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Florio: 49ers interested in trading for Odell

CromartiesKid21 : 1/1/2019 4:11 pm
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If New York Giants receiver Odell Beckham Jr. is put on the trading block, the San Francisco 49ers will be interested in a potential deal, according to Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk.

The 49ers reportedly considered a deal for Beckham last offseason and remain interested heading into 2019.

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#2 overall this year  
GoDeep13 : 1/1/2019 5:39 pm : link
Plus a 1st in 2020 and Ill drive him to San Francisco myself.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Not knocking the post  
Hsilwek92 : 1/1/2019 5:41 pm : link
In comment 14243067 GiantGrit said:
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But how is this even a story? Have the Giants leaked info that they are interested in moving Beckham? Pretty sure any team would be interested in trading for him, if he were available. I could see it being a story IF San Fran came out and said they are looking to trade for Beckham.



I would take this seriously.



What exactly should I take seriously?

1) The giants are trading Beckham
2) 49ers are going to make an offer
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3) 49ers will be interested if Beckham becomes available



Can't speak for what they'll do. 49ers have had strong interest in the past. If they're involved, i take the trade talks seriously.


And yet, theres nothing coming out from the Giants about this.

Youre doing nothing but speculating and acting like you have some kind of inside knowledge. Just stop.
Some unrealistic expectations here  
Go Terps : 1/1/2019 5:41 pm : link
No one is trading two first rounders to pay a WR $19M a year. More realistic is something like Mullens and a second rounder, given they are picking so high.

I'd be shocked if San Francisco would trade its first rounder for him.
I  
AcidTest : 1/1/2019 5:41 pm : link
don't think it will happen (who really does?), but a $16M cap hit this year wouldn't be the reason it didn't. Absorbing that would certainly limit what the Giants could do in FA, but it isn't so great that it would preclude a trade if everything else could be worked out.

I think it's a mistake to trade him unless the return is enormous.
Niners will trade for Antonio Brown  
Matt in SGS : 1/1/2019 5:41 pm : link
they are floating this to keep the Steelers price down, at least that's my take. I don't think Odell is going anywhere.
Wouldn't do it,  
darren in pdx : 1/1/2019 5:42 pm : link
OBJ and Barkley are a great combo. Only way I'd start thinking about it is their 1st and 2nd round this year plus their 1st round next year. If Armani Cooper can get a first, a sure-fire HOF talent should get a lot more in return.
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Danny Kanell : 1/1/2019 5:42 pm : link
His contract adds a lot of value to the team who would acquire him in a trade. Hes essentially controlled for 4 years with the entire bonus cap hit consumed by the Giants.

This gives the Giants even more leverage to ask for (and get) the moon.
Silly Season  
morrison40 : 1/1/2019 5:43 pm : link
has officially begun,24x7 click bait festival.
Kyle Shanahan  
Sammo85 : 1/1/2019 5:43 pm : link
makes mediocre talent look good. Mullens is a third string QB.
RE: Some unrealistic expectations here  
JCin332 : 1/1/2019 5:44 pm : link
In comment 14243150 Go Terps said:
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No one is trading two first rounders to pay a WR $19M a year. More realistic is something like Mullens and a second rounder, given they are picking so high.

I'd be shocked if San Francisco would trade its first rounder for him.


You continue to be comedic gold...Mullens and a 2nd Lmfao...
RE: I think  
AcidTest : 1/1/2019 5:44 pm : link
In comment 14243099 Sammo85 said:
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Beckhams camp is pushing these trade things. They got the big contract and avoid the threat of franchise tagging. Now comes effort to get him traded to where he wants to go and get a reworked deal in another couple years.

I honestly dont think he wants to be here going forward with Eli or any QB uncertainty. I also dont think Shurmur and him are on the same page.


