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DanMetroMan : 1/2/2019 3:45 pm
-Passan says the Mets never made an actual 4 year 60 million dollar offer as the LA Times is reporting. He says they had "discussions" with Grandal regarding potential deals but never made a firm offer.

-"Many" teams reportedly calling about Lugo... KEEP.

- Passan also says the Mets likely won't sign Pollock.. for some reason they feel they must trade Nimmo or Conforto if they sign Pollock (they reportedly considered trading one of them in general but have backed off) which would make you believe they felt they would be getting a big return from Cespedes... HOWEVER... today

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"If he gives us anything this year, that is great, we're happy for that," Minaya said.

So we are again back to questioning finances
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RE: My one question is  
Eric on Li : 1/4/2019 10:41 am : link
In comment 14247085 Shecky said:
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Why has this been PUBLICLY been discussed for over six months now, when instead it could privately be taken advantage of?


instead of 'play like a champion' mets front office has a 'leave no excuse unsaid' sign.
RE: & just to be clear I believe the underlying fact that citi is weird  
pjcas18 : 1/4/2019 10:43 am : link
In comment 14247089 Eric on Li said:
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and somehow harder for players to hit in (hence the lower exit velo). I just would prefer to see them try to figure out how to turn that to their advantage vs. do something that could negatively impact the strength of the team (pitching). Over the last several years of Sandy's tenure they were near the top of the league in HR's and K's but very low in runs scored. I don't think it's a stretch to say that may have just been a misguided philosophy.


Right, like build your roster to maximize pitching (starters and bullpen) and defense.

take advantage of the low exit velo.

that type of roster wouldn't really suffer on the road.
I  
DanMetroMan : 1/4/2019 10:46 am : link
know people get tired of me citing numbers but the truth is the Mets simply haven't had many good offensive players the past few seasons. Ballpark is almost secondary. 2018 really only Conforto, Nimmo and 1/2 of Cabrera really represented "good offense" among regulars. We can chop and slice this all we want but they got garbage offensive output at 1b, C, SS, 3b and 1 OF spot. Very hard to win games that way.
exactly - and we know the terrible defense has been devesating  
Eric on Li : 1/4/2019 10:48 am : link
to this team over the past 3-4 years. They have lost more runs there than just about any team in the league. So they started every single game with that handicap tilted away from them along with whatever other handicap they had at home offensively due to the exit velo. Almost every other team came into our stadium with an advantage over us purely because of better defense.
RE: I  
Eric on Li : 1/4/2019 10:50 am : link
In comment 14247103 DanMetroMan said:
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know people get tired of me citing numbers but the truth is the Mets simply haven't had many good offensive players the past few seasons. Ballpark is almost secondary. 2018 really only Conforto, Nimmo and 1/2 of Cabrera really represented "good offense" among regulars. We can chop and slice this all we want but they got garbage offensive output at 1b, C, SS, 3b and 1 OF spot. Very hard to win games that way.


that's definitely true too. Forget the last few years even going back to citi opening. Above average hitters for their positions the home team for multiple seasons - Wright, Murphy, Cespedes, Granderson, Conforto, end of list?
RE: RE: I  
DanMetroMan : 1/4/2019 10:58 am : link
In comment 14247109 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 14247103 DanMetroMan said:


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know people get tired of me citing numbers but the truth is the Mets simply haven't had many good offensive players the past few seasons. Ballpark is almost secondary. 2018 really only Conforto, Nimmo and 1/2 of Cabrera really represented "good offense" among regulars. We can chop and slice this all we want but they got garbage offensive output at 1b, C, SS, 3b and 1 OF spot. Very hard to win games that way.



that's definitely true too. Forget the last few years even going back to citi opening. Above average hitters for their positions the home team for multiple seasons - Wright, Murphy, Cespedes, Granderson, Conforto, end of list?


This is where the "good" teams take advantage. The Astros had 7 players in their lineup with 100+ wRC+, + Stassi 97, and Reddick 99. So they essentially had 9 players going out there every day who could hit and THEN they had Kemp post a 108 OPS+ over 97 games and White 143 over 66. The Mets had Nimmo, Wilmer (gone), Cabrera (half season), Conforto, Bautista (half season and gone), Mesoraco (half season and gone) and McNeil 1/3 season but absolute garbage players like Jackson, Reyes, Gonzalez saw SIGNIFICANT run and Jay Bruce was trash
...  
Jay on the Island : 1/4/2019 11:08 am : link
There are rumors that the Nationals have offered Harper "significantly more" than their original offer. Their original offer was reportedly 10 years 300 million.
Annnnnnd Boras is off  
Shecky : 1/4/2019 11:27 am : link
Lol
.  
DanMetroMan : 1/4/2019 1:16 pm : link
Nelson Cruz was traded for noted luminaries Jorge Velandia (Mets) and Keith Ginter (A's) before collecting a single PA, post age-27 season... 22 career homers, now has a better than 50% chance of clearing 400 by the time his career is over. Pretty amazing. #Mets
RE: ...  
moze1021 : 1/4/2019 1:39 pm : link
In comment 14247144 Jay on the Island said:
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There are rumors that the Nationals have offered Harper "significantly more" than their original offer. Their original offer was reportedly 10 years 300 million.


