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“He’s saying he doesn’t see a future for Eli,” Herzlich told CBS Sports Radio’s “Taz & The Moose” show Thursday morning. “He wanted to stay as noncommittal as he possibly could, but you could tell he let his emotions kind of get in the way a little bit.” |
I think he already knows what he is going to do, and all that stuff about having to watch tape, is just due diligence
However, when asked about Beckham, Gettleman said, "We didn't sign him to trade him." When asked about Eli he said, "We're going to do what is best for the Giants."
So, I can see where Herzlich's opinion has some merit. He was definite that they were keeping Beckham, but gave a "we'll see" when asked about Eli. If you're a parent you know that 9 times out of 10 we'll see means no.
Exactly.
That's the way it works on BBI.
When a current or ex, player or coach, or even a beat writer shares their INFORMED opinion, and posters don't like what they hear, they immediately try to discredit the source.
He was on the team for way longer that he should have been as well.
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any of you, that's for sure.
Exactly.
That's the way it works on BBI.
When a current or ex, player or coach, or even a beat writer shares their INFORMED opinion, and posters don't like what they hear, they immediately try to discredit the source.
Why does Herzlich know more than we do? He's never played for a team that Dave Gettleman was GM of and I can't imagine he has any relationship with him. Why would he have any idea how he's going to handle the Eli situation?
Can someone remind me why that is in the least bit newsworthy? Herzlich was cut by Gettleman. It's not like he's his close friend or right hand man. He's just a guy that used to play for the Giants.
Maybe he finishes out his contract if no FA look like an improvement (better than even odds), but no more after 19. We've got to move on.
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any of you, that's for sure.
Exactly.
That's the way it works on BBI.
When a current or ex, player or coach, or even a beat writer shares their INFORMED opinion, and posters don't like what they hear, they immediately try to discredit the source.
A jeezus...as if people don't equally know that, likewise, *any* statement which validates your pre-existing viewpoint is from an authoritative source.
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any of you, that's for sure.
Exactly.
That's the way it works on BBI.
When a current or ex, player or coach, or even a beat writer shares their INFORMED opinion, and posters don't like what they hear, they immediately try to discredit the source.
Why does Herzlich know more than we do? He's never played for a team that Dave Gettleman was GM of and I can't imagine he has any relationship with him. Why would he have any idea how he's going to handle the Eli situation?
Actually not true. Herzlich was signed by Gettleman in March and was part of the September final cuts this year.
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any of you, that's for sure.
Exactly.
That's the way it works on BBI.
When a current or ex, player or coach, or even a beat writer shares their INFORMED opinion, and posters don't like what they hear, they immediately try to discredit the source.
Why does Herzlich know more than we do? He's never played for a team that Dave Gettleman was GM of and I can't imagine he has any relationship with him. Why would he have any idea how he's going to handle the Eli situation?
Actually not true. Herzlich was signed by Gettleman in March and was part of the September final cuts this year.
Not true?
Which football team was Dave Gettleman GM of that Mark Herzlich actually played for? All Gettleman did was cut him here. Herzlich played zero downs and there's no reason why he would be privy to any information that others wouldn't.
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any of you, that's for sure.
Exactly.
That's the way it works on BBI.
When a current or ex, player or coach, or even a beat writer shares their INFORMED opinion, and posters don't like what they hear, they immediately try to discredit the source.
Why does Herzlich know more than we do? He's never played for a team that Dave Gettleman was GM of and I can't imagine he has any relationship with him. Why would he have any idea how he's going to handle the Eli situation?
Actually not true. Herzlich was signed by Gettleman in March and was part of the September final cuts this year.
Not true?
Which football team was Dave Gettleman GM of that Mark Herzlich actually played for? All Gettleman did was cut him here. Herzlich played zero downs and there's no reason why he would be privy to any information that others wouldn't.
Well he signed him and cut him and there was a 6 month window in between those two.
I dont know what their relationship was in those 6 months, do you?
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any of you, that's for sure.
Exactly.
That's the way it works on BBI.
When a current or ex, player or coach, or even a beat writer shares their INFORMED opinion, and posters don't like what they hear, they immediately try to discredit the source.
Why does Herzlich know more than we do? He's never played for a team that Dave Gettleman was GM of and I can't imagine he has any relationship with him. Why would he have any idea how he's going to handle the Eli situation?
Actually not true. Herzlich was signed by Gettleman in March and was part of the September final cuts this year.
Not true?
Which football team was Dave Gettleman GM of that Mark Herzlich actually played for? All Gettleman did was cut him here. Herzlich played zero downs and there's no reason why he would be privy to any information that others wouldn't.
Well he signed him and cut him and there was a 6 month window in between those two.
I dont know what their relationship was in those 6 months, do you?
Seeing as Gettleman was busy dealing with cancer treatment at the time and we're discussing a crappy back end roster piece who didn't even make the team and wasn't picked up anywhere else... I'm going to go ahead and assume that the two of them didn't spend any time discussing Eli Manning's future or really anything regarding Gettleman's plans as GM.
I don’t think he’s made a decision. He may be evaluating the QB prospects now. He may have preliminary grades on them, but watching more tape may cause him to fall in love with one.
We aren’t picking at 1 or 2 this year, because if we were it would be a slam dunk we’d be taking Bosa or Quinnen Williams.
I take anything he says as coming directly from the owners box.
