Yankees & Entertainment Sports Network on both Instagram and Twitter. Take it for what it's worth but doesn't sound like something he would do if he wasn't joining the Yankees. He doesn't even follow the Orioles..
Machado also followed a Yankees equipment manager a few days ago. The only people that follow him are Yankees players & people associated with the team. His account is @nyheat
believe that he has kept it secret for this long and then he's going to give his decision away by following the yes network on social media?
He may come to the Yankees, but I dont think this means anything. He could be screwing with people who think this actually means something.
Good point. Like when LeBron did that dumb “The Decision” special he flew into Westchester and announced it down the road in Greenwich. He clearly wanted to fuck with Knick fans.
with the Yankee players at last year's All-Star Game was top level trolling. This Instagram follow is fine, but far from his best work. It's always been a matter of when - not if - this guy would be a Yankee.
“Fwiw (maybe not much), Manny Machado has now unfollowed Yes Network on instagram. Doesn’t want to lose leverage with Yankees? Changed his mind? Or just having fun? #yanks #phils #chisox”
When you charge a $1000 for a seat you lose the right to talk about a budget. Almost of all of us Yankee fans gave Hal a pass to get under the tax after paying it for so many years.
But watching the Red Sox out spend them by 60 million with a far lower revenue base and beat them . 4-1 since 2000 that ship has sailed. It's highly unlikely there will ever be two better 26 year old players available at the same time for nothing but money. Time for the Empire to Strike Back.
I’ve come around on dishing out mega deals, I guess it’s not Â
my money and there is no hard cap. Ideally, Machado signs and we bring Harper on board after trading Stanton to the Dodgers. We are not likely to see the wave of prospects coming up like Sanchez/Judge/Torres/Andujar in the near future, maybe it’s not a bad idea to load up on 26 yo superstars.
are some excellent articles recently out there about the Percentage the Yankees spend on players as a percent of Revenue.
Its shocking. As a percent of revenue they are one of the stingiest teams is the league.
They could easily afford both major FA and 3 top relievers
its astonishing to see the analysis of just how successful a money maker they are.
Please look up the articles in RiverAvenueBlues and from there the original article. Then let's not worry too much about the contract this guy or that guy makes.
Being a GM where some missteps mean you cant spend more money on a potential winnning player does not apply to the New York Yankees.
Let's face it. We root for one of, if not THE, most successful sports team in any sport anywhere in the world
I started rooting when I my grandfather taught me baseball and the Yankees were the only team in town.
I knew they were an historical team, but I had no idea about money other than a small allowance for a mountain of chores.
Honestly, guys I have been following the financial underpinnings of the Yankees for about 2 decades now and these analysis were surprising and must reads if you are a Yankee fan
I’ve read those posts. RAB does a great job with stuff like that, even if Axisa has become a little bit gruff over the years.
The suggestion that NYY would try and stay below the lux tax level as a general MO was always absurd to me. And to be fair to ownership, I don’t think it is (or was) ever a real plan as much as it was something that it was in their best interest to say to keep agents honest and on their toes.
At the same time, I don’t begrudge the mindset that they’d like to always have a visible path to pop back below the number every so many seasons to reset the tax level.
As long as they hitch their wagon to the right horses more than they miss, it’ll work out. Hence my view that landing at least one of two 26 year old stone cold superstars should be a given. Amidst all of the months of conversation, I think the rarity of that opportunity has been lost on some — baseball players worth their salt rarely become free agents before 28-29, let alone superstars.
I started rooting when I my grandfather taught me baseball and the Yankees were the only team in town.
I knew they were an historical team, but I had no idea about money other than a small allowance for a mountain of chores.
Honestly, guys I have been following the financial underpinnings of the Yankees for about 2 decades now and these analysis were surprising and must reads if you are a Yankee fan
I've been saying this for years Bill2. After 2009,where Hal allowed Cash to spend big time to win one more for Big George who was failing, the purse strings have gotten tighter & tighter. Hal can prove us wrong this off season by spending on Manny/and/or Harper plus at least 2 quality RPs but until that happens,I'll be very skeptical. He's always been about the bottom line which was why when he made the comment he didn't see why a team couldn't win a championship & be under the cap,I got concerned.As fans last year got excited when he allowed Cash to make the Stanton deal,it was only with the codicil that Cash lose salary to balance Stanton's,which he did by first including Castro in the deal & later moving Headley to the Padres who were willing to eat the contract when the Yanks included Mitchell. Castro/Headley=Stanton I hope Hal proves this wrong going forward but until it happens,I won't believe it!
