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baadbill : 12/27/2018 9:20 pm
3-2 Rangers with ~5 minutes left... and man oh man has this turned into a fun game
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RE: RE: Who is the teenager  
pjcas18 : 1/18/2019 11:18 am : link
In comment 14267530 pjcas18 said:
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coaching the Blackhawks now? Geez what a mess that team has become. Wonder what Toews and Kane are thinking




Probably hoping to get moved at the deadline to a team baadbill doesn't root for, so they can enjoy a cup run.


And this is the team who traded away Panarin and then fired the coach.

I donít have a horse in this particular race,  
yatqb : 1/18/2019 11:23 am : link
but I donít agree with sticking to sports. Being a decent human being takes precedence over pretty much anything else. And racist and anti-gay rants would get my attention if he was spouting them now, no matter what uniform he was wearing.
RE: RE: RE: Who is the teenager  
Anakim : 1/18/2019 11:23 am : link
In comment 14267542 pjcas18 said:
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coaching the Blackhawks now? Geez what a mess that team has become. Wonder what Toews and Kane are thinking




Probably hoping to get moved at the deadline to a team baadbill doesn't root for, so they can enjoy a cup run.



And this is the team who traded away Panarin and then fired the coach.



Joel Q is without question the top coach on the market. No clue why they got rid of him.
RE: I donít have a horse in this particular race,  
Kyle in NY : 1/18/2019 11:30 am : link
In comment 14267544 yatqb said:
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but I donít agree with sticking to sports. Being a decent human being takes precedence over pretty much anything else. And racist and anti-gay rants would get my attention if he was spouting them now, no matter what uniform he was wearing.


Completely agree, but has there been an incident recently that I'm not aware of?
This thread  
JPinstripes : 1/18/2019 11:34 am : link
is an absolute train wreck.

Someone please feel free to start a NY Rangers 2019 thread when they feel can and let this negative stuff stay here and go to the archives....
I'm not going to have a discussion with people who are so anxious  
baadbill : 1/18/2019 11:34 am : link
to defend a racist piece of shit. Go fuck yourself.
Not defending him  
Kyle in NY : 1/18/2019 11:41 am : link
please take a step back, bill
RE: I donít have a horse in this particular race,  
MetsAreBack : 1/18/2019 12:20 pm : link
In comment 14267544 yatqb said:
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but I donít agree with sticking to sports. Being a decent human being takes precedence over pretty much anything else. And racist and anti-gay rants would get my attention if he was spouting them now, no matter what uniform he was wearing.


That's the point. He hasn't spotted them now or in the last 3 years (when he turned 21)

He's not the first highly talented kid to do and say stupid shit at age 16. Apparently that makes him a piece of shit for life though in baadbill's fucked up world of not rooting for free agents or anyone with different political views than him.

Of course, if he did or said something bigoted here, in his mid 20s now... but all means cut his ass. But for now I have no problem forgiving and giving him second chance, etc
Wow  
figgy2989 : 1/18/2019 12:26 pm : link
This thread is a mess. It has turned into the baadbill show.

Maybe we can start another generic Rangers thread, so we don't have to sift though all the BS?
Ha!  
figgy2989 : 1/18/2019 12:27 pm : link
Or what JPinstripes suggested...
TDA  
JPinstripes : 1/18/2019 12:31 pm : link
is playing very good hockey the past few games on both ends of the ice. He is making the Derek Stepan trade look fair for NYR sans Andersson.
RE: Ha!  
JPinstripes : 1/18/2019 12:33 pm : link
In comment 14267679 figgy2989 said:
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Or what JPinstripes suggested...


I am trying not to be rude Figgy...
RE: Wow  
Mad Mike : 1/18/2019 12:35 pm : link
In comment 14267676 figgy2989 said:
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This thread is a mess. It has turned into the baadbill show.

Maybe we can start another generic Rangers thread, so we don't have to sift though all the BS?

Generic seems too ... generic. Maybe one for homegrown Rangers and one for acquired. (Do we need to segment acquired into trades vs. FA signings)?
Mad Mike  
figgy2989 : 1/18/2019 12:42 pm : link
That's the spirit. Maybe in the two threads at the end of each game, we can have the splits between the homegrown and acquired players.

It can be tons of fun.



