trade. Timed it perfectly. Mika still only 25 and locked up for three more seasons. 41 points in 46 games now
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