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Teddy Bridgewater - What Happened on Sunday?

ZogZerg : 1/3/2019 9:03 am
Is BBI still on the Teddy Bridgewater bandwagon or has that died down after he sucked it up on Sunday?

14/22, 118 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT

The Saints actually rushed for 184 yards in the game.

Meanwhile, the Panthers backup - Kyle Allen - put up a good show:

16/27, 228, 2TDs, 0 INT

It was..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/3/2019 9:04 am : link
basically a glorified scrimmage. Not sure anything can be taken away from it.
He was crappy  
YAJ2112 : 1/3/2019 9:04 am : link
as expected.
Just like you cannot go by what Lauletta did in garbage time vs Wash  
Jints in Carolina : 1/3/2019 9:05 am : link
you can't really read too much into Bridgewater's performance.
Not a fair assessment at all  
Ssanders9816 : 1/3/2019 9:09 am : link
Played with some backups...with nothing to play for
Yeah, Saints didn't need to win  
ZogZerg : 1/3/2019 9:12 am : link
But, I think the only backups that played were TB and a RB who gained close to 100 yards. At least in the first half, where the Saints didn't score. They sat Brees and Kamara for the game.

I dunno why people hype this guy  
chuckydee9 : 1/3/2019 9:15 am : link
I have yet to see him perform at a level of a franchise QB.. and if you aren't a Franchise QB then you may as well be horrible..
Don't think so?  
Doomster : 1/3/2019 9:22 am : link
Just like you cannot go by what Lauletta did in garbage time vs Wash
Jints in Carolina : 9:05 am : link : reply
you can't really read too much into Bridgewater's performance.

One guy played a couple series....the other a whole game....don't think you get more insight from the guy who played the whole game?
RE: Don't think so?  
Jints in Carolina : 1/3/2019 9:24 am : link
In comment 14245608 Doomster said:
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Just like you cannot go by what Lauletta did in garbage time vs Wash
Jints in Carolina : 9:05 am : link : reply
you can't really read too much into Bridgewater's performance.

One guy played a couple series....the other a whole game....don't think you get more insight from the guy who played the whole game?


Just my opinion.
bridgewater  
jurban : 1/3/2019 9:26 am : link
the important thing with him is how will those knees hold up during a full season...they have not really been tested...I would not chance it with him...sorry
They still played  
Jay on the Island : 1/3/2019 9:26 am : link
Michael Thomas and Ingram.
He hasn't played in a game  
GiantsRage2007 : 1/3/2019 9:27 am : link
In forever... not sure what people were expecting
He is not what is  
section125 : 1/3/2019 9:31 am : link
needed on the Giants.
He is being hyped  
upstatenyg : 1/3/2019 9:33 am : link
A - is one of the few qb's who may be available that has actually started an NFL game before

B - is viewed as a new Era mobile type qb

C - has a relationship with Schurmur from days at Minny

And played this season along side Brees and Sean Payton

There is a lot to hype him about even if he sucks.

I want TB to be good  
Jint Fan in Buc Land : 1/3/2019 9:34 am : link
If for no other reason it helps the QB market that we'll be in. That said if you're being objective it's hard to get excited about him. Even if you discount Sunday what has he accomplished? And if he's so great will New Orleans let him walk when Brees is almost 100 years old?
I think what his performance did  
gmen9892 : 1/3/2019 9:42 am : link
Was at least lower his price tag a bit. If the Giants were to move on from Eli, I think a 2 year deal for Teddy B at a reasonable price would be a solid option. He is nothing spectacular, but he is more mobile than Eli at this point.
People on BBI never change their opinions, so nothing will change  
PatersonPlank : 1/3/2019 9:45 am : link
Facts don't matter
If Bridgewater..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/3/2019 9:50 am : link
is being hyped as a new era mobile QB, then I'd expect people are making that distinction solely because of his skin color.

He's not really a mobile QB.
RE: If Bridgewater..  
Jay on the Island : 1/3/2019 9:55 am : link
In comment 14245681 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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is being hyped as a new era mobile QB, then I'd expect people are making that distinction solely because of his skin color.

He's not really a mobile QB.

