one who can extend a play and a drive are important, and that's what you get these days getting a new one."
This was his response to a question Mike Francesca asked him in regards to Eli and how important having a mobile QB is to running his offense. Shurmur also mentioned the zone read and how having an elusive QB brings that dimension to an offense.
It's going to be interesting to see what the Giants do this offseason at the QB position.
Someone can link the the segment in this thread for others to listen. I'm busy listening to Eli on currently.
Yep. Way too selective:
"I'm fond of QBs that can move around, but you have to be able to throw the ball from the pocket to have success in the league."
Shurmer - ( New Window )
This.
He also said you win from the pocket and that Eli can still get it done but you have to play his brand and protect him.
Shurmur Interview on the FAN - ( New Window )
Not really. Even by adding "you win from the pocket", he's still describing all the top QBs in the league not named Tom and Eli.
Hell, even The Rapist has more elusiveness than Eli, if not just because of his size.
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and your premise of the thread is selective quoting to perhaps suit your preferences. He also said that it was important to be a pocket passer.
Not really. Even by adding "you win from the pocket", he's still describing all the top QBs in the league not named Tom and Eli.
Hell, even The Rapist has more elusiveness than Eli, if not just because of his size.
Then how come Shurmur said (not in this interview but the end of season presser) that they had more naked boots and designed rollouts for Eli than he has done his entire professional career? Seems odd to design/call plays leveraging a skillset that BBI says Manning doesn't have. Hmmmm...
It's hard to compare Brady and Eli because of the olines, but Brady moves around pretty well in the pocket. He does avoid defenders, but no one would call him a mobile QB.
In terms of Brady, they do it differently in NE. They spread you out with quick receivers with sure hands who run precise routes and can take the tough hit without dropping the ball. The ball comes out quick and timing is tough to stop. They take shots down field, but scheme their opportunities.
OH MY GOD!!! THE WRITING IS ON THE WALL!!! ELI IS GOING TO RETIRE!!! WHAT WILL WE DOOOOOOOOOO!
FOLES! BRISSETTE! BRIDGEWATER! LOL!ETTA!
ARRRRRRGGGGHHHHHH!!!
Great job by the OP to take the quote out of context. Well done.
Good lord.
OH MY GOD!!! THE WRITING IS ON THE WALL!!! ELI IS GOING TO RETIRE!!! WHAT WILL WE DOOOOOOOOOO!
FOLES! BRISSETTE! BRIDGEWATER! LOL!ETTA!
ARRRRRRGGGGHHHHHH!!!
Great job by the OP to take the quote out of context. Well done.
Good lord.
Whether it's out of context or not, the writing is in fact on the wall, just open your damn eyes...Alex Tanney will lead this franchise to greener pastures!
Yep. I look forward to Trick-Shot Tanney bouncing the Duke off the parabolic microphone on the sideline into the hands of OBJ.
Big thing with Shurmur is establishing a dominant run game to make play action effective - he is constantly repeating that theme
Big thing with Shurmur is establishing a dominant run game to make play action effective - he is constantly repeating that theme
To clarify (I know what you meant, but it reads odd) - the designed naked boots and rollouts were executed with greater frequency "to change the launch point" than any point in his professional career. The last time he has done it as frequently was at Ole Miss.
Gil, who writes for NFL.com, has always been considered to be one of the premier talent evaluators in the league, but he is getting older.
He picked the Giants to be the 2nd most likely to win its division next year.
Surprising to me, he thinks that Manning has two good years left in him and the Giants should assemble some more good players around him.
Manning didn't play especially poorly in 2018. - ( New Window )
Have been "mobile QBs" ?
I can only think of two Steve Young & Russell Wilson.
"rocket surgery" - I think you started a trend. I like it. Well done.
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yes, you want a guy who is a strong pocket passer, but, if the pocket collapses, you also want that guy to be able to escape and make a play out of the pocket.
"rocket surgery" - I think you started a trend. I like it. Well done.
He does okay on planned rollouts.
Yep, they are going to trade him to Kansas City ... wait a minute that was the 49ers and Joe Montana.
Aha - I have it - he's going to Jacksonville.
Then how come Shurmur said (not in this interview but the end of season presser) that they had more naked boots and designed rollouts for Eli than he has done his entire professional career? Seems odd to design/call plays leveraging a skillset that BBI says Manning doesn't have. Hmmmm...
No, it is not odd. You still need to call those plays so the defenses have something else to prepare for. Does not matter whether Eli can be highly successful at naked boots. One of the many mistakes that prior OCs have done was to make it easier for defenses by the limitations of the play calling.
It is no different than an occasional fake punt. If you do it 2 times per season, then the opposing special teams will absolutely change the way they come after your punter. Side note - we had Brad Maynard who apparently ran a 4.5 or something close to that and we never attempted it a single time with him back there.
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Then how come Shurmur said (not in this interview but the end of season presser) that they had more naked boots and designed rollouts for Eli than he has done his entire professional career? Seems odd to design/call plays leveraging a skillset that BBI says Manning doesn't have. Hmmmm...
No, it is not odd. You still need to call those plays so the defenses have something else to prepare for. Does not matter whether Eli can be highly successful at naked boots. One of the many mistakes that prior OCs have done was to make it easier for defenses by the limitations of the play calling.
It is no different than an occasional fake punt. If you do it 2 times per season, then the opposing special teams will absolutely change the way they come after your punter. Side note - we had Brad Maynard who apparently ran a 4.5 or something close to that and we never attempted it a single time with him back there.
Your sarcasm detector must be off.
now there's a sentence that will prop you up...