Beat guys are saying Zucc and Fast are not at practice  
Anakim : 1/18/2019 1:03 pm : link
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RE: Beat guys are saying Zucc and Fast are not at practice  
figgy2989 : 1/18/2019 1:05 pm : link
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Trade? Or could be a possible rest day...
RE: RE: Beat guys are saying Zucc and Fast are not at practice  
Anakim : 1/18/2019 1:07 pm : link
In comment 14267743 figgy2989 said:
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Trade? Or could be a possible rest day...


Correct. One or the other
Neither got injured last night  
figgy2989 : 1/18/2019 1:11 pm : link
So, maybe something is cooking...
RE: Neither got injured last night  
Anakim : 1/18/2019 1:22 pm : link
In comment 14267748 figgy2989 said:
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So, maybe something is cooking...



The vets do tend to take maintenance days. Staal is also not on the ice.
Tony DeAngelo  
baadbill : 1/18/2019 1:53 pm : link
I've not read any posts subsequent to my last post and this post is therefore obviously not in response to such posts.

I have been outspoken in my praise of DeAngelo's hockey play this year. That doesn't change the fact that he has been an outspoken racist/homophobe. The initial comment I made on this thread about his past was that "I found it hard to root for him".

Is he still a racist pig or has he learned to keep his voice shut with a potential multi-million dollar future on the line? He's the one who has chosen a career that makes him a public figure and, as such, as far as I am concerned it is his burden to persuade good people of conscience that he has changed and his past doesn't entitle him to any presumption that the hatred of minorities that defined him previously no longer remains in his heart.

He doesn't owe me shit. Nor do the Rangers or the NHL. But, as a fan, if DeAngelo doesn't want me periodically speaking my mind about who is he and what he stands for, then he can convince me he is a changed man.

How might he do that? Well, let's take a look at someone who did exactly that. Michael Vick. I love animals and I have grown own with a dog as a part of my family my entire life. I hated Michael Vick with a burning intensity that was hard to describe. But he did the one thing that he possibly could to change my mind: He came out of prison and publicly owned his past and put it out there for everyone to judge. He answered the tough questions (not to my satisfaction, but enough that I was willing to let my hatred go.

As an aside, Adrian Peterson and Ray Rice are two people who have not convinced me they have truly changed in their hearts and I remain convinced they would both repeat their past behaviors so long as they were convinced they would not be caught.

So, Tony DeAngelo was - and until he does something to persuade me otherwise, remains the ugly, vile human being he has always been. And until I am convinced he has changed in his heart, I will find it difficult to root for him.
RE: RE: Beat guys are saying Zucc and Fast are not at practice  
Anakim : 1/18/2019 1:55 pm : link
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Trade? Or could be a possible rest day...


Brian Heyman
‏@bheyman99

David Quinn says just maintenance days today for Zucc, Fast, Staal, will be playing tomorrow vs the #Bruins. #nyr #nhl
Hopefully TDA  
JPinstripes : 1/18/2019 3:04 pm : link
keeps playing the way he is playing the past few games. Strong positional/tactical D, the ability to pass and carry the puck up the ice with relative ease and control the puck on his stick.

The kid is a an improving player.
RE: RE: RE: Beat guys are saying Zucc and Fast are not at practice  
figgy2989 : 1/18/2019 3:09 pm : link
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Trade? Or could be a possible rest day...



Brian Heyman
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David Quinn says just maintenance days today for Zucc, Fast, Staal, will be playing tomorrow vs the #Bruins. #nyr #nhl


Thanks Anak
Braving a snow storm and a windchill below zero  
redbeard : 1/18/2019 8:08 pm : link
To bring you fucks an in person scouting report on KíAndre Miller

Except Iím also gonna be a few liters of Spottd Cow in so itíll be boiled down to four letter words and superlatives
RE: Braving a snow storm and a windchill below zero  
pganut : 1/18/2019 8:25 pm : link
In comment 14268044 redbeard said:
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To bring you fucks an in person scouting report on KíAndre Miller

Except Iím also gonna be a few liters of Spottd Cow in so itíll be boiled down to four letter words and superlatives
Your brethren don't deserve you, red. Hope you're doing well, pal.
I will not apologize that I detest bigots  
baadbill : 1/19/2019 11:45 am : link
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That is if DeAngelo can stay out of his own way. Despite all the talent, he fell to 19th overall in the 2014 NHL Draft. Then, despite posting tremendous numbers in the OHL, Tampa Bay traded him a year later for the 37th overall pick. Now his move to the Rangers is his third NHL team already. The not-so-secret concern about DeAngelo is his attitude.

