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Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/2/2019 3:42 pm
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New York Giants General Manager Dave Gettleman Addresses Media - ( New Window )
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Big Blue '56 : 1/2/2019 4:03 pm : link
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Q: How important is it for you to address the quarterback of the future of this team this offseason? Is that a priority?


A: Let me tell you something: if you make something a priority, you will make a mistake. It’s got to be within the flow of what you’re doing. You can’t force it, especially at quarterback. That’s why the guys in Carolina looked at me like I was out of my mind, you guys looked at me (like I was out of my mind). You get in the draft, you’re taking the best player — you’re not taking, ‘ I need a ___, so I’m taking a ___’. No. You do that, you’re going to make a mistake, you’re going to screw it up.

i think thats how  
cjac : 1/2/2019 4:24 pm : link
we ended up drafting Lauletta

they couldnt believe he was still there in the 4th
I encourage fans to read it  
JonC : 1/2/2019 4:42 pm : link
and absorb the parts about not reaching in the draft. Draft the best players and build the puzzle.
I'm guessing DE or Edge rusher  
bc4life : 1/2/2019 5:08 pm : link
in the draft - most likely value there.
Great!  
K-Gun? Pop-Gun : 1/2/2019 5:11 pm : link
Here comes 8-8, and no new franchise QB ever in sight.
If your smart you create your own opportunities  
UberAlias : 1/2/2019 5:20 pm : link
Reese always sat back and took what the draft gave him. You can’t force things, but being passive and a victim of your circumstances isn’t good either. Especially when it comes to QB. If your guy is there, you go get him. If not, don’t force the wrong guy just to say you have one.
" In December?  
Ron Johnson : 1/2/2019 5:22 pm : link
We scored 36, we scored 35, 27, scored 40. How does that look? He still can make the NFL throws. You know what I’m saying? He’s still got it."


doesn't sound like moving on from Eli to me
What happens, not saying this draft, the BPA  
micky : 1/2/2019 5:27 pm : link
Is a RB, and say, the next BPA is a Wr? You draft them (smirking)
RE: I encourage fans to read it  
Jay on the Island : 1/2/2019 5:38 pm : link
In comment 14244808 JonC said:
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and absorb the parts about not reaching in the draft. Draft the best players and build the puzzle.

Agreed. If they think Haskins is a franchise QB then by all means make the selection but I think that their board will feature several other available options over him. I think they will select a pass rusher at 6 with Josh Allen being the likely target.
Gettleman  
Big_Pete : 1/2/2019 5:44 pm : link
I really like Gettleman's approach.

Give coaching staff the players he needs and build NYG for sustained success

Collaborative approach with his evaluations, coaching staff evaluations and pro personnel evaluations

Let the emotion of the season pass and then formulate the plan going forward. Be willing to make whatever hard decisions need to be made in the best interest of franchise. Don't be afraid of making mistakes and admit when things didn't work out and make changes. Keep continually improving.

He isn't going to reach for a QB. Just keep taking the best player available.


RE: RE: I encourage fans to read it  
Big_Pete : 1/2/2019 5:46 pm : link
In comment 14244878 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 14244808 JonC said:


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and absorb the parts about not reaching in the draft. Draft the best players and build the puzzle.


Agreed. If they think Haskins is a franchise QB then by all means make the selection but I think that their board will feature several other available options over him. I think they will select a pass rusher at 6 with Josh Allen being the likely target.


yes and no

If they believe Haskins is the best player available at 6, then he will be the guy. If not it will be someone else. I really think it is probably as simple as that for Gettleman.
RE:  
RDJR : 1/2/2019 5:50 pm : link
In comment 14244862 Ron Johnson said:
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We scored 36, we scored 35, 27, scored 40. How does that look? He still can make the NFL throws. You know what I’m saying? He’s still got it."

