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Assign blame by percentage for the season

Now Mike in MD : 12/31/2018 11:30 am
Since there are a lot of arguments as to whether Eli is to blame or the defense or a combination, I'm curious what percentage blame people would assign for the season to various units/people.

For me, I would assign blame as follows:

Defense: 50 percent
OL: 30 percent
Eli: 10 percent (maybe 15)
Shurmur: 10 percent
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JCin332 : 12/31/2018 11:32 am : link
Eli- 150%
Rest of team- 0%



- Les
Metlife stadium  
dep026 : 12/31/2018 11:32 am : link
has to be like 65%, no? How can a team be motivated playing in a shitcan like that?
Plenty to go around  
jeff57 : 12/31/2018 11:34 am : link
Front office, coaches, players. Barkley and Rosas are the only two who escape blame.
Let’s see  
GoDeep13 : 12/31/2018 11:36 am : link
Eli - 20%

Lack of Pass rush - 20%

O-line - 35%

Shurmur - 25%
Saquon Barkley  
crick n NC : 12/31/2018 11:37 am : link
Gets the blame. If you draft a RB that high the team should automatically be a contender no matter what shape the rest of the team is
the fish rots from the head  
pjcas18 : 12/31/2018 11:40 am : link
I'm not into allotting blame as percentage, but that's where it starts.

and a true leader would acknowledge that.
If there is any blame it goes to the previous regime who left  
That’s Gold, Jerry : 12/31/2018 11:40 am : link
us Mother Hubbard's cupboard. So I give the entire organization a pass this season but not next year. Gettleman has had enough time now and we need another strong draft and a couple of impactful FA signings to help us out.
just a ridiculous question that is unverifiable and really  
plato : 12/31/2018 11:41 am : link
unanswerable. It s a credit that BBIforum survives posts like this
Hmm  
Sammo85 : 12/31/2018 11:45 am : link
John Mara - 50%
Jerry Reese - 25%
Odell Beckham - 5%
Eli Manning - 5%
Pat Shurmur - 5%
Dave Gettleman - 5%
James Bettcher - 5%
At 1-7  
joeinpa : 12/31/2018 11:55 am : link
You can place a large part of the blame the O line, they were beyond horrible. Phil Simms has stated, “ I don t know how you overcome a bad offensive line. “

Second half, 4-4, much blame can be placed on the defense which was beyond hapless when it mattered.


Put me in  
Giant John : 12/31/2018 11:58 am : link
The rediculous corner. Defense was biggest disappointment. Thought Eli was good but not as mobile as we need.
DL 30%, LB 20%, OL 20%, DB 15%  
yatqb : 12/31/2018 12:05 pm : link
OBJ injury 5%, Shurmur play-calling at end of games 10%.
Fairly simple here...  
bw in dc : 12/31/2018 12:07 pm : link
Jints Central 100%.

Any other answer is 100% wrong.

They’ve created this calamity. And we’re just in the middle of it.

I expect this darkness to hang over us for another five years...at least.
LOL..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 12/31/2018 12:12 pm : link
Good old Jints Central
I’m surprised  
Sammo85 : 12/31/2018 12:14 pm : link
nobody has assigned or blamed BBI.
The season was a success.....  
Dry Lightning : 12/31/2018 12:18 pm : link
There was no way they were ever going to win a championship this year. They have reset the culture, filled the roster with young and up and coming players (Barkley, Hill, Hernandez) and set the stage for the team to eventually ascend. How anyone thought they would be good this year baffles me (I predicted two wins in the prediction thread. Whether they draft Eli's replacement or not, I think ELi is going to be the QB next year of an improved team between 7 and 10 wins. All years fall short when you don't win the SB, but being headed in the right directions means a whole bunch.
Sammo  
idiotsavant : 12/31/2018 12:20 pm : link
'BBI'.. hehehe ...
Need to include , the NFL schedulers, OV high ankle sprain,  
George from PA : 12/31/2018 12:35 pm : link
Reese, Gettlemen, Barkley(in a positive way).
Mara - 100%  
Go Terps : 12/31/2018 12:37 pm : link
Last offseason was crucial, and he got it all wrong.
BBI posters  
Alan in Toledo : 12/31/2018 12:39 pm : link
8%
Jerry Reese 15%  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 12/31/2018 12:40 pm : link
OLine 50%
Defense 35%
RE: Mara - 100%  
kinard : 12/31/2018 12:46 pm : link
In comment 14241353 Go Terps said:
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Last offseason was crucial, and he got it all wrong.