Quite possibly. The Giants have a lot of QB uncertainty going forward, with or without Eli. The 49ers have Garappolo. SF is also warmer.
RE: Niners will trade for Antonio Brown  
Go Terps : 1/1/2019 5:44 pm : link
In comment 14243152 Matt in SGS said:
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they are floating this to keep the Steelers price down, at least that's my take. I don't think Odell is going anywhere.


This is probably the truth.
Second overall pick  
joeinpa : 1/1/2019 5:47 pm : link
=Josh Allen, and 6th pick?

Sounds pretty good
RE: .  
Big Blue '56 : 1/1/2019 5:51 pm : link
In comment 14243056 Danny Kanell said:
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Swap firsts this year. Get their 2nd rd pick and 2020 first.

Build the lines with the 2nd overall and 2 premium 2nd round picks this year.

Get the QB in 2020.

Boom.


Disagree. Fuck em. They want him? We get their first period. No swap. we keep our first as well. Next year their 1st
What are the odds of drafting someone with skill equal to Beckham's  
baadbill : 1/1/2019 5:52 pm : link
with the 2nd pick of the draft?

I'd say the odds are overwhelmingly against. The Giants would be giving up a future HOF player for what will likely be a non-HOFer.

How in the world does that make sense?
CLICK BAIT  
Sy'56 : 1/1/2019 5:54 pm : link
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He has been having injury problems the last couple seasons  
Giant John : 1/1/2019 5:56 pm : link
Which leads me to feel getting through a season will be difficult for him as he gets older. Id consider a first and third and money.
RE: RE: Some unrealistic expectations here  
Ssanders9816 : 1/1/2019 5:56 pm : link
In comment 14243160 JCin332 said:
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No one is trading two first rounders to pay a WR $19M a year. More realistic is something like Mullens and a second rounder, given they are picking so high.

I'd be shocked if San Francisco would trade its first rounder for him.



You continue to be comedic gold...Mullens and a 2nd Lmfao...


HAHAHAAH seriously!!! Mullens and a 2nd LOL. Giants would laugh and hang up.
RE: What are the odds of drafting someone with skill equal to Beckham's  
jnoble : 1/1/2019 5:56 pm : link
In comment 14243174 baadbill said:
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with the 2nd pick of the draft?

I'd say the odds are overwhelmingly against. The Giants would be giving up a future HOF player for what will likely be a non-HOFer.

How in the world does that make sense?


I don't get the obsession around here with trading away a proven talent like Odell for an unknown. I don't care if we get a high pick for him, you're voluntarily losing the best WR the team ever had!
RE: I would trade him even though he is a once in a decade talent.  
EricJ : 1/1/2019 5:57 pm : link
In comment 14243143 SterlingArcher said:
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The Giants have lots of holes to fill, if they offered this years 1st and 2nd and next years 1st and 3rd I would make the deal.


He is not even a once in a decade talent. Both AB and Hopkins are better than Odell. This does not take anything away from OBJ but I just laugh sometimes when people make comments like he is by far the best WR that has entered the league in a long time.

An unreal amount of talent offset by the fact that he spent too many games in the ice tub over the past two years.
RE: RE: I would trade him even though he is a once in a decade talent.  
bw in dc : 1/1/2019 6:02 pm : link
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He is not even a once in a decade talent. Both AB and Hopkins are better than Odell. This does not take anything away from OBJ but I just laugh sometimes when people make comments like he is by far the best WR that has entered the league in a long time.

An unreal amount of talent offset by the fact that he spent too many games in the ice tub over the past two years.


Athletically/physically - OBJ is a rare breed. You have to concede that.

But I agree there are definitely better WRs than him right now. And AB and Hopkins are definitely two of them. Hopkins is out of his mind good.
I will take  
spike : 1/1/2019 6:04 pm : link
Their 1st rounder , 2nd rounder and next years first rounder
Niners can simply  
spike : 1/1/2019 6:04 pm : link
Trade for Antonio brown
so then Brown's talent  
bc4life : 1/1/2019 6:06 pm : link
would be offset due to refusuing to attend practice?