doesn't sound like moving on from Eli to me


Did you see the end of that comment, he said, “at least that part of it......”
RE:  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/2/2019 6:04 pm : link
In comment 14244862 Ron Johnson said:
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We scored 36, we scored 35, 27, scored 40. How does that look? He still can make the NFL throws. You know what I’m saying? He’s still got it."


doesn't sound like moving on from Eli to me


"he can still make NFL throws" isn't exactly heaping praise either.
Drafting for need  
Vanzetti : 1/2/2019 6:09 pm : link
Is how Giana wound up with Flowers
making way too much  
bc4life : 1/2/2019 6:49 pm : link
of press conference and reecnt Eli/DG conversation. All parties involved been thinking about this since, at least, when DG interviewed for the job.

I'd bet he's back for 2019, after that who knows. Think that's the smart move, vased on what's in front of usright now.

One of hardest things in this league to get is franchise QB. Eli still has one best football IQs, work ethic, and still has enough physical skills to get job done. Rest of players just starting to roll out this new offense. Whne they hand it off they will do so only if theyb think person can handle the job. From waht I can see, no FAs or draft picks will fit the bill.

Totally disagree with those who wanted to get rid of him afew years ago. Problem wasn't Eli - it was lack of a suporting cast. And when they tried to they made poor personnel decisions (Flowers, Pugh, Richburg).

Time will tell what they do but whatever it is certainly won't be based on one conversation.
RE: Great!  
BigBlueShock : 1/2/2019 6:51 pm : link
In comment 14244842 K-Gun? Pop-Gun said:
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Here comes 8-8, and no new franchise QB ever in sight.

I want my QB! Where’s my QB? Just draft a QB so I can be happy we drafted a QB damn it! Any QB! Just to say we have a QB!

Brilliant.
RE: I encourage fans to read it  
Blue21 : 1/2/2019 6:53 pm : link
In comment 14244808 JonC said:
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and absorb the parts about not reaching in the draft. Draft the best players and build the puzzle.


Exactly. I am not expecting a QB. It sounds like many on BBI are. Not unless Gettleman is 100% sure he values that pick where we pick him. Unless something drastically changes we will not be picking a QB. Personally I want BPA.
RE: Gettleman  
Photoguy : 1/2/2019 6:58 pm : link
In comment 14244887 Big_Pete said:
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I really like Gettleman's approach.

Give coaching staff the players he needs and build NYG for sustained success

Collaborative approach with his evaluations, coaching staff evaluations and pro personnel evaluations

Let the emotion of the season pass and then formulate the plan going forward. Be willing to make whatever hard decisions need to be made in the best interest of franchise. Don't be afraid of making mistakes and admit when things didn't work out and make changes. Keep continually improving.

He isn't going to reach for a QB. Just keep taking the best player available.




+1000
Wow!  
Photoguy : 1/2/2019 7:24 pm : link
Great pc. I feel good about where this team is headed.
Did the Titans game not happen????  
twostepgiants : 1/2/2019 8:04 pm : link
A: In December? We scored 36, we scored 35, 27, scored 40. How does that look? He still can make the NFL throws. You know what I’m saying? He’s still got it.
RE: Did the Titans game not happen????  
Rjanyg : 1/2/2019 8:13 pm : link
In comment 14245066 twostepgiants said:
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A: In December? We scored 36, we scored 35, 27, scored 40. How does that look? He still can make the NFL throws. You know what I’m saying? He’s still got it.


The Titans game was bad for everyone, not just Eli. Many dropped passes in that game and we couldn’t tackle Henry. The weather sucked balls and they were out to stop Barkley. Eli had a couple bad throws.
Giants  
Sammo85 : 1/2/2019 8:17 pm : link
have not come close to assembling their draft board. So I’d hesitate in assertaining at this point that there’s no QB deemed high value and a fit they see for them.

I tend to feel there will be a ton of defensive players graded very highly on their board. I’d be surprised if it’s not a defensive player at 6. Maybe an OT really jumps up but that would be the only outlier I see.
This statement stuck out for me.  
Reese's Pieces : 1/2/2019 8:49 pm : link
when you’re bringing in and installing a new offense, you’re looking at four to six weeks before everybody’s really on the same page, and it’s really the outlier, it’s six.

