Give me a pocket passer all day every day. That's the only thing that works in the NFL.
RE: Halapio. Beyond the fact he's proven to be a journeyman at best, a dude that big recovering from a lower leg injury is tough. What are the odds he's as good as he was last year? Another year older with a bad wheel? That was a major injury.
be stunned if Gettleman gave Eli the Steve Smith ultimatum and treatment.
I would be. I don't think Mara would get behind that.
I think it's more likely they try and restructure his deal so he gets all his money than it is for them to give him a take it or leave it ultimatum.
I know he's due a lot next year and eats a chunk of the cap but I think they find a way for him to get all the money due him.
I wouldn't be stunned at all. It is the way DG has handled a lot of veterans in his career. steve Smith, DeAngelo Williams, Jon Beason, Jordan Gross.
When he broached the topic for Thomas Davis and Greg Olsen he was shown the door.
No doubt DG has the stones to do it but I think Eli is on a higher level than those vets. At least when it comes to what he's not only done for the Giants franchise, but their fans and DG himself.
I know those guys were important to Carolina's history but they didn't accomplish what Eli has and I just feel the Giants wouldn't do him that way.
Could it happen? Sure, but I'd be surprised if it went down that way. I think it's much more likely they either bring him back, restructure so he gets his money somehow, or convince him to retire because they don't want his career here to end with them cutting him.
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Halapio isn't a young project, the Giants are his 7th organization since 2014 including two separate stints in the FXFL.
He may have been playing well and may continue to play well - nothing I will post is a commentary on that at all, just saying he's 28 years old before training camp next year and has 8 career NFL starts (all with the Giants though he was on practice squads for the Patriots (twice), Broncos, and Cardinals (plus the aforementioned FXFL).
disagree that a connection can influence decisions. Heck, it was the turning point for DG in Carolina when he tried to look at options for two players the owner had a connection to:
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It does matter. You see how fans stay so emotionally connected to players. Imagine if you worked with the guy directly.
The difference is that there were a lot of comments made about DG's lack of emotion and sentimentality when making moves in Carolina. Steve Smith said he was a cold-blooded, heartless person. DeAngelo Williams said he deserved better from Gettleman and the Panthers.
Center - Don't forget that the Giants signed UDRFA Â
OC Evan Brown and kept him on the 53 Man ROSTER all year. They must really see something in this kid since they didn't want to risk losing him by placing him on the practice squad.
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My personal hope is that Eli leaves NY, and plays for another team a whole year, or retires.
I personally can't bear this relationship any longer. Eli getting ****ed on, and he has to keep taking this as a professional. It's fine for a time, maybe more than a time, but it's gone too far.
The Giants can figure out how to be professionals on their own at this point.
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ahh...so you think the Ravens would trade Jackson because people "stupid fans" have doubt? The guy won three games without throwing a TD pass. Once he figures out the offense and how to play in an NFL system, he is going to be as dangerous as Watson.
I love him. I want him to be great. Hated how he was treated in the draft.
This is more an indictment of the draft class than an endorsement of Jackson, but I said I thought he could end up being the best of the bunch. He was constantly left out of the QB talk; we only heard about the big 4. I still think this may end up being true, but again it is more a lack of faith in Rosen or Allen, thinking Darnold is overrated, and thinking Mayfield (I always thought the best QB of the bunch) is a problem waiting to happen (Manziel-lite).
It could also be a bad sign he wasn't ready to play late in the year when Pulley went down, although Shurmur seems like a "players coach" meaning he'd give the vet (Greco) the nod.
I still think they'll re-sign Brown, buy a RT in free agency and draft a C. But we'll see.
That's a lot of resources when DG is clearly looking to infuse the D.
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if Eli wanted to talk to Gettleman right away Monday, it was to discuss where he was at and to get an idea on where the Giants were at before moving forward and everybody making decisions in the offseason.
I think Eli would legitimately consider retiring and maybe even mentioned it to Gettleman to ask for a little time with family before going one way or the other.
I suspect Eli wanted to get an idea where Giants are at for next year and how they evaluate him.
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Sounds about right. Sometimes you need to light $20m on fire and start subpar players to fix team culture.
