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Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/2/2019 9:48 am
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Gotta get in on the ground floor of Lamar Jackson  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/2/2019 12:04 pm : link
While people are still doubtful, lol
Pete  
bc4life : 1/2/2019 12:06 pm : link
don't know, whole line looked so bad - but Shurmur has said the same thing
RE: I wish Hanlon would shut his mouth about  
ZogZerg : 1/2/2019 12:07 pm : link
In comment 14244190 FranknWeezer said:
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and let the guys ask the questions we deserve to have answered. Should've put Gettleman up for a bye week presser. Other teams have their GM's answer questions during the year. Not their fault they've had to wait a whole season to ask him anything.



Agree, I guess he didn't want to be late for lunch.
RE: The only reason  
blueblood : 1/2/2019 12:08 pm : link
In comment 14244171 SaqBar999 said:
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He is non-committal to Eli, is because he doesn't want to tip off what he's going to do with the #6 overall pick. Duh.

C'mon guys, think.


Exactly..
RE: Gotta get in on the ground floor of Lamar Jackson  
EricJ : 1/2/2019 12:09 pm : link
In comment 14244196 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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While people are still doubtful, lol


ahh...so you think the Ravens would trade Jackson because people "stupid fans" have doubt? The guy won three games without throwing a TD pass. Once he figures out the offense and how to play in an NFL system, he is going to be as dangerous as Watson.
RE: Was Halapio  
SGMen : 1/2/2019 12:09 pm : link
In comment 14244188 Pete in MD said:
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playing that well before he got hurt? I didn't notice but DG thinks so.
His unknown potential "upside" is key to our future because IMHO, we definitely need a new, upgrade, OC, RG and RT. The only way this changes is if we sign Hilapion, Brown and Wheeler are all under contract AND we KNOW (based on practice, gamefilm, etc.,) that they can improve enough to be effective.

I'm just seeing a lot of question marks due to the number of holes we have???
RE: Dave is  
Carson53 : 1/2/2019 12:10 pm : link
In comment 14244191 Phil in LA said:
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far more entertaining than Jerry was when saying absolutely nothing.
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That's not saying much, LOL.
Mara not speaking?  
Sean : 1/2/2019 12:10 pm : link
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Really disappointing about the feed, especially when the Q&A  
Ivan15 : 1/2/2019 12:12 pm : link
was actually better quality than is usual. Typically, you need the transcript to understand the questions. This time, the transcript is needed to fill in the gaps.
RE: RE: Gotta get in on the ground floor of Lamar Jackson  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/2/2019 12:12 pm : link
In comment 14244214 EricJ said:
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While people are still doubtful, lol



ahh...so you think the Ravens would trade Jackson because people "stupid fans" have doubt? The guy won three games without throwing a TD pass. Once he figures out the offense and how to play in an NFL system, he is going to be as dangerous as Watson.


I love him. I want him to be great. Hated how he was treated in the draft.
what did he say about Vernon and Jenkins?  
Andy in Boston : 1/2/2019 12:12 pm : link
my live feed was cut off
RE: Was Halapio  
Strahan91 : 1/2/2019 12:13 pm : link
In comment 14244188 Pete in MD said:
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playing that well before he got hurt? I didn't notice but DG thinks so.

He graded out very well in pass blocking according to PFF. Best on the line at that point before he got hurt and had he done it over a full season would've been their #3 pass blocking C in the league. Graded him about average to below average as a run blocker.
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aimrocky : 1/2/2019 12:14 pm : link
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Dave Gettleman says Eli Manning came in to him on Monday and says he wanted to talk.

"Wasn't like he was called to the principal's office. He came to see me."

Based on Archie's comments earlier this week, I wonder if Eli went in and gave his list of demands for next season.
could  
Steve in Greenwich : 1/2/2019 12:14 pm : link
mean absolutely nothing, but when you put two and two together of Archie's statement on Eli "But if he comes back, the Giants have got to win. They can't go through another season like this." and the fact that Gettleman said Eli asked for this meeting and his need to be bluntly honest you have to imagine Eli requested a meeting with Gettleman to truly gauge where the feeling in the room is in regards to the Giants chances next year. What was said, no one knows, but definitely would feel like this was a feeling out meeting on Manning's behalf as to whether or not he wants to go at it for another year with this team.
I would like to know what his answer was on OV and JJ question  
Rick in Dallas : 1/2/2019 12:16 pm : link
Feed went down st that time.
Sounds like Eli came in Monday to talk to DG. Also sounds like it was a very honest and direct conversation.
RE: Gotta get in on the ground floor of Lamar Jackson  
Pete in MD : 1/2/2019 12:20 pm : link
In comment 14244196 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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While people are still doubtful, lol