Why don't the new linemen play through most of the preseason. They can get three or four of those games they need to play as a unit in games that don't count.

Protecting an offensive lineman from injury doesn't seem as important as getting a line that can win for you as soon as possible when the games count.
I kinda think Dave Gettleman...  
M.S. : 1/2/2019 9:05 pm : link

...just likes the sound of his own voice.

He starts off in voluntary fashion that he and Eli had a no holds barred talk.

OK.

Then he says I'm not going to tell you what we talked about.

OK.

But then he says that he'll do anything for the long-term best interests of this organization.

Huh... why start off that way?

Why not wait and see if any reporter asks about Eli or Eli and the meeting. Or, whatever about Eli.

But nooooooooooooooooo.

He wants to intimate that they had a very serious talk. But Gettleman won't tell you what they said. But then there's the implied threat to Eli's future.

I'll say it again. Huh?

At times, Dave Gettleman can be one insufferable dude.
Joe's Stone Crab?  
Del Shofner : 1/2/2019 9:13 pm : link
"We feel like we’ve turned that corner, especially with this rookie class. (RB) Saquon (Barkley) is unique. I stood up here and you watched me drool all over myself in the pre-draft. It was ugly, wasn’t it? Things happen. I should’ve worn a bib from Joe’s Stone Crab."
RE: Joe's Stone Crab?  
section125 : 1/2/2019 9:40 pm : link
In comment 14245233 Del Shofner said:
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"We feel like we’ve turned that corner, especially with this rookie class. (RB) Saquon (Barkley) is unique. I stood up here and you watched me drool all over myself in the pre-draft. It was ugly, wasn’t it? Things happen. I should’ve worn a bib from Joe’s Stone Crab."


Miami Seafood restaurant. If you like stone crabs, that's the place. tain't cheap, but very good. As you know lobsters and crabs are messy to eat...
RE: I kinda think Dave Gettleman...  
section125 : 1/2/2019 9:47 pm : link
In comment 14245211 M.S. said:
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...just likes the sound of his own voice.

He wants to intimate that they had a very serious talk. But Gettleman won't tell you what they said. But then there's the implied threat to Eli's future.

I'll say it again. Huh?

At times, Dave Gettleman can be one insufferable dude.


Not insufferable at all. Seems pretty straight forward to me. I am comfortable with his style.

As far as Eli, he probably figures it will get out that Eli came in for a meeting. Probably his views on the team and needs. Eli is THE captain, so his opinion is important. The part about taking Gettleman to the low post and beating him is different. Sounds like Eli let him know his feelings on next year and the offense. I doubt Eli talked about teammates.

Anyway, I liked the presser...
Fun to watch the full-time shit stirrers  
David B. : 1/2/2019 9:52 pm : link
ask their asinine, loaded, BS, click-bait questions.

Steve, Pat, Jordaaan, Gary. All the assholes asking the complete asshole questions, and DG telling them all -- very politely: GFY.
M.S.  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/2/2019 11:22 pm : link
finds a way to find misery in fucking everything about this team.

I've seen your posts for the last several years and Gettleman has nothing on you in the insufferable department. How one can be so fucking negative is a mystery.

I particularly liked this post though:

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Great!
K-Gun? Pop-Gun : 5:11 pm : link : reply
Here comes 8-8, and no new franchise QB ever in sight.


Ummm. If we pick a QB, is that magically the "franchise QB"?? What fucking point are you trying to make? That we are missing out on a plethora of franchise QB's?? Because that is just moronic.
Nothing new here...  
bw in dc : 1/2/2019 11:23 pm : link
Gettleman doing his best to be coy and clever - in his mind.