If you didn't know better you'd think the Stein Kids were setting up for the big cash out. Competitive team, super low payroll ratio, buy back the network and sell out. Or you could say that the 4 kids are in it for just the 25% of the profits and winning World Series is not that important anymore.
If that was the case he’d join the Red Sox. You know considering he was the last out in helping them win yet another World Series.
I see you are registered 12/18. Forgetting the fact that you are a dupe/troll for a minute and I’ll pretend to play along...
Since you “just registered”, I’m gonna clue you in on a site rule. It is an automatic ban if “fans” of other teams come to threads of another team with the sole purpose to incite. We all know you will simply come back under another handle (how many is this for you?), but for now, be gone.
What kind of loser does this? Good lord, absolutely pathetic.
It's one thing to make a smart, competitive offer because you have the money to do so, but in my opinion it cheapens the game and cheapens the victory if you outbid your way to a championship by spending like a drunken sailor with a limitless credit card. And besides, there are owners richer than the Steinbrenners who can also spend whatever it takes regardless of the revenues associated with their toy baseball team.
I'm all for making a competitive offer for either Harper or Machado (preferably Harper), but I would rather see them sign neither than sign both. And I really don't want Machado at all. I think the team that lands him will ultimately regret it. With Harper my only concern is durability.
If you didn't know better you'd think the Stein Kids were setting up for the big cash out. Competitive team, super low payroll ratio, buy back the network and sell out. Or you could say that the 4 kids are in it for just the 25% of the profits and winning World Series is not that important anymore.
Gotta hand it to you, you’ve always got your hands on the pulse of every teams management groups, don’t ya? You always know exactly what they’re thinking and what their motivations are. And it’s always some kind of big conspiracy/shady motives behind every move they make.
Kudos to you! Oh, and however you got screwed by whatever management team that you got screwed by in your life, keep your chin up my friend. Those dirty rotten bastards didn't deserve you anyways! You’ll bounce back someday. No sense harboring I’ll feelings your entire life. Put your big boy pants on and go show them who the REAL boss!
I was part of management teams that screwed guys like you for almost 40 years. There's an entire corporate world that you know nothing about and probably never will. Happy New Year.
I was part of management teams that screwed guys like you for almost 40 years. There's an entire corporate world that you know nothing about and probably never will. Happy New Year.
Haha! Screwed guys like me? Hahahahahahaha! I’ll save you the embarrassment of a dick measuring contest, it’s lame ass hell and I could honestly give a shit about you or what you think of me.
Nobody is buying your schtick around here and the fact that you obviously harbor incredible resentment towards management on all levels tells the entire story all by itself. Maybe in your next life, work a little harder, don’t be so completely useless at your job and show a little respect towards your superiors and you’ll stand a better chance of not being shit canned repeatedly. Blame everyone else for your failures all you want, that’s fine, but don’t act like your disdain for people in charge isn’t personal. We all know it is
Think it’s more about giving your competitors money to help beat you. All of the owners are wealthy. The Twins owner was way richer than Steinbrenner back in the day when George was buy pennants as some say. George built this empire by putting his own money into the team. For those that are not old enough,the Mets would broadcast 90 plus games a year and thenYanks would broadcast about 60. This bitching about the other owners is B.S. they all knew when they bought their teams that the Yanks were around and it didn’t stop them from still buying their team.
Ten years ago, the Yankees spent 150% the payroll Â
Of the next closest team. I get the desire to move away from that, and had they not a hard cap would have eventually followed. But with revenues what they are, and the cost of attending a game what it is, fans are reasonable to expect the team to have a top 2-3 payroll, especially when their closest rival just won the Series while spending seventy million more and eating bad money.
It's one thing to make a smart, competitive offer because you have the money to do so, but in my opinion it cheapens the game and cheapens the victory if you outbid your way to a championship by spending like a drunken sailor with a limitless credit card. And besides, there are owners richer than the Steinbrenners who can also spend whatever it takes regardless of the revenues associated with their toy baseball team.
I'm all for making a competitive offer for either Harper or Machado (preferably Harper), but I would rather see them sign neither than sign both. And I really don't want Machado at all. I think the team that lands him will ultimately regret it. With Harper my only concern is durability.
That’s my view. I don’t need/want all stars at every position. Spending the most money for a title is lame. The 2009 team was the perfect example, didn’t care at all when they won - really didn’t like the team much, probably my least favorite of the “good” yankee teams.
and to Dunedin’s point, I don’t go to games so I don’t “invest” any of my money in the team. Maybe if I was a season ticket holder I’d feel different, but watching from my couch I think it’s a lame way to go about winning.