I can't stand the Ravens but I think it's because of their fan-base. When the team is good, everyone is die-hard and trash-talking like idiots (even to me, whose team has zero rivalry with them.) When the team is mediocre or bad, it's like they don't exist. I understand why the Colts left. I know many people who suddenly became Eagles' fans last year and claimed to have "always rooted for the Eagles when Baltimore had no team." And there's also the unquestioned support of Ray Lewis. Some teams have asshole fans, these guys are just pathetic.
RE: Mara not speaking?  
jeff57 : 1/2/2019 12:21 pm : link
In comment 14244221 Sean said:
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That would be a good thing. Let him count his money and stay out of personnel decisions.
I cant pretend to know the fanbase  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/2/2019 12:21 pm : link
But i'll just say there are some mouthbreathers with every team.
RE: RE: Gotta get in on the ground floor of Lamar Jackson  
Jay on the Island : 1/2/2019 12:21 pm : link
In comment 14244214 EricJ said:
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While people are still doubtful, lol



ahh...so you think the Ravens would trade Jackson because people "stupid fans" have doubt? The guy won three games without throwing a TD pass. Once he figures out the offense and how to play in an NFL system, he is going to be as dangerous as Watson.

Watson is a better passer than Jackson. I think that once teams have enough film on Jackson they will figure out ways to stop him and keep him in the pocket and he will struggle. That or he will suffer a serious knee injury.
RE: Was Halapio  
Ivan15 : 1/2/2019 12:25 pm : link
In comment 14244188 Pete in MD said:
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playing that well before he got hurt? I didn't notice but DG thinks so.


Looking back, and not being a film junkie, Halapio may have been the best lineman before he got hurt. The LT was new, playing hurt and trying to help the LG. The LG was raw and learning. The C was trying to help the RG and learning himself. The RG somehow fooled everyone but was trying to help out the overmatched RT.

If the Giants have even average production from the center position, and only have to address RG and RT, they are in much better shape than last year.
RE: RE: RE: Gotta get in on the ground floor of Lamar Jackson  
EricJ : 1/2/2019 12:26 pm : link
In comment 14244227 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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I love him. I want him to be great. Hated how he was treated in the draft.


how was he treated?
RE: It sounded  
Ssanders9816 : 1/2/2019 12:27 pm : link
In comment 14244151 MotownGIANTS said:
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like Eli wants to come back but cited the issues on the OL and the Offense in general to Eli. Which Eli countered with it picked up in the 2nd 1/2 after the OL got a tab bit better. To which Dave G said it needs to be better and that costs .... which leads into the paycut/restructure convo ... Eli will say he does not warrant a straight paycut and Dave G will say if you want better OL then work with me ... sounds like a very friendly team restructure happens vs a paycut (my choice and preference). Both sides has a little leverage and it is in both parties interest to meet in the middle for minimize any transitional "pains".


I agree with this 100%.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Gotta get in on the ground floor of Lamar Jackson  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/2/2019 12:27 pm : link
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I love him. I want him to be great. Hated how he was treated in the draft.



how was he treated?


It really should be it's own topic. That's not what this thread is for.
RE: I wouldn’t  
DavidinBMNY : 1/2/2019 12:29 pm : link
In comment 14244166 Sammo85 said:
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be stunned if Gettleman gave Eli the Steve Smith ultimatum and treatment.

Exactly. Eli wants to stay and play here. He hasn't won no matter how much we love him and how much the team around him has roster issues. So a pay cut affords flexibility allowing Eli to stick and compete. Refusal to do so, which if I'm Eli I probably would just walk instead, would likely lead to his release.

Eli can still play - He just isn't a game changer. Something should change here.
Halapio  
ryanmkeane : 1/2/2019 12:37 pm : link
at Center again would be disappointing. I'd prefer a 2nd or 3rd rounder.
DG said that  
Pete in MD : 1/2/2019 12:38 pm : link
he doesn't believe in "rebuilding" and he's right in the way the NFL works now IMO. He is going to try to win every year.
What kind of a Giants fan “follows” the Ravens?  
Chris684 : 1/2/2019 12:42 pm : link
What were you thinking when they were destroying us in the Super Bowl? We’re tou kind of happy?
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Gotta get in on the ground floor of Lamar Jackson  
giants#1 : 1/2/2019 12:44 pm : link
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I love him. I want him to be great. Hated how he was treated in the draft.



how was he treated?