There was nothing interesting about his draft approach. It’s the traditional BPA model. Which is really antiquated because it doesn’t factor in the cost of those first contacts of players who bring unique skills to the table - like QB skills, pass rushing skills, cover skills, and pass blocking skills.

It’s amazing how the Lauletta driving situation sticks in the craw of Jints Central.
RE: M.S.  
M.S. : 1/3/2019 6:21 am : link
In comment 14245380 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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finds a way to find misery in fucking everything about this team.

I've seen your posts for the last several years and Gettleman has nothing on you in the insufferable department. How one can be so fucking negative is a mystery.

I particularly liked this post though:



Quote:


Great!
K-Gun? Pop-Gun : 5:11 pm : link : reply
Here comes 8-8, and no new franchise QB ever in sight.



Ummm. If we pick a QB, is that magically the "franchise QB"?? What fucking point are you trying to make? That we are missing out on a plethora of franchise QB's?? Because that is just moronic.


I don't know whose post this is... but it ain't mine:

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K-Gun? Pop-Gun : 5:11 pm : link : reply
Here comes 8-8, and no new franchise QB ever in sight.
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As for your comment about my post, if you don't like what I write, don't read it. But if you do, at least be honest and avoid characterizing all my comments about the Giants based on your pre-conception of what I have to say.

RE: Gettleman  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/3/2019 6:52 am : link
In comment 14244887 Big_Pete said:
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I really like Gettleman's approach.

Give coaching staff the players he needs and build NYG for sustained success

Collaborative approach with his evaluations, coaching staff evaluations and pro personnel evaluations

Let the emotion of the season pass and then formulate the plan going forward. Be willing to make whatever hard decisions need to be made in the best interest of franchise. Don't be afraid of making mistakes and admit when things didn't work out and make changes. Keep continually improving.

He isn't going to reach for a QB. Just keep taking the best player available.



With respect, I'm not sure how different this is than most GMs. The giants have always been collaborative with their approach to personnel despite what the complaint department on here would like people to think.
This is why he'll probably fail - No QB  
giantstock : 1/3/2019 8:21 am : link
Unless he finds one in Free Agency. SO any team that has for example traded up - they did so based on "need."

He's going t have to get awfully lucks with that attitude because often in 1st 10-12 picks the QB gets selected ahead of value.

I;m fearful that DG is a stubborn/mule-headed and doesn't give a shit about analytics or most important position on the field. Hope I'm wrong.

I do like his ideas of the trenches -- but but but but
sometimes you MUST stretch to get that "elite" QB and he just might be too stubborn to do it unless it is extremely obvious (ie he gets the number1 pick.).
RE: RE: M.S. a reply regarding Fat Man  
giantstock : 1/3/2019 8:32 am : link
In comment 14245446 M.S. said:
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In comment 14245380 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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finds a way to find misery in fucking everything about this team.

I've seen your posts for the last several years and Gettleman has nothing on you in the insufferable department. How one can be so fucking negative is a mystery.

I particularly liked this post though:



Quote:


Great!
K-Gun? Pop-Gun : 5:11 pm : link : reply
Here comes 8-8, and no new franchise QB ever in sight.



Ummm. If we pick a QB, is that magically the "franchise QB"?? What fucking point are you trying to make? That we are missing out on a plethora of franchise QB's?? Because that is just moronic.



I don't know whose post this is... but it ain't mine:

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K-Gun? Pop-Gun : 5:11 pm : link : reply
Here comes 8-8, and no new franchise QB ever in sight.
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As for your comment about my post, if you don't like what I write, don't read it. But if you do, at least be honest and avoid characterizing all my comments about the Giants based on your pre-conception of what I have to say.


He pulled teh same shit on me. I know it's been on more than one occassion but I can' recall other than teh last one.

I suggested that GMen need to try to get a QB as soon as possible because i dont want to waste Barkley's prime and I spoke of getting a QB because the clock is ticking on Barkley. SO I suggested getting a qb ready by 2020 etc and he and other gave a sarcastic reply by implying that I think Barkley only has a THREE YEAR WINDOW.