"My contract is for 23 mil next year that's what I expect." What does Gettleman do?
Whatever he does, it won't be without running it by the Maras first.
See what Fats wrote about his brutally honest conversations and decisions with a few of the Panthers.
I see some kind of face saving voidable extension that's effectively a pay cut and salary cap lowering hit for 2019, allowing the Giants to add some more veteran OL and D help. But it wouldn't be my first bad prediction if not.
He will not pull any punches. It appears that he makes decisions that look to be irrational to some: however, he makes them, as he says based on fluidity. With that said, everyone knows that Eli is not worth what he is being paid, and I believe Gettleman and Eli had the conversation that in order for Eli to have a shot at winning a SB, the team needs better players than just rookies. Eli knows this. How realistic is it for Eli to win another SB, given the state of the team? Probably not. I don't know. Right tackle needs to be addressed, Brown would need to be resigned, and the defense needs an ER or ERs, FS, CB and maybe another LB. It would be difficult to make the Giants a SB contender next year, and Eli will be 39. Eli also knows that his heir apparent needs to be considered very soon. I believe both DG and Eli are being pragmatic about the situation and I would not be surprised if Eli retires. Archie speaking out gives me the feeling that this maybe the case.
It's also quite possible that thy don't like any of the top QBs Â
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but i didn't realize that omameh was.. guess he couldn't've been that great for the culture if they dumped him mid-season.
Or he was but barkley's maturity and Stewart's locker room presence offset his "intangible" value coupled with a pressing need to try something on the OL .. ie Brown and Wheeler.
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Very interesting.
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seems like it was not a fun conversation they had...here's hoping 10 makes it back to NYG for one more shot.
no here’s hoping he retires so the Giants win again
The TEAM wins and loses. Not 1 player.
Eli is the starting QB in 2019 with a better OL and better Defense.
1) Giants scored the most points in NFC East.
2) Giants allowed the most points in the NFC East.
Why is this "giants scored the most in NFC East" being throwing around as its the greatest accomplishment or being a prolific offense ala LA Rams etc etc? Bottomline, end result, last place in division. Can blame defense and losing close games..but this offense many of times than not failed nor didnt close out games.
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Very interesting.
That is exactly what I was saying about Stewart when we signed him. Everyone was pointing out whether the guy could be a productive runner and I said he is not here to run the ball.
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Very interesting.
That is exactly what I was saying about Stewart when we signed him. Everyone was pointing out whether the guy could be a productive runner and I said he is not here to run the ball.
People don't get it.
People got it at the time. They just disagreed that it's worth it, especially in the case of Barkley, who is super coachable and isn't a character concern.
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but i didn't realize that omameh was.. guess he couldn't've been that great for the culture if they dumped him mid-season.
Makes sense when you think about the biggest culture culprits last year (outside of the irredeemable Apple) were their starting offensive tackles. Heck, 4/5 of their line look like they might have been let go for more than performance (or lack thereof).
but I think we can all agree the culture and the atmosphere surrounding the team is tons better now than at this time last year. I'm anxious to see what this off season brings. Reading the tea leaves with respect to Manning, I don't think Getts wants to pay Eli north of 20 million for this year. He likes and respects Eli and still thinks he can play, but he will make the tough decisions in the team's best interest. Can't ask for anything more from a GM.
How do you not come away feeling cautiously optimistic after that? Â
For one thing it's very clear that the locker room was as big if not a bigger problem then we imagined. They fixed that in one season, and it eroded over multiple seasons.
The definition of insanity line is true to how Gettleman operates. If it's not working he changes it. Look at the OL.
I agree the team is moving in the right direction.
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Very interesting.
That is exactly what I was saying about Stewart when we signed him. Everyone was pointing out whether the guy could be a productive runner and I said he is not here to run the ball.
People don't get it.
Count me as someone who doesn't get it, unless the effectiveness of these kinds of moves is somehow considered to be self-evident and backed by precedent.
Was an awful experience, and one outcome of that is I think Eli never has or will hold the team and how much he cherishes playing for it in the same light he had previously.
It's something you can't walk back from. Ever. And I think Eli proved he can still play and that's enough.