It really should be it's own topic. That's not what this thread is for.


Not really sure what you're getting at, but maybe a lot of teams downgraded him because he's a run first QB with a slight frame and the history of run first QBs isn't very long. Vick played 16 games once in his career and only made the postseason 4 times. Newton's been much healthier and more successful, but he's a physical anomaly at 6-5, 245 lbs and may be starting to show some wear and tear at only 29.

When part of the argument for taking a QB over other players is due to their longevity, you have to knock Jackson relative to the other QBs too. And with QB being the most important position on the field, durability and stability at the position is critical. Teams can't afford to have their QB missing 3-4-5 games a season with injuries.
RE: I wouldn’t  
Eman11 : 1/2/2019 12:48 pm : link
In comment 14244166 Sammo85 said:
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be stunned if Gettleman gave Eli the Steve Smith ultimatum and treatment.


I would be. I don't think Mara would get behind that.

I think it's more likely they try and restructure his deal so he gets all his money than it is for them to give him a take it or leave it ultimatum.

I know he's due a lot next year and eats a chunk of the cap but I think they find a way for him to get all the money due him.
Jackson  
jeff57 : 1/2/2019 12:49 pm : link
Had a poor wonderlic and apparently didn't interview well.
Guy connected with the rollout of  
Jay in Toronto : 1/2/2019 12:49 pm : link
giants.com broadcasts used to post here.
Good to know that DG  
Jay in Toronto : 1/2/2019 12:49 pm : link
held on to his Yiddish after the conversion.
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Mdgiantsfan : 1/2/2019 12:53 pm : link
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I love him. I want him to be great. Hated how he was treated in the draft.



how was he treated?



It really should be it's own topic. That's not what this thread is for.



Not really sure what you're getting at, but maybe a lot of teams downgraded him because he's a run first QB with a slight frame and the history of run first QBs isn't very long. Vick played 16 games once in his career and only made the postseason 4 times. Newton's been much healthier and more successful, but he's a physical anomaly at 6-5, 245 lbs and may be starting to show some wear and tear at only 29.

When part of the argument for taking a QB over other players is due to their longevity, you have to knock Jackson relative to the other QBs too. And with QB being the most important position on the field, durability and stability at the position is critical. Teams can't afford to have their QB missing 3-4-5 games a season with injuries.


And yet no one would balk at paying A Rodgers. While he’s not run first, he is a mobile QB and nicked up often due to his mobility.
I've watched a lot of Baltimore and KC  
Go Terps : 1/2/2019 12:53 pm : link
KC because I had money on them to win the AFC West, and Baltimore because I'm fascinated by the offense they are running. I'm a big Jackson believer, but more than that I like seeing a team fully commit to having an offense run around the mobile QB. Since Jackson took over they have run 45 times for 230 yards per game (5 yards per carry). They've won the TOP battle in all 7 games, and are 6-1 over that stretch with the 1 loss being the Mahomes OT insanity game in KC.

Yeah it's only 7 games, but they're showing that there's another way to play offense in the NFL. It's a way that should interest us given the quality of our RB and the fact we're probably looking at a new QB soon.
RE: RE: The only reason  
robbieballs2003 : 1/2/2019 12:55 pm : link
In comment 14244211 blueblood said:
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He is non-committal to Eli, is because he doesn't want to tip off what he's going to do with the #6 overall pick. Duh.

C'mon guys, think.



Exactly..


This makes zero sense. One, FA happens prior to the draft. Two, Eli is owed a 5 million dollar roster bonus at the start of the new league year. Any decision on Eli is going to be made well in advance of the draft. And Eli is not stopping this team from drafting a QB if that player is wanted by this organization.
What a joke  
nygnyy274 : 1/2/2019 12:56 pm : link
That this did not air on wfan
RE: Highlights  
santacruzom : 1/2/2019 12:58 pm : link
In comment 14244153 mattlawson said:
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Foundation is there


Say what?