BTW: Last injury caused by intentional leg whip/kick.
RE: RE: RE: I would trade him even though he is a once in a decade talent.  
jcn56 : 1/1/2019 6:07 pm : link
In comment 14243187 bw in dc said:
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He is not even a once in a decade talent. Both AB and Hopkins are better than Odell. This does not take anything away from OBJ but I just laugh sometimes when people make comments like he is by far the best WR that has entered the league in a long time.

An unreal amount of talent offset by the fact that he spent too many games in the ice tub over the past two years.



Athletically/physically - OBJ is a rare breed. You have to concede that.

But I agree there are definitely better WRs than him right now. And AB and Hopkins are definitely two of them. Hopkins is out of his mind good.


Have a look at Hopkins' stats compared to OBJ's, then see if you guys still agree with that statement.

Right now, the major knock on OBJ has been injuries. He's been part of a massively dysfunctional offense throughout his career, and he's got only 3 less touchdowns than Hopkins despite having played in only 59 games to Hopkins 95.
Mullens  
TommyWiseau : 1/1/2019 6:08 pm : link
Swap of firsts, 2nd round pick this year, first next year for OBJ, 6th pick and a 5th this year
RE: RE: RE: I would trade him even though he is a once in a decade talent.  
speedywheels : 1/1/2019 6:09 pm : link
In comment 14243187 bw in dc said:
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He is not even a once in a decade talent. Both AB and Hopkins are better than Odell. This does not take anything away from OBJ but I just laugh sometimes when people make comments like he is by far the best WR that has entered the league in a long time.

An unreal amount of talent offset by the fact that he spent too many games in the ice tub over the past two years.



Athletically/physically - OBJ is a rare breed. You have to concede that.

But I agree there are definitely better WRs than him right now. And AB and Hopkins are definitely two of them. Hopkins is out of his mind good.


Given the difference in their ages, OBJ is significantly more desirable.
jcn...  
bw in dc : 1/1/2019 6:09 pm : link
With Hopkins, I'm looking at his career. The majority of his career has been with dish rag QBs. And despite that he's still been uber-productive.
More desirable than AB, i meant  
speedywheels : 1/1/2019 6:10 pm : link
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RE: why the fuck is everybody in a rush  
OBJRoyal : 1/1/2019 6:12 pm : link
In comment 14243061 SHO'NUFF said:
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to trade OBJ?


Cant figure it out myself...
RE: RE: 2nd pick alone not enough  
BrianLeonard23 : 1/1/2019 6:13 pm : link
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what player is going to give what Beckham does - potential HOF wr, teams have to game plan for him. I would want more than # 2 pick.



You "hope" to get a player like Beckham with the #2 pick. I think we did this year. Someone less lazy than me can list the recent #2 picks and I don't think you would trade for many of them.


2017 - Mitch Trubisky QB
2016 - Carson Wentz QB
2015 - Marcus Mariota QB
2014 - Greg Robinson OT
2013 - Luke Joeckel OT
2012 - Robert Griffin QB
2011 - Von Miller LB
2010 - Ndamukong Suh DT
2009 - Jason Smith OT
2008 - Chris Long DE

People want to trade Odell and get Mullens  
ajr2456 : 1/1/2019 6:13 pm : link
When we can just get a QB with our pick.

Incredible.
Starting point for me is this year and next years 1st  
BrianLeonard23 : 1/1/2019 6:15 pm : link
That might get me to the table and then Im asking for additional picks.

I dont want to trade him nor do I think we will, but Im willing to do whatever it takes to move this rebuild along and get back to respectability.
RE: What are the odds of drafting someone with skill equal to Beckham's  
FStubbs : 1/1/2019 6:19 pm : link
In comment 14243174 baadbill said:
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with the 2nd pick of the draft?

