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CMicks3110 : 1/2/2019 10:38 pm
interesting article from 538 on what we all think it means to be a man. The most interesting part was the things men worry about most day-to-day:

Your weight 54%
Your finances 53%
Your physical health 49%
Your physique 33 %
Your ability to provide for your family 32 %
Your mental health 32 %
Sexual performance or amount of sex 23 %
Your hair or hairline 19 %
Your clothing or style 18 %
Appearance of your genitalia 13 %
Your height 6 %
None of the above 13%
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-do-men-think-it-means-to-be-a-man/?ex_cid=story-twitter&fbclid=IwAR1zsSVifsk1Qan3No9RGjjhE1N0L_WnFbGdHBfiQa8eDshnMRy98MPmSHw - ( New Window )
I am absolutely amazed  
montanagiant : 1/2/2019 11:54 pm : link
that providing for a family, being a good husband and father, or building a career is not on there at all
That and a pair of testicles  
myquealer : 1/3/2019 12:24 am : link
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RE: I am absolutely amazed  
Mr. Bungle : 1/3/2019 12:27 am : link
In comment 14245404 montanagiant said:
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that providing for a family, being a good husband and father, or building a career is not on there at all

"Your ability to provide for your family 32%"
montanagiant  
myquealer : 1/3/2019 12:27 am : link
"Your ability to provide for your family 32%"
Whoops, sorry  
montanagiant : 1/3/2019 1:08 am : link
I did not see that my bad. Thanks for pointing it out
Your ability to read - 1 person  
SHO'NUFF : 1/3/2019 2:22 am : link






I kid, I kid!
Appearance of Genitalia?  
Jim in Tampa : 1/3/2019 5:32 am : link
LOL. Why worry about that?

I mean by the time your genitalia makes an appearance, you're in. I can't imagine it would be a deal breaker.
No Fantasy Football?  
ZogZerg : 1/3/2019 6:21 am : link
What kind of guys did they ask?
#1 on my worry list  
Les in TO : 1/3/2019 6:28 am : link
Is raising kids to be healthy and happy in a much more complicated world compared to when I was a kid.
RE: Appearance of Genitalia?  
Blue21 : 1/3/2019 7:06 am : link
In comment 14245439 Jim in Tampa said:
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LOL. Why worry about that?

I mean by the time your genitalia makes an appearance, you're in. I can't imagine it would be a deal breaker.


I agree. We don't call it our junk for nothing.
RE: That and a pair of testicles  
cjac : 1/3/2019 7:40 am : link
In comment 14245412 myquealer said:
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Is it being prepared to do the right thing, whatever the cost? Isn't that what makes a man?
Your clothing or style?  
pjcas18 : 1/3/2019 7:43 am : link
18%? Pretty sure they polled a lot of millennials. I've heard the phrase the clothes make the man, but that's always something pushed by the advertising and marketing departments of the clothes manufacturers.

My generation judges a man by the amount of alcohol he can consume.

this list is done by a bunch of pussies. hairline? clothes? weight? money? health? what a joke.




How about honor, dignity, keeping your word?  
GiantsUA : 1/3/2019 8:10 am : link
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RE: How about honor, dignity, keeping your word?  
section125 : 1/3/2019 8:14 am : link
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But, but, but those are difficult things to maintain.....
Priorities are out of whack.  
Giant John : 1/3/2019 8:38 am : link
Maybe thatís why the world is a mess.
RE: How about honor, dignity, keeping your word?  
j_rud : 1/3/2019 8:42 am : link
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That was my first thought too, integrity is nowhere on that list. Also funny/sad that 42% of men ages 18-34 take their cues from pop culture.
Integrity would top my list...  
x meadowlander : 1/3/2019 8:48 am : link
...and frankly, it's alarming that it's not on there.