He made it clear on his 1st reply that he didn't appreciate all the complaints about Eli o I guess he's going to do anything if someone were to complain about ELi to misrepresent what was said.

It's okay to disagree but he and dep - it seems if they dont like what you're saying they'll misrepresent what you say.
I didn't..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/3/2019 8:39 am : link
misrepresent shit.

The 3 year window regarding Barkley was a joke. I never said you gave him a 3-year window - it is the concept that the clock is ticking and we are wasting his prime years - a point that's been brought up ad nauseum since we drafted him, like we are letting the sands of time slip away and barkley will be a shell of himself when we get a QB.

As for MS - the fucking guy can't even tell that I was addressing two SEPARATE points above. One - that almost his entire body of work is negative and is usually a checklist of observations on what we are doing wrong - or some summation of how we need to change management.

The other point was a post by a completely different poster that I lumped together in the post calling out MS.

Next time, I guess I'll just create multiple posts for those with reading comprehension issues.
RE: Great!  
Beer Man : 1/3/2019 8:40 am : link
In comment 14244842 K-Gun? Pop-Gun said:
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Here comes 8-8, and no new franchise QB ever in sight.
Take a look at the QB depth anticipated for 2020. There will be a number of quality QBs in the 2020 draft and the Giants should be able to position their self for one of them. If (as you predict) they finish 8-8, the cost shouldn't be too high to move up (unless they fall in love with one guy (e.g., Tua)).
you guys are so obtuse its pathetic  
Dave on the UWS : 1/3/2019 9:01 am : link
oh and BW is still a jerk with his "Jints central", like he knows better.
Anyone who thinks the draft reality is STRICTLY BPA I've got a bridge to sell you. Just look at the last draft. RB,OL, DL, OLB, backup QB, DL. ALL needed positions. So don't for a second think if they have a QB valued at 6 they won't take him to get another player with a slightly less grade. Gettleman is not stupid. He knows he needs a new QB at some point. He's just not going to force the issue.
RE: you guys are so obtuse its pathetic  
Beer Man : 1/3/2019 9:05 am : link
In comment 14245570 Dave on the UWS said:
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oh and BW is still a jerk with his "Jints central", like he knows better.
Anyone who thinks the draft reality is STRICTLY BPA I've got a bridge to sell you. Just look at the last draft. RB,OL, DL, OLB, backup QB, DL. ALL needed positions. So don't for a second think if they have a QB valued at 6 they won't take him to get another player with a slightly less grade. Gettleman is not stupid. He knows he needs a new QB at some point. He's just not going to force the issue.
Ahhh, wasn't Barkley thought to be the best player in the 2018 draft? (8(0)
My main frustration with Eli  
Jay in Toronto : 1/3/2019 9:11 am : link
is his poor execution on the little flares to the RB in the flat. I think this would augment the use of Barkley especially.

I hope he works on this in the offseason, but it's been chronic. Do the Giants still use a psychologist? Maybe it's a Chuck Knoblach kinda thing.
RE: RE: Joe's Stone Crab?  
Jay in Toronto : 1/3/2019 9:12 am : link
In comment 14245268 section125 said:
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In comment 14245233 Del Shofner said:


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"We feel like we’ve turned that corner, especially with this rookie class. (RB) Saquon (Barkley) is unique. I stood up here and you watched me drool all over myself in the pre-draft. It was ugly, wasn’t it? Things happen. I should’ve worn a bib from Joe’s Stone Crab."



Miami Seafood restaurant. If you like stone crabs, that's the place. tain't cheap, but very good. As you know lobsters and crabs are messy to eat...


Ever since his conversion .... ;)
Nassib, Webb, Lauletta.....  
Doomster : 1/3/2019 9:18 am : link
Giants have this habit of not knowing what their backups are capable of doing......

If I see another QB drafted in the later rounds , and we keep 3 qbs, wasting a roster spot, I'll freak out.....

