I would not.
I'm reading a lot of posts saying the Giants should draft one and sign one offensive lineman. But let's say Jonah Williams is available at 6 (the mock draft from earlier has him going with the 5th pick to the Bucs). If the Jags want Haskins, maybe the trade above the Giants (fine by me), allowing the Giants to grab Williams, and we immediately plug him into the RT slot.
I've watched some videos of Wisconsin center Tyler Biadasz. I've read a different 4-round mock that sees Biadasz, the top-ranked center, going 74th overall (9th in the third round). It could be a risk/reach at that point, so if it makes sense at that point, trade back in the second, or high in the third, and try to grab another later-round pick for defense. With Saquon Barkley in our backfield, I'd argue that cementing this offensive line for the next 3-4 years (with a few serviceable backups) might be a very smart way to go.
Here would be our starting O-line next fall, with ages in September.
LT - Nate Solder - 31
LG - Will Hernandez - 24
C - Tyler Biadasz - (can't find his age online, but 20?)
RG - Jamon Brown - 26
RT - Jonah Williams - 21
Reserves
Chad Wheeler (OT) - 25
Brian Mihalik (OT) - 27
John Greco (OG) - 34
Jon Halapio (C) - 28
Spencer Pulley (C) - 26
Essentially, defense would be filled through FA and the lower-end of the draft. I think we're set at TE, with the flexibility to move Engram inside and out, as an additional WR when desired. I think he showed something this season - 33 catches, 475 yards his last 7 games. I think we'd all be pretty happy with 50-60 catches in the 750-800 ballpark from him next year.
I'm hoping the Giants could look at guys like CJ Mosley and KJ Wright as linebacker, as well as a couple of the higher-echelon DBs at both S and CB.
Top o' the draft: Fix the O-line. Go from there.
But if they become Joe Thomas and Larry Allen (1st and 2nd round picks) then I'd be ecstatic.
just hit on the picks.
Plus the annual ritual hype machine which will push up glamour pieces displacing those down..
Doing DL in #1 and #2 is more likely to find you the game changers.
OL Rd 2, and maybe a FA signing as well
Yes.
Plus the annual ritual hype machine which will push up glamour pieces displacing those down..
Doing DL in #1 and #2 is more likely to find you the game changers.
And perhaps push a guy like Biadasz to the 4th. Unlikely, but possible, if there's a fire sale on DL/Edge guys.
Strange how perspective changes over time. I view the draft much differently now than I used to, years back. I actually root for other teams' reaches in higher rounds. lol
Preference Rd 1 OL (OT) and RD 2 DL (DE) or Rush OLB ... I would not be opposed to FS in the 2nd as well if a gem falls
I don't know much about the prospects yet, but the one mock earlier had Jonah Williams being selected 5th by Tampa Bay.
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Worth the sixth pick in the draft.
I don't know much about the prospects yet, but the one mock earlier had Jonah Williams being selected 5th by Tampa Bay.
I know. But I think that's a reach. There are 6 defensive players, at least, I can think of as ranking higher than any OL.
2. LB or FS
3. Pick from 6,7,7 etc
4a. Center
4b. LB or FS or a CB that hits hard
5. Center again or guard to play center or blocking TE or DB
6. Packaged remaining to trade up into 3rd
Lol
That and "what about signing Teddy Bridgewater?..."
To me, the OL was the primary reason this team started 1-7.
I wouldn't mind drafting 2 OL, but not first 2 picks both OL.
Seems like a draft where the D front 7 is going to be where the value is at 6... especially if some team(s) become so enthralled with one or another of the QBs that they jump ahead of the Giants to grab him.
We need a pass D / chase RB LB.
We need a true free safety. At least one, if not another strong safety.
We Need some corners who tackle. One burner cb.
We could use a few generic lbs that 'get' football.
It's a historic DL draft, you would be insane (given how worn out our run D looked late in games) not to take advantage of possibly historic value plays at DT and 3/4 DE.
Plus basic draft logic of value and opportunities.
There's your entire draft potentially.
- Future QB
- C
- RG
- RT
- ER (2)
- FS
- SS (if Collins isn't resigned)
- CB
- LB
Plus any rotational guys we lose to Free Agency
The talent at pass rush is to exciting to not snag someone in the first two rounds.
There is really no Defensive position on our current roster that does not need an upgrade.
For sure an upgrade at ORT is needed. Whether via the draft or free agency or trade is unclear right now.
We have enough picks to find an interior OL somewhere in the draft.
But our Defense cries out for an infusion of talent.
Let's not reach. DG did a nice job in the middle rounds of last year's draft. Hopefully, he can duplicate his success.
One of those defensive picks (and the only first rounder) is no longer with the team (Apple), and one of them may not be next season (Collins). I think we saw this past season that some attention is greatly needed on that defense. Real talent, not just mid-round gambles.
If you're going to go offensive again in the first round, I believe it has to be for a QB, and I don't see the value at 6 for any this go around, so I would say you try to trade down if that's your plan.
The OL needs this team has in the short-term can be addressed in free agency and/or in those middle rounds, particularly at OG and C.
He's basically a rookie
No pundits questioned his ceiling, he dropped on health and seems to have conquered that.
I'm leaning towards a legit pro bowl type or close center via free agency and the all defense draft.
Opportunities meet needs.
Center in round 4
Thank you very much.
Collins is a box safety who plays well against the run
But run plays represent only one-third of the usual offensive plays of our opponents.
That means Collins is a liability on two-thirds of the plays that he is on the field.
2. OLB
3. FS
4. IlB
4. Corner
5. SS
6. OLB
7. ILB
Free agency:
Center
Followed by:
Center
Any DT drafted that high,even if large enough for DT , would have to have the quicks and moves enough for the "3/4 DE" function also.
If smaller (min 285 for front 3 that high) must be a total game wrecker.
Otherwise looking if the player at 260 can function as an olb
Seriously, there is no way we take 2 OL in the first 2 rounds with all the holes on defense
I am all in on making the OL better/fixed....if the first round has a stud edge rusher, you probably go for him....but I would use the second, and even package a couple picks to move up if necessary to get another OLman, and then get the third in FAcy, or two free agents and a draftee......Fixing this OL make Eli better, makes Barkley even better, and creates a stable OL for a future Rookie QB....
As far as the defense goes, I would go for an edge rusher in the first if he is there(I doubt there will be a QB we really want), and then I would concentrate on the safety and CB positions.....back in 2016, it was the play of our defensive backfield, that was huge, and it was the DL that was given most of the credit.....If receivers are covered, that qb has to hold onto the ball a hair longer......sometimes that makes all the difference in the world...
So if we are going all in xyear with Eli again, fixing the OL is a must.....and on defense, I think we take a chance on one more year of OV, hoping he can stay healthy, and hopefully someone can coach him to contain the edge....Lack of corners forces us to keep Jenkins at least one more year....but Collins has to go, unless he signs a very favorable contract...his coverage skills are a liability....getting a stud linebacker would be huge....
I wouldn't, for example, go OL in round 1 when a great edge rusher is there for the picking.
Best avail, is still the way to go.
Positions I'd say away from early, meaning first four rounds: WR, RB, TE. But everywhere else the Giants can improve the team by picking a position.
Accumulate good players. And don't reach!