We're living on a ship of fekkin' RATS.
A vessel for seagoing snitches  
Dunedin81 : 1/3/2019 8:56 am : link
...
Their soul is dead!  
GiantsUA : 1/3/2019 9:04 am : link
If I was the man...
RE: Appearance of Genitalia?  
NoPeanutz : 1/3/2019 9:23 am : link
In comment 14245439 Jim in Tampa said:
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LOL. Why worry about that?

I mean by the time your genitalia makes an appearance, you're in. I can't imagine it would be a deal breaker.

Humble brag from Mr. NormalLookingGenitalia over here
RE: Appearance of Genitalia?  
Jay on the Island : 1/3/2019 9:31 am : link
In comment 14245439 Jim in Tampa said:
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LOL. Why worry about that?

I mean by the time your genitalia makes an appearance, you're in. I can't imagine it would be a deal breaker.

They call it "bumping uglies" for a reason.
Difference between a man and a boy  
Carl in CT : 1/3/2019 1:45 pm : link
A man can take care of himself. If your 35 and live at home and mommy and daddy take care of you your still a boy no matter the age.
"What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?"  
Greg from LI : 1/3/2019 1:46 pm : link
"Is it doing the right thing, no matter the cost?"

"Well, yeah, that and a pair of testicles. Mind if a do a J?"
So 210 men  
Pete in MD : 1/3/2019 1:57 pm : link
(13% of 1,615), said the thing that they worry about most on a daily basis is what their junk looks like? I'm not sure there's any help for them.
RE: So 210 men  
section125 : 1/3/2019 2:01 pm : link
In comment 14246127 Pete in MD said:
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(13% of 1,615), said the thing that they worry about most on a daily basis is what their junk looks like? I'm not sure there's any help for them.


Hmm, I'm only worried about what my wife thinks of my junk...FWIW
size of your gun?  
spike : 1/3/2019 4:51 pm : link
make of your vehicle?
And a bunch  
Pete in MD : 1/3/2019 4:57 pm : link
of adult men worry about their height? Put that in the "things you can't change" category and move on. The NBA isn't calling the vast majority of us.
RE: And a bunch  
Anakim : 1/3/2019 5:00 pm : link
In comment 14246458 Pete in MD said:
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of adult men worry about their height? Put that in the "things you can't change" category and move on. The NBA isn't calling the vast majority of us.


I definitely do. I'm 5'9 and while it could be worse, it could be much better. I have used dating apps in the past and I can't tell you how many girls state flat-out that they have a height threshold. They could be a fucking midget and still won't "settle" for any guy less than 6'.
Men?  
B in ALB : 1/3/2019 5:02 pm : link
Sounds like they polled a bunch of metro-millenial douchebags. Physique? Weight at #1? Clothing style? JFC.
RE: Men?  
Anakim : 1/3/2019 5:07 pm : link
In comment 14246465 B in ALB said:
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Sounds like they polled a bunch of metro-millenial douchebags. Physique? Weight at #1? Clothing style? JFC.


Gotta agree. Clothing style? I'm 28, but call me old-fashioned: what happened to the days where men didn't know what the fuck to wear and couldn't be paid to go shopping? And now you're less of a man if you have no fashion sense?

Physique? Weight? Al Bundy, Archie Bunker, Peter Griffin, Homer Simpson and tons of other traditionally virile men would like to have a word...
Integrity in N/A for things you worry about  
jcp56 : 1/3/2019 6:15 pm : link
you either have it, or you don't. You don't worry about it.
RE: RE: And a bunch  
Pete in MD : 1/3/2019 6:59 pm : link
In comment 14246464 Anakim said:
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of adult men worry about their height? Put that in the "things you can't change" category and move on. The NBA isn't calling the vast majority of us.



I definitely do. I'm 5'9 and while it could be worse, it could be much better. I have used dating apps in the past and I can't tell you how many girls state flat-out that they have a height threshold. They could be a fucking midget and still won't "settle" for any guy less than 6'.