The same was said about Geno Smith coming out of college. People equated his 40 time and skin color to being a mobile quarterback. Bridgewater should only be an option for the Giants if Eli has retired or been released and they are either drafting Haskins at 6 and need a stopgap or they are targeting a QB in 2020 and need a stop gap.
Jay..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/3/2019 9:57 am : link
Yep. Happens a lot. Byron Leftwich was another. Even Andre Woodson was - although he never really got under center.
RE: If Bridgewater..  
Beezer : 1/3/2019 9:57 am : link
In comment 14245681 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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is being hyped as a new era mobile QB, then I'd expect people are making that distinction solely because of his skin color.

He's not really a mobile QB.


And holy hell, why would any team want that guy to be "mobile," outside of the necessary pocket "mobility?" Dude could be one scramble/linebacker hit from retirement.
I read these "how about Bridgewater" threads  
Beezer : 1/3/2019 10:03 am : link
actually shaking my head. People forget.

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Dan Cooper knows Teddy Bridgewater's heart like few people do, because Cooper cut open the quarterback's leg on Sept. 8, 2016, when pro football's most stunning comeback began inside a Dallas clinic.

Amputation was no longer a feared possibility, and yet what the surgeon faced that day was something one might see on the set of a sci-fi film.

"It was just a horribly grotesque injury," Cooper said.

The good doctor was talking about the quarterback's left knee, which had exploded without warning nine days earlier while Bridgewater was dropping back to pass, untouched, in a Minnesota Vikings practice.

"It's mangled," Cooper said. "You make the skin incision, and there's nothing there. It's almost like a war wound. Everything is blown."


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This is NOT the guy anyone here should be touting as a replacement for one of the most durable QBs in league history who just finished what I believe was, at least, a pretty solid season, all things considered.
There's optimism. Then there's reality. - ( New Window )
I think that game didnt help his value  
5BowlsSoon : 1/3/2019 10:06 am : link
Not sure how much it hurt though. Teams needing a qb, like us and Denver now are probably fidgeting a little because he didnt wow anyone with that performance. Yes, it was not under optimal circumstances, but he did have enough quality players surrounding him to have done better.
Bridgewater seems like a great guy.  
Beezer : 1/3/2019 10:06 am : link
With an amazing story and comeback, to this stage. Good luck to him!

But is this the guy Giants fans want to land on after turning the page from the franchise's all-time best QB?

Not me.
A little more of the same. - ( New Window )
If quarterback is not  
joeinpa : 1/3/2019 10:09 am : link
Drafted, Eli s best option. Even then Eli should play next season.
Even if he had wowed in that "meaningless game,"  
Beezer : 1/3/2019 10:09 am : link
say, with a win, and a 28/33 for 362 yards and 3 TDs performance ...

Why would the Giants want to take that risk?
Post injury, is any knowledgeable insider excited about Bridgewater?  
Ivan15 : 1/3/2019 10:10 am : link
Just asking!
Who was the QB a few years ago who threw like 6 tds  
DC Gmen Fan : 1/3/2019 10:10 am : link
in a meaningless game, some team threw a huge contract at him and then he sucked?
RE: Who was the QB a few years ago who threw like 6 tds  
Beezer : 1/3/2019 10:11 am : link
In comment 14245728 DC Gmen Fan said:
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in a meaningless game, some team threw a huge contract at him and then he sucked?


I believe it was Matt Flynn.
What will..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/3/2019 10:12 am : link
be interesting is to see what NO's plans are for Bridgewater. Was he a one-year backup or is he part of a succession plan?

At this point Bridgewater's value is low, and that's not said to suggest we should make a play for him - it is to suggest that there isn't a lot of interest in the league for him in regards to being a starter.
Fats ...  
Beezer : 1/3/2019 10:14 am : link
don't you think SOMEone is going to get stars in the eyes and over-pay for him? Just based on potential?

It really doesn't look like Brees is going anywhere right way, and do the Saints want to match an overpay deal?
Bridgewater  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 1/3/2019 10:14 am : link
hasn't played in a real NFL game for 3 years, after a bad knee injury, and BBI wants to crucify him. GO figure.
Beez...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/3/2019 10:16 am : link
I don't know. At least when Cousins and Keenum were signed, they had results to point to.

What can people point to with Bridgewater - that he didn't look incompetent in preseason??

I can see somebody doing what the Saints did and sign him as a backup, but if you want to hand the reins to the guy - is there even a starting QB in the league where a team has done that currently? Even guys like McCown or Fitzpatrick had histories, and they aren't even starters now.

In any event, I hope  
Beezer : 1/3/2019 10:17 am : link
that doesn't turn out to be the Giants.