A few incidents became widespread news because of severity and circumstance. DeAngelo was suspended in the OHL for abuse of an official in 2014, and then again this past season in the NHL for the same thing. Also in 2014, he was suspended for eight games for directing bigoted remarks towards his own teammate. There seems to be this spreading notion that DeAngelo is being smeared for a few teenage incidents in the heat of the moment; kids will be kids. These instances are tremendous red flags even when viewed in isolation. Even still, the problems with DeAngelo run way deeper than these three particular incidents.

There is plenty more that hasnít reached the mainstream. I spoke to a well-connected OHL employee, and he remarked that coaches across the league went through a ďdaily struggleĒ dealing with DeAngelo; the words ďgong showĒ were used. The way it was described to me, DeAngelo is fine when things are going well. Heís highly competitive, and so when the team is winning, heís at his best. Otherwise, heís a ticking time bomb.

Furthermore, I spoke to multiple people with knowledge of DeAngelo back to his days in youth hockey in New Jersey. Nobody was willing to go on the record with specifics, but the message was uniform across the board.

ďThereís plenty out there for anyone with a brain to figure out the kind of guy he is,Ē was one way one person put it to me.


As I said... not someone I find it easy to root for... especially since he hasn't stepped up to the plate and owned (disavowed)his past... until he does, he is nothing but someone who knows his racism may cost him potentially millions of dollars, so he keeps his mouth shut.

His non-existent NHL career thus far isn't because of lack of talent. I'd love to give him a second chance - but he hasn't given me anything... no signs of remorse or ownership of his past ... nothing... nada.

Bigotry is something that deserves being fought - very aggressively - wherever it is found ... and bigots do not "deserve" second chances, they have to earn them. DeAngelo has done exactly nothing to earn anything from the public.
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baadbill : 1/19/2019 11:47 am : link

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You are quoting stuff from 2014  
MetsAreBack : 1/19/2019 3:56 pm : link
When he was a teenager. Other unnamed sources from junio hockey. Awesome

He was suspended for the bigoted remarks so he paid the price already.

TDA doesn't owe you anything. Feel however you like about him - I could give a fuck less what you think.
I know it doesn't mean much for the Rangers  
NYerInMA : 1/19/2019 6:14 pm : link
but I always hope for them to beat the Bruins, especially in Boston. I almost bought tickets for this game, but in retrospect between the Rangers' terrible play and tonight's snowstorm it's probably best that the wife and I aren't trudging to TD Garden tonight. I'll be watching on NESN with the mute on to avoid their horrible announcers.
Scumbag Bruin  
B in ALB : 1/19/2019 9:38 pm : link
Knocks Fast out the game and they're on the PP. Unfuckingbelievable.
Bill..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/19/2019 9:45 pm : link
you really seem to have a shitload of criteria you use to figure out the amount of joy you get out of rooting for teams.
RE: Scumbag Bruin  
baadbill : 1/19/2019 9:49 pm : link
In comment 14268685 B in ALB said:
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Knocks Fast out the game and they're on the PP. Unfuckingbelievable.


Horrendous call.
RE: Bill..  
baadbill : 1/19/2019 9:52 pm : link
In comment 14268690 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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you really seem to have a shitload of criteria you use to figure out the amount of joy you get out of rooting for teams.


Nah... I just refuse to tolerate bigots, wherever they can be found... nor will I give an inch to people who support them.
Really fun to watch Chytil grow ... I think he turns into a star  
baadbill : 1/19/2019 9:54 pm : link
sooner than most think
Post game ... just said NYR are 1st in the league with 11 goals  
baadbill : 1/19/2019 9:59 pm : link
this season directly off the faceoff.
Awesome stat  
MetsAreBack : 1/19/2019 10:05 pm : link
And kudos to your courageous stand against holding teenagers accountable for life. Admirable.
Being so rigid  
xman : 1/19/2019 10:19 pm : link
is limiting.
Rangers 3 in a row ... still just 4-6-0 over last 10...  
baadbill : 1/19/2019 11:06 pm : link
but I am still pretty amazed how this team has the grit to climb out of the dark hole they were in... I don't completely get how they seem to outplay their talent level... and doing it without Hayes

Huge factor tonight was the PK... and the KZZ line which has been on fire.