Jeez, I wouldn't want a guy like him to handle home inspection.
I wouldn't be surprised  
Carson53 : 1/2/2019 12:58 pm : link
if the next conversation between DG, and Eli and his agent,
centers around taking a pay cut to stay here.
If Gettleman was supposedly 'blunt' when talking with Eli,
then the pay cut, wouldn't be a surprise at all in the future conversation(s).
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Gotta get in on the ground floor of Lamar Jackson  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/2/2019 12:59 pm : link
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I love him. I want him to be great. Hated how he was treated in the draft.



how was he treated?



It really should be it's own topic. That's not what this thread is for.



Not really sure what you're getting at, but maybe a lot of teams downgraded him because he's a run first QB with a slight frame and the history of run first QBs isn't very long. Vick played 16 games once in his career and only made the postseason 4 times. Newton's been much healthier and more successful, but he's a physical anomaly at 6-5, 245 lbs and may be starting to show some wear and tear at only 29.

When part of the argument for taking a QB over other players is due to their longevity, you have to knock Jackson relative to the other QBs too. And with QB being the most important position on the field, durability and stability at the position is critical. Teams can't afford to have their QB missing 3-4-5 games a season with injuries.


We're really millering a thread for a different topic though. I'm fine having the conversation, but this isn't a thread about Lamar Jackson. It just happened to be sidetracked out of a comment made about the Ravens team website.
Eli taking a major  
ryanmkeane : 1/2/2019 12:59 pm : link
paycut and drafting QB i think would make a lot of BBIers happy, including myself
Rodgers has played all 16 games 7 times  
giants#1 : 1/2/2019 12:59 pm : link
and 15 twice (one was 2011 when he sat the final game of regular season). He's only missed time in 2013 and 2017 due to major injuries. He's also consistently made the postseason (basically only missed them his first season starting and this year).

If there was a running QB with any where close to that type of track record, they would get paid too.
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GiantGrit : 1/2/2019 1:09 pm : link
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Dave Gettleman says Eli Manning came in to him on Monday and says he wanted to talk.

"Wasn't like he was called to the principal's office. He came to see me."

Based on Archie's comments earlier this week, I wonder if Eli went in and gave his list of demands for next season.


List of demands? lol.
People have funny ideas of how this process works  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/2/2019 1:15 pm : link
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RE: What a joke  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 1/2/2019 1:19 pm : link
In comment 14244346 nygnyy274 said:
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That this did not air on wfan


During Beningo and Roberts? HAHAHAHAHA.

They were taking calls about Bruce Arians coming out of retirement to coach the Jets!
Just one note  
pjcas18 : 1/2/2019 1:23 pm : link
on Halapio for fans awareness.

Halapio isn't a young project, the Giants are his 7th organization since 2014 including two separate stints in the FXFL.

He may have been playing well and may continue to play well - nothing I will post is a commentary on that at all, just saying he's 28 years old before training camp next year and has 8 career NFL starts (all with the Giants though he was on practice squads for the Patriots (twice), Broncos, and Cardinals (plus the aforementioned FXFL).

RE: RE: I wouldn’t  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/2/2019 1:27 pm : link
In comment 14244320 Eman11 said:
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be stunned if Gettleman gave Eli the Steve Smith ultimatum and treatment.



I would be. I don't think Mara would get behind that.

I think it's more likely they try and restructure his deal so he gets all his money than it is for them to give him a take it or leave it ultimatum.

I know he's due a lot next year and eats a chunk of the cap but I think they find a way for him to get all the money due him.


I wouldn't be stunned at all. It is the way DG has handled a lot of veterans in his career. steve Smith, DeAngelo Williams, Jon Beason, Jordan Gross.

When he broached the topic for Thomas Davis and Greg Olsen he was shown the door.
Though to play the other side  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/2/2019 1:35 pm : link
and he said it himself in his welcome press conference, Eli put rings on his fingers.

He has a connection point there. He didn't with Steve Smith and Greg Olsen.

It does matter. You see how fans stay so emotionally connected to players. Imagine if you worked with the guy directly.
Any transcripts or video posted yet?  
JonC : 1/2/2019 1:38 pm : link
thanks.
Nothing would surprise me in regards to the QB....  
Britt in VA : 1/2/2019 1:39 pm : link
Wouldn't surprise me if he retired, was cut, drafted a replacement at six, extended, etc...

Nothing would surprise me. I trust DG to do what's right by the Giants.
RE: Any transcripts or video posted yet?  
BeckShepEli : 1/2/2019 1:41 pm : link
In comment 14244416 JonC said:
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thanks.


Looks like they finally posted it on giants.com
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