From my fan seat, there aren't a bunch of REALLY attractive options for the Giants at the moment. I don't like the idea of a QB with the first pick, or even the second, unless things dramatically change trough the combine/pro day workouts. And even then, how much info is that?

I dislike the FA options.

I'm a HUGE Eli Manning fan, but I really wince at the idea of watching him crumble in a collapsing pocket again.

My kingdom for a young, mobile, pocket passer!!!
RE: Bridgewater  
Beezer : 1/3/2019 10:20 am : link
In comment 14245742 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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hasn't played in a real NFL game for 3 years, after a bad knee injury, and BBI wants to crucify him. GO figure.


Who's crucifying the guy? I just =don't want him on our favorite football team. I think the risk is far too great based on (a) the injury, (b) its severity, (c) the fact that it happened in practice and was a non-contact injury (his knee just exploded), and then I get to (d) nothing he's done so far in 29 starts leads me to think he's a better quarterback option than Eli Manning, today.

How is that crucifixion?
He sucks  
KWALL2 : 1/3/2019 10:22 am : link
This was a huge game for him and he was awful. It wasnt about playing with backups. Thomas, Smith, and Watson played the whole game. Ingram played his usual rotation.

There was a QB prospect in that game who should interest the Giants. I would trade for Kyle Allen immediately. Hes a player.
LOL..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/3/2019 10:23 am : link
Kyle Allen likely isn't even in the Panthers plans.
RE: LOL..  
dep026 : 1/3/2019 10:32 am : link
In comment 14245772 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Kyle Allen likely isn't even in the Panthers plans.


I dont agree with Kwall on much.... but I think Allen was the type of guy we should have brought in late in the draft or as UDFA. The kid was ruined by Sumlin at A&M. But he has a lot of tools. More so than KL or DW ever had. IMO.
RE: Fats ...  
Jay on the Island : 1/3/2019 10:32 am : link
In comment 14245741 Beezer said:
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don't you think SOMEone is going to get stars in the eyes and over-pay for him? Just based on potential?

It really doesn't look like Brees is going anywhere right way, and do the Saints want to match an overpay deal?

No I could see one team giving him a 1 year prove it deal but nobody is going to commit big money to him when there are better options such as Nick Foles and Joe Flacco available. I hate to say it but if the Giants are going to move on from Eli and they want to compete then Foles is the only real option IMO. I would prefer that they get another 2020 1st round pick by trading down or trading away their 2nd this year in order to get one of the top QB's while Foles serves as the Giants starter for 2-3 years max.
in terms of durability  
upstatenyg : 1/3/2019 10:42 am : link
non injury and starting week after week

i think it is reasonable to think that it will be very very hard, if not impossible to replace Eli

A run of 15 seasons of starting cannot be the standard or no one can replace him
Not in their plans?  
KWALL2 : 1/3/2019 10:43 am : link
He is now.
RE: RE: Bridgewater  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 1/3/2019 10:45 am : link
In comment 14245760 Beezer said:
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In comment 14245742 BigBlueDownTheShore said:


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hasn't played in a real NFL game for 3 years, after a bad knee injury, and BBI wants to crucify him. GO figure.



Who's crucifying the guy? I just =don't want him on our favorite football team. I think the risk is far too great based on (a) the injury, (b) its severity, (c) the fact that it happened in practice and was a non-contact injury (his knee just exploded), and then I get to (d) nothing he's done so far in 29 starts leads me to think he's a better quarterback option than Eli Manning, today.

How is that crucifixion?


I never said I wanted him on the team. I just think BBI is blowing one game way out of proportion. He hasn't played any meaningful football since the 2015 season.

He certainly could go out and perform well in the future, I'm just not putting a ton of weight into 1 game.
Huh??  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/3/2019 10:51 am : link
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Not in their plans?
KWALL2 : 10:43 am : link : reply
He is now.


Maybe for trade bait. He will still go into the offseason as their 3rd QB. They are still high on Heinecke.

Allen played really well in a meaningless game
RE: He hasn't played in a game  
Toth029 : 1/3/2019 11:01 am : link
In comment 14245618 GiantsRage2007 said:
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In forever... not sure what people were expecting


They saw him put up decent numbers ib the preseason and got a woody for him.
We could do much worse  
KWALL2 : 1/3/2019 11:04 am : link
With our late round picks. Id offer something immediately for him.

Why not trade for Allen? He looks like a player. Better prospect going forward than Bridgewater who never really look good in the NFL. Looks a lot better than our backups too.