Why worry about something you canít change? Due to my age and having met my wife relatively early in life, I just missed the on-line dating scene so I donít understand it at all. That said, any woman who absolutely wouldnít date a man based on his height alone is not someone you want to pursue anyway. Obviously, it is natural to stress about our own insecurities but when you literally canít do anything to change something, why waste mental time on it? There are many things you can change about yourself on that list. Height and junk are not two of them.
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Anakim : 1/3/2019 7:35 pm : link
In comment 14246565 Pete in MD said:
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In comment 14246464 Anakim said:


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In comment 14246458 Pete in MD said:


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of adult men worry about their height? Put that in the "things you can't change" category and move on. The NBA isn't calling the vast majority of us.



I definitely do. I'm 5'9 and while it could be worse, it could be much better. I have used dating apps in the past and I can't tell you how many girls state flat-out that they have a height threshold. They could be a fucking midget and still won't "settle" for any guy less than 6'.


Why worry about something you canít change? Due to my age and having met my wife relatively early in life, I just missed the on-line dating scene so I donít understand it at all. That said, any woman who absolutely wouldnít date a man based on his height alone is not someone you want to pursue anyway. Obviously, it is natural to stress about our own insecurities but when you literally canít do anything to change something, why waste mental time on it? There are many things you can change about yourself on that list. Height and junk are not two of them.


True. I do understand that but it's when the insecurities and the depression overlap. Like seeing the 6'3 guy get the girl of your dreams even though he's a douche and is dumb as a box of rocks. That kind of stuff.
That's not  
Pete in MD : 1/3/2019 8:35 pm : link
the kind of girl you want. And don't worry about being single, when you hit 35, if you have a good job, and are not more than 40 pounds overweight, it's like shooting fish in a barrel (from what my single/divorced friends tell me.)
I'm a hair under 5'7"  
Greg from LI : 1/3/2019 8:39 pm : link
I would like to be taller, sure, but since I can't do anything about it I don't spend a lot of time thinking about it.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/3/2019 8:42 pm : link
Can't speak for the entire gender, but it breaks down like this for me:

Your weight: 0%.
Your finances: 10%.
Your physical health: 20%
Your physique: 0%.
Your ability to provide for your family: 35%.
Your mental health: 35%.
Sexual performance or amount of sex:
Your hair or hairline: 0%.
Your clothing or style: 0%.
Appearance of your genitalia: 0%.
Your height: 0%.
None of the above: 0%.
Height is weird  
Pete in MD : 1/3/2019 9:12 pm : link
in my family. Everyone is around 6 feet tall. For the men, that's a little above average, for the women it is quite tall. My sister's husband is two inches shorter than her.
To be clear  
Gregorio : 1/3/2019 9:34 pm : link
That list reflects what men worry about. It does not reflect what men think it means to be a man . Two very different meanings.

The responses in this thread indicate not many understood the difference.
RE: To be clear  
Pete in MD : 1/3/2019 9:53 pm : link
In comment 14246694 Gregorio said:
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That list reflects what men worry about. It does not reflect what men think it means to be a man . Two very different meanings.

The responses in this thread indicate not many understood the difference.

What it means to be a man is very simple. The discussion became more philosophical. I'm pretty sure most of us understood the difference, except for you. Thanks for stopping by.
RE: I'm a hair under 5'7  
Anakim : 1/4/2019 1:13 am : link
In comment 14246646 Greg from LI said:
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I would like to be taller, sure, but since I can't do anything about it I don't spend a lot of time thinking about it.


Yeah, but you compensate in other ways...like being pessimistic and cynical and a Rebel :)
RE: RE: To be clear  
Gregorio : 1/4/2019 8:46 am : link
In comment 14246712 Pete in MD said:
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. I'm pretty sure most of us understood the difference, except for you. Thanks for stopping by.


I understand it just fine. Many of the responses here indicate many were misguided by the thread title. The definition of masculinity is lamented because it is not on the worry list.

Many men have a very good basis for what it means to be a man, and that is not at the top of our worry list.




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