Adding Harper or Machado would be 1 pretty quick way to increase Mets average exit velocity at Citi... if that's the KPI we're going by today.. haha
Mets  
DanMetroMan : 1/5/2019 11:33 am : link
sign Hector Santiago.

Santiago doesn't have strong numbers vs. lefties so he's not a LOOGY option. Looks like Syracuse SP depth to me. If so, while not especially good, he's still potentially an "upgrade" over guys like Conlon #Mets
MLB  
DanMetroMan : 1/5/2019 12:54 pm : link
deal... not a fan
long man  
CMicks3110 : 1/5/2019 12:56 pm : link
mets need depth, makes sense, would have preferred MiL deal though too. Hopefully it's only 1-2 million.
Duquette said  
CMicks3110 : 1/5/2019 12:57 pm : link
the Mets almost landed Griffey, that 2000 lineup would have been insane.
RE: Mets  
Shecky : 1/5/2019 1:17 pm : link
In comment 14248096 DanMetroMan said:
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sign Hector Santiago.

Santiago doesn't have strong numbers vs. lefties so he's not a LOOGY option. Looks like Syracuse SP depth to me. If so, while not especially good, he's still potentially an "upgrade" over guys like Conlon #Mets


I LOVE this signing!!
Keon Broxton  
Pete in MD : 1/5/2019 1:40 pm : link
to the Mets.
RE: Keon Broxton  
Shecky : 1/5/2019 1:43 pm : link
In comment 14248226 Pete in MD said:
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to the Mets.

And HATE this trade :(
Brodie listens to me  
DanMetroMan : 1/5/2019 1:48 pm : link
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Maybe he's just not particularly good but if the Brewers are shopping Broxton I'd be interested. Still only 28, RH, 11 DRS in CF in 2018, he's not the "answer" for this lineup but I'd buy low https://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=9253&position=OF #Mets
Broxton seems like a good  
CMicks3110 : 1/5/2019 1:49 pm : link
defensive player, replaces Lagares if he is traded. 1.5 war player, one of the fastest players in the game. While is average is low, his OPS is reasonably for a defensive specialist.
Broxton isn't a free agent  
CMicks3110 : 1/5/2019 1:50 pm : link
until 2023, so he can be Lagares without that contract for a long time, and hopefully be healthier. That's not invaluable.
btw dan  
CMicks3110 : 1/5/2019 1:51 pm : link
Brodie has said he does read people's twitter messages, and from his conversations with the media, I believe him. The guy seems wired into everything. So maybe you did raise an eyebrow
Broxton is more than a defensive specialist  
Shecky : 1/5/2019 1:54 pm : link
Hes a superstar, who cant make contact with the ball... kind of an important facet to the game. And streaky as can be.

Pouring a 49 for Hill :(
RE: btw dan  
DanMetroMan : 1/5/2019 1:57 pm : link
In comment 14248235 CMicks3110 said:
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Brodie has said he does read people's twitter messages, and from his conversations with the media, I believe him. The guy seems wired into everything. So maybe you did raise an eyebrow


If you really think about it... why not? Some players or stats may be overlooked until brought to your attention. It wouldn't be truly absurd. It's not like I'm claiming to be a scout lol
Like but dont love this deal - but this type of move was needed  
Eric on Li : 1/5/2019 2:08 pm : link
Id have preferred someone who can make contact, but the price doesnt seem all that high, hes cheap, and now they have insurance for whenever Lagares gets hurt. And a pinch runner. Let him and Lagares compete for CF and may the best man win. Speed and defense on the upswing.

Jmo but this type of move + spending $20m per year is better than pollock. Though obviously the critical part of that equation is spending the 20m elsewhere.
RE: MLB  
SJGiant : 1/5/2019 2:26 pm : link
In comment 14248170 DanMetroMan said:
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deal... not a fan


According to Metsblog, this signing is a minor league deal.
Metsblog - ( New Window )
Grandal to Brewers  
Ssanders9816 : 1/9/2019 11:12 pm : link
One year deal
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