I loathe the thought of buying a championship, and Sox relied Â
are some excellent articles recently out there about the Percentage the Yankees spend on players as a percent of Revenue.
Its shocking. As a percent of revenue they are one of the stingiest teams is the league.
They could easily afford both major FA and 3 top relievers
its astonishing to see the analysis of just how successful a money maker they are.
Please look up the articles in RiverAvenueBlues and from there the original article. Then let's not worry too much about the contract this guy or that guy makes.
Being a GM where some missteps mean you cant spend more money on a potential winnning player does not apply to the New York Yankees.
Let's face it. We root for one of, if not THE, most successful sports team in any sport anywhere in the world
This POV (the Yanks are only spending a small portion of their financial assets) is missing the forest for the trees. It was George's annual spending sprees that essentially led to the revolt by the smaller markets that emerged in the last several labor negotiations to force the larger market teams to subsidize the small markets (the luxury tax, IFA hard caps, draft pick slotting, etc.).
If the Yanks ever decided to use their full financial might, there is ZERO doubt in my mind that the next CBA would result in a hard spending cap for teams. The Yanks do NOT want this result, as it would undermine their financial might. In fact, the last thing they want it to share their gains with Tampa, Miami and other clubs that should probably not even be a MLB team.
Sometimes people need to stop trying to justify their desire for the Yanks to outspend everyone with numbers taken out of context and to recognize that for every reaction, there is an equal and opposite reaction.
In other words, George's high spending ways have already cost the Yanks the ability to spend freely in IFA, in the draft and are forced to subsidize other teams through the luxury tax and other ways. If you want the Yanks to be hard capped and eventually forced to share all their revenue like the NFL or NBA does, go ahead and keep calling for the Yanks to spend a higher percentage of their assets.
Just recognize that this position ends with the Yanks being forced to share their massive finances and subsidizing Tampa, Miami, Milwaukee, and other small markets and allowing them to compete on an equal footing.
Just because the Yanks CAN outspend everyone does not mean they SHOULD- because you have to see the BIG PICTURE.
I said fans should not over rotate on their ability to spend. imo, it's fun to play amateur GM, but being concerned about contract "mistakes" ( post Ellsbury) without understanding both their ability to spend and the evidence of hard lining value on guys like Corbin
Granted its a bounded capability. As most financial assets are bounded by market realities and stakeholder interests.
Lastly, in terms of forest for trees, you would have to see way in excess for several years before a cap that was more Yankee punitive. in particular you would have to see market price busting per position and ability contracts before there would be action.
Why?
The top teams draw the most attendance. By a huge margin. As long as teams dont see one team setting much higher FA price/value marks and some percentage within the next five teams it's not likely to turn into a problem. no one can complain about the payroll of home grown talent second contracts.
so for example, while I dont advocate it, if they moved Ellsbury and someday Stanton, that's demonstrated cost containment.
You are a fucking 12/18 looser dupe jackass.
He may come to the Yankees, but I dont think this means anything. He could be screwing with people who think this actually means something.
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You are a fucking 12/18 looser dupe jackass.
What’s a “looser”?!
He may come to the Yankees, but I dont think this means anything. He could be screwing with people who think this actually means something.
Good point. Like when LeBron did that dumb “The Decision” special he flew into Westchester and announced it down the road in Greenwich. He clearly wanted to fuck with Knick fans.
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Please sign elsewhere. Total cancer does not belong around the Yankees good young core. Harper would be a much better signing.
You are a fucking 12/18 looser dupe jackass.
What’s a “looser”?!
Yeah. Point out a spelling flaw. Still doesn’t make your take any less than, unfounded ridiculous fucking trash.
What’s a “looser”?!
Here’s to hoping he’s another Kei Igawa
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Please sign elsewhere. Total cancer does not belong around the Yankees good young core. Harper would be a much better signing.
You are a fucking 12/18 looser dupe jackass.
What’s a “looser”?!
Yeah. Point out a spelling flaw. Still doesn’t make your take any less than, unfounded ridiculous fucking trash.
Well he is unarguably dirty. And he did say he wasn’t going to run everything put, which sounds lazy. I don’t know about cry baby.
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Please sign elsewhere. Total cancer does not belong around the Yankees good young core. Harper would be a much better signing.
You are a fucking 12/18 looser dupe jackass.
What’s a “looser”?!
Yeah. Point out a spelling flaw. Still doesn’t make your take any less than, unfounded ridiculous fucking trash.
Well he is unarguably dirty. And he did say he wasn’t going to run everything put, which sounds lazy. I don’t know about cry baby.
Thank you, at least someone pays attention.