He's done enough. 2 time SB winner. 2 time SB MVP. We were lucky to have him.
in some capacity for a while. Maybe as mentor a for the new QB possibly. He could follow Peyton's example but think not. The $$$ will be worked out. The guy is a football Mench, loves the the game and the Giants like DG said. MO.
People got it at the time. They just disagreed that it's worth it, especially in the case of Barkley, who is super coachable and isn't a character concern.
No... people did not get it. Plus, nobody knew that Barkley was was going to be as much of a leader as he is a talented RB. NOBODY knew that.
This locker room sucked last year and bringing in Stewart was not just for Barkley. We needed more veterans in the locker room who knew how to be a professional.
If you ever get to spend any time on a team at a high level, you will understand that the things that happen off of the field are just as important as what you see on TV during the 60 minutes. The Giants teams that won the last two Superbowls should be a prime example. We were not the most talented team in both instances. It was the leadership and the intangibles that truly were the difference.
in some capacity for a while. Maybe as mentor a for the new QB possibly. He could follow Peyton's example but think not. The $$$ will be worked out. The guy is a football Mench, loves the the game and the Giants like DG said. MO.
please no mentor role. Eli said he is not interested in it and as long as he is with the team, it is very difficult for a young QB to develop, IMO.
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For one thing it's very clear that the locker room was as big if not a bigger problem then we imagined. They fixed that in one season, and it eroded over multiple seasons.
The definition of insanity line is true to how Gettleman operates. If it's not working he changes it. Look at the OL.
I agree the team is moving in the right direction.
Now go draft Josh Allen from Kentucky at #6.
Probably a good chance Allen isn't there at 6, then who??
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"My contract is for 23 mil next year that's what I expect." What does Gettleman do?
Likely pull out his contract and show him that he is indeed not going to make $23M in 2019 and probably refer him to his agent and lawyer to review in more detail.
I think the first thing Gettleman needs to draft Â
Gettleman on the Eli Manning question: "We will do what's in the best interests of the New York Giants. We're trying to build sustained success. That takes brutal honesty and some tough decisions."
and is on the board at 6...I'd be somewhat shocked if Giants passed again. Local kid, hard working, good background, and has really looked great in just 14 career starts. If he aces the combine and interviews which I'm sure he will, he'll be the top QB prospect by a good margin.
Neither Gettleman nor Shurmur can seem to pass on any opportunity to point out that the 2017 team went 3-13 and had a bad culture.
That just doesn't seem like good leadership to me.
Saying they want to change the culture is not good leadership? What does that even mean? Plenty of people say it all the time, coaches, GMs, and owners.
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had previously handled player relationships. I had a negative reaction and didn't like him at all.
Then I watched his first press conference. And loved the guy. And I just watched the tape of today's press conference. And I still love the guy - even more.
I think he is very straight forward. He says what he can and imo only holds back if answering would hurt the team in some way (negotiations; player relationship; draft or game strategy; etc). Otherwise, I think he is one of the most open and down to earth guys I've ever listened to. A breath of fresh air.
Looking back 30 years from now, he may not in hindsight end up being the greatest GM of all time. But I can't think of anyone else I would rather have as GM of the NY Giants for the foreseeable future.
Nothing would surprise me. I trust DG to do what's right by the Giants.
Give me a pocket passer all day every day. That's the only thing that works in the NFL.
RE: Halapio. Beyond the fact he's proven to be a journeyman at best, a dude that big recovering from a lower leg injury is tough. What are the odds he's as good as he was last year? Another year older with a bad wheel? That was a major injury.
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be stunned if Gettleman gave Eli the Steve Smith ultimatum and treatment.
I would be. I don't think Mara would get behind that.
I think it's more likely they try and restructure his deal so he gets all his money than it is for them to give him a take it or leave it ultimatum.
I know he's due a lot next year and eats a chunk of the cap but I think they find a way for him to get all the money due him.
I wouldn't be stunned at all. It is the way DG has handled a lot of veterans in his career. steve Smith, DeAngelo Williams, Jon Beason, Jordan Gross.
When he broached the topic for Thomas Davis and Greg Olsen he was shown the door.