Already getting depressed there won't be Rangers hockey for 10 days... ugh
RE: You are quoting stuff from 2014  
baadbill : 1/20/2019 11:10 am : link
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I could give a fuck less what you think.


Wow. I obviously struck a nerve and your defense of DeAngelo has become way too personal. Iíll step back and meanwhile suggest you chill.
baadbill  
arniefez : 1/20/2019 11:20 am : link
asslickers and sheep will excuse and defend any behavior as long as the idol wears their favorite clothes. You've stirred one of the sheep and the head asslicker on this thread. Anyone that excuses that kind of bigotry for any reason is someone to be leery of and question too.
RE: baadbill  
baadbill : 1/20/2019 11:51 am : link
In comment 14268979 arniefez said:
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asslickers and sheep will excuse and defend any behavior as long as the idol wears their favorite clothes. You've stirred one of the sheep and the head asslicker on this thread. Anyone that excuses that kind of bigotry for any reason is someone to be leery of and question too.



Agree. And the thing is, I love the Rangers ... I have all of my life ... and I enjoy discussing them ... and all I said is that DeAngelo is really coming on strong with his talent but that I struggle (inside of myself) with his history. Not exactly a strident or revolutionary comment. But it sure hit way too close to home for some people, which is just sad.

But Iíd really like to move on. I never intended it to get so personal for some.
With Feb 25th quickly approaching and the Rangers on a 3 game  
baadbill : 1/20/2019 2:26 pm : link
winning streak, Iíd like to see the Rangers pull the trigger on some major trade sooner rather than later. This is especially true if the team ends up trading guys like Hayes, Kreider, Vesey, Fast, Namestikov, and Zucc as suggested by Bluesheet Banter.

If they move a significant portion of that group, then do it now and not after they accumulate more wins. Iíll still enjoy watching the kids fight and scratch,but why hold onto guys if youíve already determined they arenít going to be here in 30 days (or in 3 years)?
Blue line Station Awards at Allstar Break  
baadbill : 1/21/2019 7:31 pm : link
Interesting article ... and I agree with their selections for their three categories ... DeAngelo, Kreider, and Zibanejad... I donít know what category Iíd create,and I didnít look at his stats, but Fast is having a great year and is having a huge impact on the team imo.
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Zucc out with a foot infection ... Hayes back ... and the fucking  
baadbill : 1/29/2019 7:09 pm : link
Flyers in town... assholes... but they are ahead of the Rangers in the race for draft position... god I hate the asshole Flyers
That didn't take long  
baadbill : 1/29/2019 7:44 pm : link
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I'm anxious to see Ryan Lindgren's return  
baadbill : 1/29/2019 7:56 pm : link
... hopefully sooner rather than later
Rangers dominated play for the 2nd half of the 1st...  
baadbill : 1/29/2019 8:20 pm : link
have to be concerned about Howden's knee
Rangers play a good game... clearly the better team...  
baadbill : 1/29/2019 10:12 pm : link
and help themselves in the draft race... not a bad result... but Howden knee sprain has to be a concern... hopefully it really is only a sprain without any internal damage
RE: baadbill  
MetsAreBack : 1/29/2019 10:19 pm : link
In comment 14268979 arniefez said:
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asslickers and sheep will excuse and defend any behavior as long as the idol wears their favorite clothes. You've stirred one of the sheep and the head asslicker on this thread. Anyone that excuses that kind of bigotry for any reason is someone to be leery of and question too.


Asslicker? No, I just don't take teenager verbal comments too seriously. If he fucks up as an adult - i'll be the first to want him shipped out.

Tough loss - looked ok but almost 2 weeks off. Anyway, Rangers threads have become baadbill personal blogs much like mets are DMM/ZG debates so I think I'll focus elsewhere
Quinn said Howden could be ďout for a while.Ē  
baadbill : 1/30/2019 12:16 pm : link
And this "reporter" says:

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There is was no clear play that Howden seemed to be favoring his knee.


Idiot. Watch the game please. Howden ran right into the butt of one of the Flyers against the boards. He immediately went off the ice and was seen by the trainer and it was immediately the subject of the in game discussion. How can you write an article and literally make shit up?
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