Unfortunately, we have no true Idea of what DG, and Shurm, truly bring to the table.....that takes years to find out.....

If they fail, we will have the posters that say I told you so.....if they succeed, we will have posters that say I told you so....better hope the latter ones are right.....
If you actually have the opportunity to find out what your backups  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/3/2019 9:33 am : link
can do, it means something catastrophic happened.

It's not something anyone should really look forward to.

and I don't think preseason snaps count as 'finding out what he's capable of'.
Flawed Conclusions  
Angus : 1/3/2019 10:39 am : link
The Giants scored a lot in garbage time that, in my mind, has allowed for the propagation of two false conclusions:

1. The Giants were in more games (lost by less than seven points) than they were really in.

2. That the Giants scored more points than the other teams in the NFC East should also be taken with a grain of salt - there were a lot of cheap, end of game points.

I think that is important, because they still need to improve the O-line some, not just get better on defense. I would have not objection to a really good safety or a game changing linebacker, but at least another high value OT is needed here as well.

Beyond flawed conclusions - Eli played better as the season went on, but he still has too many bonehead throws. Not as many as the never will quarterbacks in the league, but too many for a 15 year vet. Assuming Eli will be back, if Shurmur is to have at least some success with Eli (get into the playoffs and win some post season games), they have to find a way for him not to force the ball into triple coverage when settling for 3 points is a better choice.
DGs words reinforce why mock drafts by the ‘experts’ are just dumb.  
Spider56 : 1/3/2019 10:47 am : link
Invariably the so called experts fit their version of player ranking vs team needs ... there’s no way anyone can know individual team assessments on players. The professional draft gurus are all con artists.
A hint..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/3/2019 10:55 am : link
might be to get out of your mind and look at stats:

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Flawed Conclusions
Angus : 10:39 am : link : reply
The Giants scored a lot in garbage time that, in my mind, has allowed for the propagation of two false conclusions:


The Giants scored among the least amount of "garbage points" in the league. Those are points that are scored when a team is behind by two scores or more.

A better question to ask is what season were you watching? The giants gave up 4th quarter leads in 7 games - none of which were garbage time games.
The press asked the same Eli question ten different ways  
since1925 : 1/3/2019 11:05 am : link
Just hoping for some headline. There are a ton of questions they should have asked instead of the same one over and over.

His most interesting answer was about last year's locker room.
It's  
AcidTest : 1/3/2019 11:08 am : link
still a long way to go until the draft, but I expect it to be mostly about the defense and OL, along with another day three QB. The wild card would be taking a QB in the first after trading down, or in the second. I also expect us to add a FA OL who can start.
Eli and quarterback  
INDYJIM : 1/3/2019 11:23 am : link
The only issue is , is there a better option than Manning for quarterback either in the draft or in free agency. (a substantial upgrade?) If not, they will stay with Eli until there is and work to improve both lines and the defense backfield.
RE: Great!  
SterlingArcher : 1/3/2019 11:24 am : link
In comment 14244842 K-Gun? Pop-Gun said:
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Here comes 8-8, and no new franchise QB ever in sight.
You know if the Giants draft a qb the first INT he throws you will be screaming he's a bust, why didn't they draft XYZ!
RE: A hint..  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/3/2019 11:28 am : link
In comment 14245832 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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might be to get out of your mind and look at stats:



Quote:


Flawed Conclusions
Angus : 10:39 am : link : reply
The Giants scored a lot in garbage time that, in my mind, has allowed for the propagation of two false conclusions:



The Giants scored among the least amount of "garbage points" in the league. Those are points that are scored when a team is behind by two scores or more.

A better question to ask is what season were you watching? The giants gave up 4th quarter leads in 7 games - none of which were garbage time games.


The defense held opponents to 23 points or less in 8 games. League average scoring in the NFL is 25ppg.

5 of those games were losses. That's not good enough either. There's enough blame to go around on both sides of the ball.
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