Allen can move too. You want a really athletic guy with a live arm and quic release? Here you go. Id trade a late round pick for him immediately.
RE: We could do much worse  
dep026 : 1/3/2019 11:05 am : link
In comment 14245854 KWALL2 said:
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With our late round picks. Id offer something immediately for him.

Why not trade for Allen? He looks like a player. Better prospect going forward than Bridgewater who never really look good in the NFL. Looks a lot better than our backups too.

Allen can move too. You want a really athletic guy with a live arm and quic release? Here you go. Id trade a late round pick for him immediately.


I agree. I wouldnt give up much for him. But he would be worth the risk. 7th rounder.
RE: We could do much worse  
Jay on the Island : 1/3/2019 11:09 am : link
In comment 14245854 KWALL2 said:
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With our late round picks. Id offer something immediately for him.

Why not trade for Allen? He looks like a player. Better prospect going forward than Bridgewater who never really look good in the NFL. Looks a lot better than our backups too.

Allen can move too. You want a really athletic guy with a live arm and quic release? Here you go. Id trade a late round pick for him immediately.

If he could be had for a 7th then sure but it wouldn't affect my draft plans at all. If the Giants like Haskins then he would still be the pick. In this scenario move on from Eli, sign a veteran to compete with Allen and Lauletta for the starting/primary backup roles, and redshirt Haskins. The loser of Lauletta and Allen are off to the PS.
I can't wait for the draft so this insanity about the Giants  
SterlingArcher : 1/3/2019 11:20 am : link
replacing Eli with every has been or never was! Brining in a mobile qb is out of necessity because the Giants oline is trash means one thing, fix the oline!
RE: Bridgewater seems like a great guy.  
Greg from LI : 1/3/2019 11:33 am : link
In comment 14245716 Beezer said:
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But is this the guy Giants fans want to land on after turning the page from the franchise's all-time best QB?


Huh? We already turned the page on Phil Simms 25 years ago.
It sounds like the only QB that anyone would be pleased with  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/3/2019 11:37 am : link
requires a time machine back to 2004 to go get.

The next QB for this team is not going to be Eli Manning, whether it's personality, health, or otherwise. It's just impossible. What he's done in terms of staying healthy is the equivalent of winning the powerball. It doesn't exist.


It's pro football. Players get hurt. It's a contact sport.
RE: Beez...  
Giantophile : 1/3/2019 1:31 pm : link
In comment 14245750 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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I don't know. At least when Cousins and Keenum were signed, they had results to point to.



I think the point is Teddy wouldn't make anywhere NEAR what those guys got. He wouldn't be signed as "the next franchise QB". He'd be in the "servicable starter while we acquire and groom the next franchise qb" role.

Whether he's actually a serviceable starter or not is a different discussion altogether.
Agree  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/3/2019 1:31 pm : link
Cousins had lots of stats to pad his resume.

Agree he didnt do himself any favors  
MetsAreBack : 1/3/2019 1:51 pm : link
but this talk about Thomas and Ingram playing - Ingram carried 5x and Thomas played a series or two. There was no motivation.

From a game plan perspective, even as they were trailing by 21 points, Payton only had him throw 19 times. It was a gameplan designed to keep the clock running and get back to the locker room as quickly as possible... from the opening kickoff, no matter what.

But yeah, a year prior in a similarly meaningless game, Patrick Mahomes wowed a lot of people against the Denver Broncos and helped lead to a decision to move on from Alex Smith. So from that perspective, Bridgewater didnt help his cause Sunday.
they won't judge him  
upstatenyg : 1/3/2019 2:38 pm : link
by this game, but i don't think a qb like TB is in their plans.

Seemd DG is more likely to use the draft, and restructure Eli to make some room for other signings, if they start 2 - 6, we'll see the new guy, if they are 6-2, Eli plays the whole season.

Bridgewater  
nochance : 1/3/2019 2:48 pm : link
What has he ever done? His best 14tds and 9ints and next 14td's and 12 ints. This was before the injury. He is nothing more than a game manager
Thomas played the entire game  
KWALL2 : 1/3/2019 3:10 pm : link
In fact more snaps in this game than any WR on the roster. I think it was about a record he was going for. He played all game. So did Smith and Watson. Ingram played his susualy 50% snaps.

The surrounding cast wasnt the issue. Bridgewater xokskbt get first downs.
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