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any of you, that's for sure.
Exactly.
That's the way it works on BBI.
When a current or ex, player or coach, or even a beat writer shares their INFORMED opinion, and posters don't like what they hear, they immediately try to discredit the source.
hehe...was thinking the same thing!
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any of you, that's for sure.
Exactly.
That's the way it works on BBI.
When a current or ex, player or coach, or even a beat writer shares their INFORMED opinion, and posters don't like what they hear, they immediately try to discredit the source.
Why does Herzlich know more than we do? He's never played for a team that Dave Gettleman was GM of and I can't imagine he has any relationship with him. Why would he have any idea how he's going to handle the Eli situation?
Actually not true. Herzlich was signed by Gettleman in March and was part of the September final cuts this year.
Not true?
Which football team was Dave Gettleman GM of that Mark Herzlich actually played for? All Gettleman did was cut him here. Herzlich played zero downs and there's no reason why he would be privy to any information that others wouldn't.
Well he signed him and cut him and there was a 6 month window in between those two.
I dont know what their relationship was in those 6 months, do you?
Seeing as Gettleman was busy dealing with cancer treatment at the time and we're discussing a crappy back end roster piece who didn't even make the team and wasn't picked up anywhere else... I'm going to go ahead and assume that the two of them didn't spend any time discussing Eli Manning's future or really anything regarding Gettleman's plans as GM.
Didn't you spend literally all day yesterday trying to chastise me for putting forth opinion as fact (when I wasn't even doing that)? It's just funny that you know what information Herzlich has now for a fact and that it is nothing more than you or I have.
Interesting twist of fate when the shoe is on the other foot.
Carry on and have a blessed day.
It's not true unless Anthony Mix gives his opinion to Chris Canty about this.
That's such a hacky name for a radio show
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any of you, that's for sure.
Exactly.
That's the way it works on BBI.
When a current or ex, player or coach, or even a beat writer shares their INFORMED opinion, and posters don't like what they hear, they immediately try to discredit the source.
Why does Herzlich know more than we do? He's never played for a team that Dave Gettleman was GM of and I can't imagine he has any relationship with him. Why would he have any idea how he's going to handle the Eli situation?
Actually not true. Herzlich was signed by Gettleman in March and was part of the September final cuts this year.
Not true?
Which football team was Dave Gettleman GM of that Mark Herzlich actually played for? All Gettleman did was cut him here. Herzlich played zero downs and there's no reason why he would be privy to any information that others wouldn't.
Well he signed him and cut him and there was a 6 month window in between those two.
I dont know what their relationship was in those 6 months, do you?
Seeing as Gettleman was busy dealing with cancer treatment at the time and we're discussing a crappy back end roster piece who didn't even make the team and wasn't picked up anywhere else... I'm going to go ahead and assume that the two of them didn't spend any time discussing Eli Manning's future or really anything regarding Gettleman's plans as GM.
Didn't you spend literally all day yesterday trying to chastise me for putting forth opinion as fact (when I wasn't even doing that)? It's just funny that you know what information Herzlich has now for a fact and that it is nothing more than you or I have.
Interesting twist of fate when the shoe is on the other foot.
Carry on and have a blessed day.
And with that - it remains clear that you still haven't figured out the difference between opinion and fact.
I said I am going to assume that Dave Gettleman was not spending time discussing the future of his franchise QB with a camp body who was never going to even make the team. I think it's a more logical assumption to make than the contrary. I didn't say anything was factual. I'm telling you what I think. Incredible that you're still struggling with such a basic concept.
I tried to not be a dick to you yesterday, but you make it really really hard. You're an extremely irritating person to try discussing virtually anything with.
Have a blessed day, dipshit.
"Dave Gettleman did not discuss anything regarding Eli Manning with Mark Herzlich"
or, like you did yesterday, say...
"Odell Beckham doesn't care about the Giants"
Those are opinions stated as facts. Saying I am assuming something is me telling you that it's my opinion.
Let me know when this makes sense to you. I feel like I'm trying to speak to a child.
I can't decide which is more pathetic. Actually not understanding the difference, or being so bored to troll a message board over a premise like this. Either way, it's no surprise that everyone who interacts with this guy has the same general reaction.
If they wanted him to QB next year why the delay? What is there to analyze and decide?
I lurked for years before joining this site!
I know my pre-season picks for MVP.
I also remember when Herzlich, Jaquian Williams and Spencer Paysinger were THE FUTURE at linebacker.
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He's just a troll.
I can't decide which is more pathetic. Actually not understanding the difference, or being so bored to troll a message board over a premise like this. Either way, it's no surprise that everyone who interacts with this guy has the same general reaction.
It is just ironic that is all. Before I called it to your attention your comment was:
"Herzlich played zero downs and there's no reason why he would be privy to any information that others wouldn't."
I don't see where you say that you "assume" that he has no reason.....or "I believe that there is no reason"
What is good for the goose is apparently not good for the gander that's all.
I actually don't think there is anything wrong with what you wrote. It is a message board it is obviously your opinion. Unless you are secretly Mark Herzlich or Dave Gettleman you can't know any of this as fact. Hence the point I was making yesterday- we all have our opinions. Yours is fine just like mine and I respect it.
Carry on.
He does, he's been in radio for quite some time, working his way up at a glacial pace.
Apparently the guy is a real douchebag in person.