Just curious - Why are you blaming Mara for everything? If you didn't like the Gettleman/Shurmer combo (and I'm not saying that this was absolutely the right call), who of the available candidates would you have hired? Would you have kept Reese and McAdoo?

I thought Gettleman's draft was very good (with the exception Laurletta). I liked Shurmer but was hoping he would be a better game-day coach.
Mara 40% for night firing Reese sooner  
Chip : 12/31/2018 12:53 pm : link
Oline 30%
defense 30%
RE: just a ridiculous question that is unverifiable and really  
pjcas18 : 12/31/2018 12:59 pm : link
In comment 14241201 plato said:
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unanswerable. It s a credit that BBIforum survives posts like this



I understand your philosophy Plato, but this is clearly an opinion question, not a math problem. You don't need to "show your work" with a question like this and it's absolutely answerable though the quality of answers does vary.

Without posts like this there would not be a BBI.
RE: just a ridiculous question that is unverifiable and really  
Now Mike in MD : 12/31/2018 12:59 pm : link
In comment 14241201 plato said:
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unanswerable. It s a credit that BBIforum survives posts like this


Ah yes, because so many subjects debated on BBI are answerable and objectively verifiable.

Good talk
We started the season with an o-line that was a disgrace, and that  
Bob in Newburgh : 12/31/2018 1:13 pm : link
is on the coaching staff. Like Brady, Eli has no chance behind a line that bad.

We would have been in the playoff hunt if we had gotten off to at least a mediocre start.
RE: We started the season with an o-line that was a disgrace, and that  
Now Mike in MD : 12/31/2018 1:16 pm : link
In comment 14241439 Bob in Newburgh said:
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is on the coaching staff. Like Brady, Eli has no chance behind a line that bad.

We would have been in the playoff hunt if we had gotten off to at least a mediocre start.


How's that on the coaching staff? The old adage "You can't make chicken salad out of chicken sh%t" comes to mind. I'm not saying I know for certain the staff didn't coach these guys up, but it seems that this was a talent issue because once Brown came in (not that he is an All Pro), the OL greatly improved.
Easy...  
trueblueinpw : 12/31/2018 1:21 pm : link
Eli 50%
OBJ 50%
Shurmur 50%
Gettleman 75%
John Mara 1000000000000%
Rosas and Dixon need to factor into this because they’re kicker and that just won’t do, 8% each.
Eli, again, because he’s not as mobile as Dak who wins more and wins bigger with any help from his line or running back or receiver which Eli doesn’t do, another 50% blame.
OBJs social media account get 28%, maybe even as much as 34% of the blame.
The Rothchilds 10%
The Stonecutters 90%
So you are saying what  
Bob in Newburgh : 12/31/2018 1:22 pm : link
Coaching staff could not evaluate that we could not start season with Omameh. It has appeared to me that the Wheeler for Flowers has been a wash, although Flowers had no future here so just as well.
RE: RE: We started the season with an o-line that was a disgrace, and that  
gmenatlarge : 12/31/2018 2:50 pm : link
In comment 14241444 Now Mike in MD said:
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In comment 14241439 Bob in Newburgh said:


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is on the coaching staff. Like Brady, Eli has no chance behind a line that bad.

We would have been in the playoff hunt if we had gotten off to at least a mediocre start.



How's that on the coaching staff? The old adage "You can't make chicken salad out of chicken sh%t" comes to mind. I'm not saying I know for certain the staff didn't coach these guys up, but it seems that this was a talent issue because once Brown came in (not that he is an All Pro), the OL greatly improved.


Right that is on DG, I thought there would be much more competition brought in for this putrid O-line, but they seemed satisfied that the FA would be enough- dead fucking wrong and it sunk the season before it even had a chance!
Shurmur 50%  
SHO'NUFF : 12/31/2018 6:10 pm : link
Curtis Riley 50%
Well this is interesting  
USAF NYG Fan : 12/31/2018 6:35 pm : link
Reese: 30%
Defense: 30%
Offensive Line: 20%
New Coaching Staff, New Offensive & Defensive System: 20%

As time passes, so will the team progress away from Reese's bad decisions. As time passes, so will the team fix both lines. As time passes, so will the team's learn the new systems and the HC will improve his play calling.
I could of bet my next 1000 paychecks  
Dave on the UWS : 12/31/2018 7:11 pm : link
they BW would say Jints central 100%. Him and Terps about the worst broken records I’ve ever seen. Here’s a clue guys, no matter how many times you say it, that doesn’t make it so. But keep beating that dead horse if it makes you feel better!
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