And the score was 30 seconds or so after Howden was all over a loose puck in front of Pittsburgh's net and he was literally tackled while the puck was loose - with not a glance by the officials (nor a word from the announcers).
don't quit... they give 110% right down to the last second even when the game seems out of hand (which hasn't been often... they've been in almost every game)
And there is Fast literally tackled while the puck was still loose
fine line when you take 5he body the way he does, but hes useless to the Rangers if hes going to get constantly penalized - regardless whether the penalty is warranted or not ... refs are going to be quicker to c@ll boarding on guys like McLeod and bottom line is he has to avoid hurting the team or they cant h@ve him out there ... end of story
Yeah it was. It was the perfect time. I don't get that whole "well, we're not going to put out a skeleton squad." Everyone knew that this team would suck this year so the point was to suck a little less and then trade him at the deadline when we'd be seen as desperate?
Cant thebe said about whomever the Rangers trade at the deadlin
The only difference being theyre playing well (at least in the instance of Hayes and/or Kreisler)? I mean how would you know Zucch would have such a tough year? And was he really that bad before his injury?
Im going to guess he still has a wickedly accurate shot, incredible passing instincts, and great on the shootouts - but just isnt getting the attempts... but who wouldve known that last summer?
Per @Boogaard_2 Vitali Kravtsov played with a torn triceps in #WJC playoffs. He started to play C in November. Never played there before. Being a bronze medalist as a 1st line C with 12 games experience at the position is quite an achievement #NYR
Hayes, who was sidelined for Friday nights 6-1 paddy whacking in Colorado with unidentified issues lingering from a Dec. 14 crash into the rear wall that had limited the centers practice time in the interim, has not skated since Wednesdays 7-2 rout by the Penguins at the Garden.
Per @Boogaard_2 Vitali Kravtsov played with a torn triceps in #WJC playoffs. He started to play C in November. Never played there before. Being a bronze medalist as a 1st line C with 12 games experience at the position is quite an achievement #NYR
I thought he looked great. Incredibly skilled. Looked to be a bit weak along the boards. That's my only critique so far.
Per @Boogaard_2 Vitali Kravtsov played with a torn triceps in #WJC playoffs. He started to play C in November. Never played there before. Being a bronze medalist as a 1st line C with 12 games experience at the position is quite an achievement #NYR
maybe the torn triceps is why he couldn't finish his scoring chances.
otherwise he looked fine to me, he was all over the ice.
I can see triceps limiting your shooting ability.
Rangers being outworked ... which is something new and not
on out of control with all the penalties one after another (and all mostly stupid and unnecessary) ... I hate to say it, but that is lays directly at the feet of the coaching staff (just as has the too many men penalties)... I think Quinn has been great, but he needs to take responsibility too
They're going to give up 6 goals again? For the 3rd game in a row?
I know SOG isn't everything, but most recent games we're outshot at least 2 if not 3 periods by a ton. This game was 16-3 a while ago at 3-0. Now shots overall is 33-14 end 2nd. Not going to win games like that
Saves me the trouble of tuning in. Wake me in June for the draft.
Except all those damned loser points mean that they have to continue to play like this for quite a while to have even a so-so chance to move into the top 5.
I don't know what "embraced the tank" is intended to imply, but
it is certainly disturbing to go from the first period of the Pittsburgh game - which I think was the best 20 minutes of hockey they've played this season - and to end up where they are now ... it's inexplicable to me ... esp today when it was clear they were being outworked.
As always, I really hope they end up with a very high draft pick... but meanwhile I'll still be watching each game... something that has suddenly been very difficult to do. I'm going to be very interested to see if Quinn is able to get them back to playing high intensity and focused hockey or if he's lost them and they've just given up (and what the ramifications of that would be next year and beyond).
that with the Blackhawks win tonight if 3 Rangers regulation wins wee regulation losses they'd be in last place.
of course it's hard to try and lose in the NHL and even finishing in last doesn't guarantee the top pick, but they'll get a good pick regardless in a good draft.
They're a terrible team that has the worst collection of defensemen in the league and has zero elite scoring talent.
Im fully aware of their lack of talent. Thats out of their immediate control. Whats inexplicable is going from playing their best period of hockey of the season to giving up 18 goals in the subsequent 8 periods of undisciplined, uninspired, lack of effort hockey.
They're a terrible team that has the worst collection of defensemen in the league and has zero elite scoring talent.
Well said. I mean we knew it going in. I mean when Pavel Buchnevich is considered your one and only scoring and sniping threat on the wing, you're gonna have a bad year.
What'd you think of Kakko at the WJC? Didn't watch the tournament too closely this time around so I'm curious. And it's pretty clear it's time for Rangers fans to shift focus to the draft
in Kakko and Hughes. I only watched the two Fins games vs the US and part of Finland Sweden.
Kakko was mostly not noticeable until, and not minimizing it, the gold medal winning goal. And you score that goal and people over weight your performance.
Hughes was asked before the tournament how he felt going in and he said (my paraphrasing) I can't wait to play against mostly my own level, it's not easy playing Western Michigan and 23 year old Canadian kids every night (the USNTDP plays a lot of NCAA teams).
Hughes looked electric with the puck in space, but man he was knocked off the puck way to easily and too often. He did miss 3 games with injury, and he set up goals against Russia and Finland, but it's his size (against his own level) that worried me.