No doubt DG has the stones to do it but I think Eli is on a higher level than those vets. At least when it comes to what he's not only done for the Giants franchise, but their fans and DG himself.
I know those guys were important to Carolina's history but they didn't accomplish what Eli has and I just feel the Giants wouldn't do him that way.
Could it happen? Sure, but I'd be surprised if it went down that way. I think it's much more likely they either bring him back, restructure so he gets his money somehow, or convince him to retire because they don't want his career here to end with them cutting him.
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Wouldn't surprise me if he retired, was cut, drafted a replacement at six, extended, etc...
Nothing would surprise me. I trust DG to do what's right by the Giants.
from the guy who has been repeatedly stating as fact that Eli would be the starter for the Giants next year, that’s a huge pivot
Still believe he will be starting, and have outlined the reasons a hundred thousand times at this point.
I just said I wouldn't be surprised. Just like I said I wouldn't be surprised if we took a QB at number 2 last year.
I want to amend my statement, though, now.
What WILL surprise me is if they cut Eli and sign some journeyman bum QB for 10 million.
Halapio isn't a young project, the Giants are his 7th organization since 2014 including two separate stints in the FXFL.
He may have been playing well and may continue to play well - nothing I will post is a commentary on that at all, just saying he's 28 years old before training camp next year and has 8 career NFL starts (all with the Giants though he was on practice squads for the Patriots (twice), Broncos, and Cardinals (plus the aforementioned FXFL).
The difference is that there were a lot of comments made about DG's lack of emotion and sentimentality when making moves in Carolina. Steve Smith said he was a cold-blooded, heartless person. DeAngelo Williams said he deserved better from Gettleman and the Panthers.
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Wouldn't surprise me if he retired, was cut, drafted a replacement at six, extended, etc...
Nothing would surprise me. I trust DG to do what's right by the Giants.
from the guy who has been repeatedly stating as fact that Eli would be the starter for the Giants next year, that’s a huge pivot
Still believe he will be starting, and have outlined the reasons a hundred thousand times at this point.
I just said I wouldn't be surprised. Just like I said I wouldn't be surprised if we took a QB at number 2 last year.
I want to amend my statement, though, now.
What WILL surprise me is if they cut Eli and sign some journeyman bum QB for 10 million.
what if they sign a journeyman bum for 5 mil?
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thanks.
Looks like they finally posted it on giants.com
Yep, they just did. Thanks.
I personally can't bear this relationship any longer. Eli getting ****ed on, and he has to keep taking this as a professional. It's fine for a time, maybe more than a time, but it's gone too far.
The Giants can figure out how to be professionals on their own at this point.
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While people are still doubtful, lol
ahh...so you think the Ravens would trade Jackson because people "stupid fans" have doubt? The guy won three games without throwing a TD pass. Once he figures out the offense and how to play in an NFL system, he is going to be as dangerous as Watson.
I love him. I want him to be great. Hated how he was treated in the draft.
I still think they'll re-sign Brown, buy a RT in free agency and draft a C. But we'll see.
That's a lot of resources when DG is clearly looking to infuse the D.
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I think Eli would legitimately consider retiring and maybe even mentioned it to Gettleman to ask for a little time with family before going one way or the other.
I suspect Eli wanted to get an idea where Giants are at for next year and how they evaluate him.
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Sounds about right. Sometimes you need to light $20m on fire and start subpar players to fix team culture.
Whatever he does, it won't be without running it by the Maras first.
See what Fats wrote about his brutally honest conversations and decisions with a few of the Panthers.
I see some kind of face saving voidable extension that's effectively a pay cut and salary cap lowering hit for 2019, allowing the Giants to add some more veteran OL and D help. But it wouldn't be my first bad prediction if not.
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That's a brutal answer. Oof.
Or he was but barkley's maturity and Stewart's locker room presence offset his "intangible" value coupled with a pressing need to try something on the OL .. ie Brown and Wheeler.
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Very interesting.
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seems like it was not a fun conversation they had...here's hoping 10 makes it back to NYG for one more shot.
no here’s hoping he retires so the Giants win again
The TEAM wins and loses. Not 1 player.