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Please sign elsewhere. Total cancer does not belong around the Yankees good young core. Harper would be a much better signing.
You are a fucking 12/18 looser dupe jackass.
What’s a “looser”?!
Loser is a 12/18 troll like you.
Like OMG
Kind of a bit much...I’d prefer Harper too but man that’s harsh.
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Please sign elsewhere. Total cancer does not belong around the Yankees good young core. Harper would be a much better signing.
You are a fucking 12/18 looser dupe jackass.
What’s a “looser”?!
Yeah. Point out a spelling flaw. Still doesn’t make your take any less than, unfounded ridiculous fucking trash.
Well he is unarguably dirty. And he did say he wasn’t going to run everything put, which sounds lazy. I don’t know about cry baby.
Thank you, at least someone pays attention.
Way to let someone else fight your battles. Dumb ass fucking troll.
Please, why don’t you elaborate more on your original post like I know you can’t.
Trash.
I can see not wanting to spend 300 million on a free agent, but not wanting him because of his attitude is strange.
He's an excellent player. He would make the Yankees better.
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Well he is unarguably dirty. And he did say he wasn’t going to run everything put, which sounds lazy. I don’t know about cry baby.
Thank you, at least someone pays attention.
Good one - another Sox fan agrees with your trolling perspective...
But watching the Red Sox out spend them by 60 million with a far lower revenue base and beat them . 4-1 since 2000 that ship has sailed. It's highly unlikely there will ever be two better 26 year old players available at the same time for nothing but money. Time for the Empire to Strike Back.
Its shocking. As a percent of revenue they are one of the stingiest teams is the league.
They could easily afford both major FA and 3 top relievers
its astonishing to see the analysis of just how successful a money maker they are.
Please look up the articles in RiverAvenueBlues and from there the original article. Then let's not worry too much about the contract this guy or that guy makes.
Being a GM where some missteps mean you cant spend more money on a potential winnning player does not apply to the New York Yankees.
Let's face it. We root for one of, if not THE, most successful sports team in any sport anywhere in the world
I knew they were an historical team, but I had no idea about money other than a small allowance for a mountain of chores.
Honestly, guys I have been following the financial underpinnings of the Yankees for about 2 decades now and these analysis were surprising and must reads if you are a Yankee fan
The suggestion that NYY would try and stay below the lux tax level as a general MO was always absurd to me. And to be fair to ownership, I don’t think it is (or was) ever a real plan as much as it was something that it was in their best interest to say to keep agents honest and on their toes.
At the same time, I don’t begrudge the mindset that they’d like to always have a visible path to pop back below the number every so many seasons to reset the tax level.
As long as they hitch their wagon to the right horses more than they miss, it’ll work out. Hence my view that landing at least one of two 26 year old stone cold superstars should be a given. Amidst all of the months of conversation, I think the rarity of that opportunity has been lost on some — baseball players worth their salt rarely become free agents before 28-29, let alone superstars.
If that was the case he’d join the Red Sox. You know considering he was the last out in helping them win yet another World Series.
I knew they were an historical team, but I had no idea about money other than a small allowance for a mountain of chores.
Honestly, guys I have been following the financial underpinnings of the Yankees for about 2 decades now and these analysis were surprising and must reads if you are a Yankee fan
I've been saying this for years Bill2. After 2009,where Hal allowed Cash to spend big time to win one more for Big George who was failing, the purse strings have gotten tighter & tighter. Hal can prove us wrong this off season by spending on Manny/and/or Harper plus at least 2 quality RPs but until that happens,I'll be very skeptical. He's always been about the bottom line which was why when he made the comment he didn't see why a team couldn't win a championship & be under the cap,I got concerned.As fans last year got excited when he allowed Cash to make the Stanton deal,it was only with the codicil that Cash lose salary to balance Stanton's,which he did by first including Castro in the deal & later moving Headley to the Padres who were willing to eat the contract when the Yanks included Mitchell. Castro/Headley=Stanton I hope Hal proves this wrong going forward but until it happens,I won't believe it!
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If that was the case he’d join the Red Sox. You know considering he was the last out in helping them win yet another World Series.
I see you are registered 12/18. Forgetting the fact that you are a dupe/troll for a minute and I’ll pretend to play along...
Since you “just registered”, I’m gonna clue you in on a site rule. It is an automatic ban if “fans” of other teams come to threads of another team with the sole purpose to incite. We all know you will simply come back under another handle (how many is this for you?), but for now, be gone.
What kind of loser does this? Good lord, absolutely pathetic.
