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M.S. : 1/1/2019 8:11 pm
Check out this early 60s song by Joan Baez ("Stewball") cue at :28 second mark. Play it for, say, 20 seconds...

...and then switch over to John Lennon's Happy Christmas (War is Over) song from 1971. Cue it up at around the :10 second mark and play it for 15 or 20 second.

Sure sounds like the same song to me!

"Stewball"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEM5CXMx7XU

Happy Christmass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8Vfp48laS8

Are you fucking high?  
mattlawson : 1/1/2019 8:25 pm : link
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Nothing new under the sun.  
madgiantscow009 : 1/1/2019 8:25 pm : link
I think many song writers just take a song they like and rearrange it or parts of it--speed it up, slow it down, etc...
Yes, nothing to see here  
Searcher : 1/1/2019 8:45 pm : link
This has been known for a long time. Stewball is an old traditional English folk song that doesn't have a copyright. Here is a link to the story of the creation of "Happy Xmas" "

https://www.smoothradio.com/features/the-story-of/john-lennon-happy-xmas-war-is-over-lyrics-meaning/

There are many songs in the history of rock n roll that use melodies from earlier non copyrighted songs -

Whiter Shade of Pale
American Tune
House of the Rising Sun
Girl From the North Country
Scarborough Fair

RE: Yes, nothing to see here  
M.S. : 1/1/2019 9:17 pm : link
In comment 14243447 Searcher said:
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This has been known for a long time. Stewball is an old traditional English folk song that doesn't have a copyright. Here is a link to the story of the creation of "Happy Xmas" "

https://www.smoothradio.com/features/the-story-of/john-lennon-happy-xmas-war-is-over-lyrics-meaning/

There are many songs in the history of rock n roll that use melodies from earlier non copyrighted songs -

Whiter Shade of Pale
American Tune
House of the Rising Sun
Girl From the North Country
Scarborough Fair


Searcher -- I've been searching for the answer and you seem to be the one with the answer! Thanks.
George Harrison lost a lawsuit in the 70s...  
jnoble : 1/1/2019 9:47 pm : link
..for My Sweet Lord sounding too much like He's So Fine
Billy Joel says  
section125 : 1/1/2019 10:47 pm : link
he purposely takes ideas from other writers, puts his own twist on a song.
Yeah, that's how it's done  
aquidneck : 1/2/2019 12:16 am : link
Songwriters steal (er, borrow) from traditional sources as well as from each other all the time.

Some here might remember me, and that my brother is a songwriter.

But are there any early Dylan experts here?

Here's a 13-minute song my brother wrote in 1975 and recorded in 1998. It's based on a form and a melody very much like what Dylan used a few years earlier. In fact, some people might say he JP stole it.

Can you name the original?

Crossroads Where I Stand - ( New Window )
"Chimes of Freedom" w/ lyrical allusions from "One Too Many Mornings"  
Waldo Jeffers : 1/2/2019 9:18 am : link
in the first verse. Can't listen to the whole thing right now but I will.

Sounds very nice - you have a right to be proud.

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aquidneck : 1/2/2019 2:36 pm : link
In comment 14243859 Waldo Jeffers said:
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in the first verse. Can't listen to the whole thing right now but I will.

Sounds very nice - you have a right to be proud.


Thanks for the guess, but that's not it. JP's "Crossroads" does pick up after the first verse or two though.

I'll post the original later this evening. Pretty sure you'll be able to spot the match.
RE: Chimes of Freedom  
aquidneck : 1/2/2019 2:39 pm : link
Weird. I left the quotation marks in the subject line and the software couldn't see what was typed there..
Desolation Row?  
JohnG in Albany : 1/2/2019 2:49 pm : link
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That was a guess for aquidneck  
JohnG in Albany : 1/2/2019 2:51 pm : link
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RE: That was a guess for aquidneck  
aquidneck : 1/2/2019 8:30 pm : link
In comment 14244622 JohnG in Albany said:
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Thanks for playing, John. Thanks to anybody that thought about it for a second.


Here's the original. Hear the similarity? - ( New Window )
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