Eli is the starting QB in 2019 with a better OL and better Defense.
1) Giants scored the most points in NFC East.
2) Giants allowed the most points in the NFC East.
Why is this "giants scored the most in NFC East" being throwing around as its the greatest accomplishment or being a prolific offense ala LA Rams etc etc? Bottomline, end result, last place in division. Can blame defense and losing close games..but this offense many of times than not failed nor didnt close out games.
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Very interesting.
That is exactly what I was saying about Stewart when we signed him. Everyone was pointing out whether the guy could be a productive runner and I said he is not here to run the ball.
People don't get it.
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Very interesting.
That is exactly what I was saying about Stewart when we signed him. Everyone was pointing out whether the guy could be a productive runner and I said he is not here to run the ball.
People don't get it.
People got it at the time. They just disagreed that it's worth it, especially in the case of Barkley, who is super coachable and isn't a character concern.
Makes sense when you think about the biggest culture culprits last year (outside of the irredeemable Apple) were their starting offensive tackles. Heck, 4/5 of their line look like they might have been let go for more than performance (or lack thereof).
The definition of insanity line is true to how Gettleman operates. If it's not working he changes it. Look at the OL.
I agree the team is moving in the right direction.
Now go draft Josh Allen from Kentucky at #6.
He would probably say, "Hey, dummy, you are only slated to paid $17M."
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Very interesting.
That is exactly what I was saying about Stewart when we signed him. Everyone was pointing out whether the guy could be a productive runner and I said he is not here to run the ball.
People don't get it.
Count me as someone who doesn't get it, unless the effectiveness of these kinds of moves is somehow considered to be self-evident and backed by precedent.
It's something you can't walk back from. Ever. And I think Eli proved he can still play and that's enough.
He's done enough. 2 time SB winner. 2 time SB MVP. We were lucky to have him.
That just doesn't seem like good leadership to me.
People got it at the time. They just disagreed that it's worth it, especially in the case of Barkley, who is super coachable and isn't a character concern.
No... people did not get it. Plus, nobody knew that Barkley was was going to be as much of a leader as he is a talented RB. NOBODY knew that.
This locker room sucked last year and bringing in Stewart was not just for Barkley. We needed more veterans in the locker room who knew how to be a professional.
If you ever get to spend any time on a team at a high level, you will understand that the things that happen off of the field are just as important as what you see on TV during the 60 minutes. The Giants teams that won the last two Superbowls should be a prime example. We were not the most talented team in both instances. It was the leadership and the intangibles that truly were the difference.
please no mentor role. Eli said he is not interested in it and as long as he is with the team, it is very difficult for a young QB to develop, IMO.
The definition of insanity line is true to how Gettleman operates. If it's not working he changes it. Look at the OL.
I agree the team is moving in the right direction.
Now go draft Josh Allen from Kentucky at #6.
Probably a good chance Allen isn't there at 6, then who??
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At least with Stewert we kind of figured that.
Likely pull out his contract and show him that he is indeed not going to make $23M in 2019 and probably refer him to his agent and lawyer to review in more detail.
Interesting to say the least.
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Not filling me with confidence...
You are so biased that there's likely nothing Gettleman could say to inspire you with confidence.
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I'm listening to Gettleman now with Francesa
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Not filling me with confidence...
You are so biased that there's likely nothing Gettleman could say to inspire you with confidence.
Yes, and you've shown yourself to be the model of objectivity.
That just doesn't seem like good leadership to me.
Saying they want to change the culture is not good leadership? What does that even mean? Plenty of people say it all the time, coaches, GMs, and owners.
We played horrible football this year? C'mon man. We were competitive in nearly every game aside from 3.
Then I watched his first press conference. And loved the guy. And I just watched the tape of today's press conference. And I still love the guy - even more.
I think he is very straight forward. He says what he can and imo only holds back if answering would hurt the team in some way (negotiations; player relationship; draft or game strategy; etc). Otherwise, I think he is one of the most open and down to earth guys I've ever listened to. A breath of fresh air.
Looking back 30 years from now, he may not in hindsight end up being the greatest GM of all time. But I can't think of anyone else I would rather have as GM of the NY Giants for the foreseeable future.