I'm all for making a competitive offer for either Harper or Machado (preferably Harper), but I would rather see them sign neither than sign both. And I really don't want Machado at all. I think the team that lands him will ultimately regret it. With Harper my only concern is durability.
Gotta hand it to you, you’ve always got your hands on the pulse of every teams management groups, don’t ya? You always know exactly what they’re thinking and what their motivations are. And it’s always some kind of big conspiracy/shady motives behind every move they make.
Kudos to you! Oh, and however you got screwed by whatever management team that you got screwed by in your life, keep your chin up my friend. Those dirty rotten bastards didn't deserve you anyways! You’ll bounce back someday. No sense harboring I’ll feelings your entire life. Put your big boy pants on and go show them who the REAL boss!
Still hoping they sign Manny and stop the nickel and diming. Get Britton and Robertson back and say come get me!
I won't hold my breath, quite yet.
Haha! Screwed guys like me? Hahahahahahaha! I’ll save you the embarrassment of a dick measuring contest, it’s lame ass hell and I could honestly give a shit about you or what you think of me.
Nobody is buying your schtick around here and the fact that you obviously harbor incredible resentment towards management on all levels tells the entire story all by itself. Maybe in your next life, work a little harder, don’t be so completely useless at your job and show a little respect towards your superiors and you’ll stand a better chance of not being shit canned repeatedly. Blame everyone else for your failures all you want, that’s fine, but don’t act like your disdain for people in charge isn’t personal. We all know it is
I'm all for making a competitive offer for either Harper or Machado (preferably Harper), but I would rather see them sign neither than sign both. And I really don't want Machado at all. I think the team that lands him will ultimately regret it. With Harper my only concern is durability.
That’s my view. I don’t need/want all stars at every position. Spending the most money for a title is lame. The 2009 team was the perfect example, didn’t care at all when they won - really didn’t like the team much, probably my least favorite of the “good” yankee teams.
It’s just that Astros and Sox have done so well that if we have to flex a little more financial muscle to get over the himp, so be it.
Rooting for Judge, Sanchez, Torres ( ok not so organizational), Severino, Andujar has been just about my favorite time as a Yankee fan.
But now I'd like to see that core get over the top
Its shocking. As a percent of revenue they are one of the stingiest teams is the league.
They could easily afford both major FA and 3 top relievers
its astonishing to see the analysis of just how successful a money maker they are.
Please look up the articles in RiverAvenueBlues and from there the original article. Then let's not worry too much about the contract this guy or that guy makes.
Being a GM where some missteps mean you cant spend more money on a potential winnning player does not apply to the New York Yankees.
Let's face it. We root for one of, if not THE, most successful sports team in any sport anywhere in the world
This POV (the Yanks are only spending a small portion of their financial assets) is missing the forest for the trees. It was George's annual spending sprees that essentially led to the revolt by the smaller markets that emerged in the last several labor negotiations to force the larger market teams to subsidize the small markets (the luxury tax, IFA hard caps, draft pick slotting, etc.).
If the Yanks ever decided to use their full financial might, there is ZERO doubt in my mind that the next CBA would result in a hard spending cap for teams. The Yanks do NOT want this result, as it would undermine their financial might. In fact, the last thing they want it to share their gains with Tampa, Miami and other clubs that should probably not even be a MLB team.
Sometimes people need to stop trying to justify their desire for the Yanks to outspend everyone with numbers taken out of context and to recognize that for every reaction, there is an equal and opposite reaction.
In other words, George's high spending ways have already cost the Yanks the ability to spend freely in IFA, in the draft and are forced to subsidize other teams through the luxury tax and other ways. If you want the Yanks to be hard capped and eventually forced to share all their revenue like the NFL or NBA does, go ahead and keep calling for the Yanks to spend a higher percentage of their assets.
Just recognize that this position ends with the Yanks being forced to share their massive finances and subsidizing Tampa, Miami, Milwaukee, and other small markets and allowing them to compete on an equal footing.
Just because the Yanks CAN outspend everyone does not mean they SHOULD- because you have to see the BIG PICTURE.
Granted its a bounded capability. As most financial assets are bounded by market realities and stakeholder interests.
Lastly, in terms of forest for trees, you would have to see way in excess for several years before a cap that was more Yankee punitive. in particular you would have to see market price busting per position and ability contracts before there would be action.
Why?
The top teams draw the most attendance. By a huge margin. As long as teams dont see one team setting much higher FA price/value marks and some percentage within the next five teams it's not likely to turn into a problem. no one can complain about the payroll of home grown talent second contracts.
so for example, while I dont advocate it, if they moved Ellsbury and someday Stanton, that's demonstrated cost containment.
it's a deep forest