He's still 17 years old, but Kakko for comparison at the same age is 6' 2" and almost 200 pounds. Hughes is 5' 10" (maybe) and 165 pounds. Hughes speed wasn't enough to counter the physicality at this level and that concerned me.
I hope he was injured.
Kakko got raves from his teammates. Tolvanen said he has to be the #1 pick.
I thought Kravstov had a great tournament and K'Andre Miller looked exactly as advertised, big, athletic, raw.
Miller played more defensive than offensive, which is good to see for a converted forward, and he flashed offensive skills on a couple rushes, but lost his man defensively a few times. One led to a Russia goal (I think - not going to re-watch it - I'm pretty sure it was Miller with net-front coverage).
overall I don't think Hughes moved off #1, but I'm going to back off Patrick Kane comps for now. and with my preference for bigger players, I wouldn't mind having the #2 pick and getting Kakko.
I do wonder if we see these two at the U18 worlds this April.
I know Hughes is still 17 for the tourney, I think Kakko turns 18 just before it, not sure who can be in it and if they will or not.
And the score was 30 seconds or so after Howden was all over a loose puck in front of Pittsburgh's net and he was literally tackled while the puck was loose - with not a glance by the officials (nor a word from the announcers).
Why embarrass your HOF goalie when he's having an off night... should have removed him after the 2nd period
solid move by Crosby (still hate him though)
I like the Malkin would have more cups if better supporting cast one the best... - ( New Window )
solid move by Crosby (still hate him though) I like the Malkin would have more cups if better supporting cast one the best... - ( New Window )
Damn it... that's pretty cool. But he's still a cry baby.
Yeah it was. It was the perfect time. I don't get that whole "well, we're not going to put out a skeleton squad." Everyone knew that this team would suck this year so the point was to suck a little less and then trade him at the deadline when we'd be seen as desperate?
Im going to guess he still has a wickedly accurate shot, incredible passing instincts, and great on the shootouts - but just isnt getting the attempts... but who wouldve known that last summer?
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Dec 14th? That's not good.
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I thought he looked great. Incredibly skilled. Looked to be a bit weak along the boards. That's my only critique so far.
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Per @Boogaard_2 Vitali Kravtsov played with a torn triceps in #WJC playoffs. He started to play C in November. Never played there before. Being a bronze medalist as a 1st line C with 12 games experience at the position is quite an achievement #NYR
maybe the torn triceps is why he couldn't finish his scoring chances.
otherwise he looked fine to me, he was all over the ice.
I can see triceps limiting your shooting ability.
Ugly stuff
Ugly stuff
That was the AZ 4th line that kept the puck in the Rangers' zone for over 2 minutes 5x5 ... I agree, really ugly
And now Kreider taking a really dumb penalty - from frustration ... but, dumb
Oh yea, I forgot they gave up 7 to Pittsburgh... yikes
Except all those damned loser points mean that they have to continue to play like this for quite a while to have even a so-so chance to move into the top 5.
As always, I really hope they end up with a very high draft pick... but meanwhile I'll still be watching each game... something that has suddenly been very difficult to do. I'm going to be very interested to see if Quinn is able to get them back to playing high intensity and focused hockey or if he's lost them and they've just given up (and what the ramifications of that would be next year and beyond).
of course it's hard to try and lose in the NHL and even finishing in last doesn't guarantee the top pick, but they'll get a good pick regardless in a good draft.
Im fully aware of their lack of talent. Thats out of their immediate control. Whats inexplicable is going from playing their best period of hockey of the season to giving up 18 goals in the subsequent 8 periods of undisciplined, uninspired, lack of effort hockey.
Well said. I mean we knew it going in. I mean when Pavel Buchnevich is considered your one and only scoring and sniping threat on the wing, you're gonna have a bad year.
Way negative on shot differential even 5v5
neutral puck luck (so not lucky or unlucky)
and tends to the undisciplined side:
I think the author is Canadian, they butcher the English language. I love his charts though.
Kakko was mostly not noticeable until, and not minimizing it, the gold medal winning goal. And you score that goal and people over weight your performance.
Hughes was asked before the tournament how he felt going in and he said (my paraphrasing) I can't wait to play against mostly my own level, it's not easy playing Western Michigan and 23 year old Canadian kids every night (the USNTDP plays a lot of NCAA teams).
Hughes looked electric with the puck in space, but man he was knocked off the puck way to easily and too often. He did miss 3 games with injury, and he set up goals against Russia and Finland, but it's his size (against his own level) that worried me.
He's still 17 years old, but Kakko for comparison at the same age is 6' 2" and almost 200 pounds. Hughes is 5' 10" (maybe) and 165 pounds. Hughes speed wasn't enough to counter the physicality at this level and that concerned me.
I hope he was injured.
Kakko got raves from his teammates. Tolvanen said he has to be the #1 pick.
I thought Kravstov had a great tournament and K'Andre Miller looked exactly as advertised, big, athletic, raw.
Miller played more defensive than offensive, which is good to see for a converted forward, and he flashed offensive skills on a couple rushes, but lost his man defensively a few times. One led to a Russia goal (I think - not going to re-watch it - I'm pretty sure it was Miller with net-front coverage).
overall I don't think Hughes moved off #1, but I'm going to back off Patrick Kane comps for now. and with my preference for bigger players, I wouldn't mind having the #2 pick and getting Kakko.
I do wonder if we see these two at the U18 worlds this April.
I know Hughes is still 17 for the tourney, I think Kakko turns 18 just before it, not sure who can be in it and if they will or not.