Would Case Keenum be a viable option should Gettleman release Eli? The Broncos are in search of a new coach. The new guy may want his own guy. Keenum is only 30 yrs old and had success under Shurmer in Minnesota in 2017. He has the experience and mobility to be an asset at a reasonable price. This would also allow the 1st round pick to be a pass rusher or an offensive lineman. I believe Keenum received only a two year contract with Denver. Perhaps a second or third round draft choice could entice a trade possibility. I would rather go this route then Bridgewater.
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And is it really a question or just some ramblings about Shurmur and Keenum working together in the past?
I have to imagine that a certain number of these threads are started for the pure purpose of inciting the Eli squad, but it sure can be hard to separate the honest bad threads from the intentionally incendiary ones.
But I will tell you this - I think that Case K and Eli have about the same percentage chance of leading the Giants to playoffs next year - 0%.
That's the same chance that Kyle L has as well, at least he is ... what ... 1/50th of the price?
If they had built up a strong defense, a decent OL and still managed to retain Barkley and Beckham, then maybe. Expecting Keenum to carry you to anything just sounds like a recipe for disaster.
But I will tell you this - I think that Case K and Eli have about the same percentage chance of leading the Giants to playoffs next year - 0%.
That's the same chance that Kyle L has as well, at least he is ... what ... 1/50th of the price?
Eli has 0% chance ...
You did watch this season, yes? Where one of the worst defensive squads in the league allowed how many late scores to lose? Four?
I'm an Eli realist. But the guy wasn't bad this season, all things considered. The defense was the biggest issue, after the early O-line atrocities. Both of those things played directly against the perception of Eli's success.
I wonder how Eli Manning's stats look if the team finished 9-7, which was just a few plays away.
But to call yourself an Eli realist and know for a fact that an Eli Manning lead New York Giants have a realistic shot at making the playoffs next year is not realistic.
The O-line AND the defense will not be fixed next season. It will take a superhuman effort by another level QB to lead a NYG team in a modified version of what they have this year to the playoffs. Eli can't do that anymore - I'm sorry. 2011 Eli - sure. Not the 39 year old one that will QB next year.
Shumur has shown he can get moderately decent play out of Keenum.
That all said, I believe Eli will be back and this will all be meaningless talk.
But if Eli retires they'll go to a vet.
Holy cr@p. Lower end of vet starter money, but that's still a lot of cash for Keenum.
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Case Keenum signed a 2 year, 36 million dollar contract (25 guaranteed) with Denver.
Holy cr@p. Lower end of vet starter money, but that's still a lot of cash for Keenum.
And that's one of the major reasons I say it makes more sense to just keep Eli and draft his replacement, rather than cut Eli, because his dead money plus the amount of salary for the new placeholder vet will probably equal or exceed just keeping Eli.
So would you take the step down from Eli to Keenum for a similar, or bigger, cap hit?
The Giants should cut Eli. It's time.
I know many say that there aren't a lot of QB options out there, but that's not true. I see 3 viable ways to start 2019:
1. Lauletta is the starter
2. Draft a QB and make him the starter
3. Acquire a backup QB currently on another roster that is making less than $1M. These guys are all over the league. Here are some names to start:
Jacoby Brissett
Kyle Sloter
DeShone Kizer
Mason Rudolph
Josh Dobbs
Jeff Driskel
Taysom Hill
Nick Mullens
The point is, there are many options. It's just going to require some creativity and the front office getting out of its comfort zone for once.
The Giants should cut Eli. It's time.
I know many say that there aren't a lot of QB options out there, but that's not true. I see 3 viable ways to start 2019:
1. Lauletta is the starter
2. Draft a QB and make him the starter
3. Acquire a backup QB currently on another roster that is making less than $1M. These guys are all over the league. Here are some names to start:
Jacoby Brissett
Kyle Sloter
DeShone Kizer
Mason Rudolph
Josh Dobbs
Jeff Driskel
Taysom Hill
Nick Mullens
The point is, there are many options. It's just going to require some creativity and the front office getting out of its comfort zone for once.
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But I will tell you this - I think that Case K and Eli have about the same percentage chance of leading the Giants to playoffs next year - 0%.
That's the same chance that Kyle L has as well, at least he is ... what ... 1/50th of the price?
Eli has 0% chance ...
You did watch this season, yes? Where one of the worst defensive squads in the league allowed how many late scores to lose? Four?
I'm an Eli realist. But the guy wasn't bad this season, all things considered. The defense was the biggest issue, after the early O-line atrocities. Both of those things played directly against the perception of Eli's success.
I wonder how Eli Manning's stats look if the team finished 9-7, which was just a few plays away.
Can I have what you're smoking? I'm not talking about ELi-- I'm talking about the "which was just a few plays away" bullshit.
Some of you - your homerism knows no bounds. WHat about all the games they went against a 2nd string QB? That doesn't count, right? Yeah we would have beaten the Bears with their #1 QB.
Just think all those years when we were real good we'd play a sub-.44 team and win a tight game we'd say that we played down to the competition. SO now when we stink and lose a tough game it's not that the other team played down to us - so says our unbias fello Giants fans-- it's "we were just as good as them"nonsense.
**Next year with great moves and a crummy schedule anything can happen. But let's not pretend that this rotten team was just a few plays a way. They were FOUR GAMES away.
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Case Keenum signed a 2 year, 36 million dollar contract (25 guaranteed) with Denver.
Holy cr@p. Lower end of vet starter money, but that's still a lot of cash for Keenum.
And that's one of the major reasons I say it makes more sense to just keep Eli and draft his replacement, rather than cut Eli, because his dead money plus the amount of salary for the new placeholder vet will probably equal or exceed just keeping Eli.
So would you take the step down from Eli to Keenum for a similar, or bigger, cap hit?
What about
Trevor Siemian?
The Giants should cut Eli. It's time.
I know many say that there aren't a lot of QB options out there, but that's not true. I see 3 viable ways to start 2019:
1. Lauletta is the starter
2. Draft a QB and make him the starter
3. Acquire a backup QB currently on another roster that is making less than $1M. These guys are all over the league. Here are some names to start:
Jacoby Brissett
Kyle Sloter
DeShone Kizer
Mason Rudolph
Josh Dobbs
Jeff Driskel
Taysom Hill
Nick Mullens
The point is, there are many options. It's just going to require some creativity and the front office getting out of its comfort zone for once.
Agreed. That $17M saved by cutting Eli can be used for FA.