I'd say the odds are overwhelmingly against. The Giants would be giving up a future HOF player for what will likely be a non-HOFer.

How in the world does that make sense?


And yet the Giants managed to exceed that feat just this last year!

If the 49ers offer the #2 overall pick for Beckham, you take it and run as fast as you can. Figure out the cap stuff later.
Mullens is a 6'1" QB without a great arm...  
GFAN52 : 1/1/2019 6:19 pm : link
why on earth would his name even be included in any fantasy trade?
Bet this is Beckhams people putting this out there.  
Default : 1/1/2019 6:20 pm : link
He wants off this sinking ship.
RE: RE: RE: 2nd pick alone not enough  
FStubbs : 1/1/2019 6:21 pm : link
In comment 14243215 BrianLeonard23 said:
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what player is going to give what Beckham does - potential HOF wr, teams have to game plan for him. I would want more than # 2 pick.



You "hope" to get a player like Beckham with the #2 pick. I think we did this year. Someone less lazy than me can list the recent #2 picks and I don't think you would trade for many of them.



2017 - Mitch Trubisky QB
2016 - Carson Wentz QB
2015 - Marcus Mariota QB
2014 - Greg Robinson OT
2013 - Luke Joeckel OT
2012 - Robert Griffin QB
2011 - Von Miller LB
2010 - Ndamukong Suh DT
2009 - Jason Smith OT
2008 - Chris Long DE


Let me spell it out.

2018 - Saquon Barkley RB

Looks like you can get a OBJ-level talent or better with the #2 overall pick.
RE: People want to trade Odell and get Mullens  
Ssanders9816 : 1/1/2019 6:22 pm : link
In comment 14243216 ajr2456 said:
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When we can just get a QB with our pick.

Incredible.


Do NOT mistake Terps for people, hes just one idiot.
RE: RE: RE: RE: 2nd pick alone not enough  
Emil : 1/1/2019 6:31 pm : link
In comment 14243228 FStubbs said:
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what player is going to give what Beckham does - potential HOF wr, teams have to game plan for him. I would want more than # 2 pick.



You "hope" to get a player like Beckham with the #2 pick. I think we did this year. Someone less lazy than me can list the recent #2 picks and I don't think you would trade for many of them.



2017 - Mitch Trubisky QB
2016 - Carson Wentz QB
2015 - Marcus Mariota QB
2014 - Greg Robinson OT
2013 - Luke Joeckel OT
2012 - Robert Griffin QB
2011 - Von Miller LB
2010 - Ndamukong Suh DT
2009 - Jason Smith OT
2008 - Chris Long DE




Let me spell it out.

2018 - Saquon Barkley RB

Looks like you can get a OBJ-level talent or better with the #2 overall pick.


Like Saquon, OBJ is a once in a decade talent. Your comparison lacks sufficient data. The overall point is you dont trade proven commodities who are under contract in their prime years for lottery tickets, unless you get a Herschel Walker type deal.
A new offseason and  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 1/1/2019 6:33 pm : link
The same old trade rumors. Beat writers have nothing else to do but take trade speculation.

Who would have thought?
How many drafts  
Mike in Boston : 1/1/2019 6:36 pm : link
Contain any player as good as OBJ (or Barkley for that matter). Nevermind the likelihood that you find that player with a single pick, even the #2. Trading him for any amount of draft picks likely to be on offer will not be in our interest. If they offer three full drafts for him, however, I'd take it.

No one would trade the #2 pick in the draft for Beckham  
Go Terps : 1/1/2019 6:37 pm : link
That's 5 years of cost control for what should be an elite player. Think about the players drafted in that area last year. You think the Jets trade Darnold, Denver trades us Chubb, or Indy trades us Nelson for Beckham straight up? They'd laugh us off the phone.

Draft picks aren't just about adding talent. They're about not having to pay a premium for that talent for years.

Think about our first round pick (6th overall). What would we want back for that in trade? If we traded it for the highest paid WR in the league, who hasn't played a full season in a couple years, BBI would flip.
One of the best players in the league  
B in ALB : 1/1/2019 6:37 pm : link
Traded for Nick Mullens and a pick?

Shirley...you can't be serious.
RE: A new offseason and  
Eman11 : 1/1/2019 6:49 pm : link
In comment 14243245 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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The same old trade rumors. Beat writers have nothing else to do but take trade speculation.

Who would have thought?


I'm sure the blowhard Boomer will be pouring gas on this speculation all off season long. Hell he's already started with his yearly rant against him and saying they need to trade him. This will only add to his obnoxiousness.
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christian : 1/1/2019 6:50 pm : link
If the Giants absorbed the accelerated guaranteed money, this would leave the team acquiring him a very reasonable, controlled contract.

If Amari Cooper, and the right to pay him nets a late first round pick. Beckham certainly would exceed a 2nd round pick.

Maybe not the no. 2 overall, but multiple picks including a future 1st.
Guys, Sy nailed it  
Emil : 1/1/2019 6:50 pm : link
This is click bait. Notice the strategic use of the word if. Yes, Im sure San Francisco would be interested, if he was on the block. Sports media OBJ generates clicks wherever his name is mentioned.

Here is what matters.

1. If they trade him in time for the 2019 draft, hes going to incur a 16 mil cap hit. Thats literally more money than it takes to sign an entire draft class unavailable to the franchise. Heck, its arguably two draft classes. Plus youve lost the immense impact of OBJs talent.

2. Im sure the number two overall pick would interest the Giants, but it would cost them everything outlined in point one.

3. Trading him after June 1 would not be desireable because you have no idea where the 49ers will pick in 2020. Just ask the Raiders about that pick they got from the Bears for the best pass rusher in the NFL. Is OBJ worth a couple of picks in the 20s? One in 2020 and one in 2021. Nope, hes worth more.

4. I love OBJ, just about everyone here knows that. Ive always enjoyed following WRs in the NFL and hes the best Ive seen since Rice. Yeah, I think some of you guys are way too sensitive and are easily manipulated by clickbait stories. BUT ALL THAT SAID...this is a business and if there is a scenario where trading OBJ makes the NY Football Giants better sooner rather than later, then you do it. What that looks like is pretty much what the team said last offseason. Two first round picks, plus more. That probably means a player or two as well.

Do I think the Giants could trade OBJ? Yeah, they could. But only if they are blown away, if it makes the team overall better at the end of it, and if it doesnt cost them more than it takes to sign an entire draft class (or two).

So yeah it COULD happen. But probably not until 2020 at the earliest.
This is interesting...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/1/2019 6:51 pm : link
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jcn...
bw in dc : 6:09 pm : link : reply
With Hopkins, I'm looking at his career. The majority of his career has been with dish rag QBs. And despite that he's still been uber-productive.


Funny how you treat Eli like a dish-rag QB until it doesn't fit the narrative of the day.
RE: One of the best players in the league  
Emil : 1/1/2019 6:51 pm : link
In comment 14243254 B in ALB said:
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Traded for Nick Mullens and a pick?

Shirley...you can't be serious.


And dont call me Shirley😁
RE: RE: A new offseason and  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 1/1/2019 6:51 pm : link
In comment 14243278 Eman11 said:
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The same old trade rumors. Beat writers have nothing else to do but take trade speculation.

Who would have thought?



I'm sure the blowhard Boomer will be pouring gas on this speculation all off season long. Hell he's already started with his yearly rant against him and saying they need to trade him. This will only add to his obnoxiousness.


He was already doing it yesterday, saying Cleveland should trade for him.
RE: One of the best players in the league  
GFAN52 : 1/1/2019 6:52 pm : link
In comment 14243254 B in ALB said:
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Traded for Nick Mullens and a pick?

Shirley...you can't be serious.


Nick Mullens....lol
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