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How Giants, Eli Manning could come together on money front

GFAN52 : 1/4/2019 7:52 pm
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Here is the best-case scenario for the Giants: See if their 38-year-old quarterback will accept a small cut he can earn back. To see how that works, Eli can stay in the family and review how older brother Peyton handled it in 2015.

The Broncos, concerned with the health, durability and performance of Peyton Manning, who had undergone complicated neck surgery four years earlier, wanted him back, but at a reduced price. They took $4 million off his base salary and converted it into incentives not likely to be earned: $2 million for getting to the Super Bowl and $2 million for winning the Super Bowl. It turned out to be a perfect match, as the Broncos’ defense carried Peyton Manning to a Super Bowl triumph and he earned back the $4 million taken off his salary.

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Pretty sure Eli isn’t going to bank on his defense doing the same  
Ssanders9816 : 1/4/2019 8:00 pm : link
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The Giants Defense?  
Giant John : 1/5/2019 7:30 am : link
What a novel concept. LOL!
Pay cut and earn back...I like that  
Jimmy Googs : 1/5/2019 8:25 am : link
How about he takes a $8M pay cut and earns $1M back for each win versus Wash and Dallas and $2M for each win versus Philly...
Yeah  
Zepp : 1/5/2019 8:38 am : link
if I were him I wouldn't bet on the SB but that is a good idea to work around. Maybe some combo of wins and playoff appearances/wins could do the trick.
You would have to  
Doomster : 1/5/2019 9:17 am : link
extend him first.....
so extend him  
fkap : 1/5/2019 10:01 am : link
just don't give him much signing bonus/other guarantees that will bite us in the ass in future years.

hmmm  
giantfan2000 : 1/5/2019 10:05 am : link
isn't this what Brady did this past year ?
and missed out on 5 million because of his performance
Extend Eli for another year  
since1925 : 1/5/2019 10:43 am : link

Give him 6 million, 3 mil signing bonus and 3 mil salary in 2020.

That knocks his cap hit for 2019 to about 14.5 million, so the NYG get 8.5 million cap relief in 2019.

Keep him in 2020 and his cap hit for 2020 would be about 13 million. Cut him an his cap number is 10 mil.

I am a little fuzzy on these numbers - and Eli may not go for it -- but it makes sense for both sides.

And if .... Eli has a suberb 2019, you can adjust slightly up by adding another year without killing the cap.


Again, why would Eli sign an incentive laden contract with this team?  
Ssanders9816 : 1/5/2019 11:02 am : link
They’ve shown no propensity to fix things outside of like one year in the last ten.
Seems folks are overthinking this  
BillT : 1/5/2019 11:49 am : link
He's got a $5m roster bonus due. As him to forgo it.
Easy fix  
GeoMan999 : 1/5/2019 12:08 pm : link
obviously each party has to want to do it and save face, especially Eli. So converting the $5 million bonus to individual incentives (example: making the playoffs, getting 10 wins, and exceeding 30 points at least 12 games a year) makes perfect sense. Win- win.
RE: Easy fix  
Ssanders9816 : 1/5/2019 12:25 pm : link
In comment 14248123 GeoMan999 said:
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obviously each party has to want to do it and save face, especially Eli. So converting the $5 million bonus to individual incentives (example: making the playoffs, getting 10 wins, and exceeding 30 points at least 12 games a year) makes perfect sense. Win- win.


Again, why would he do that? The front office has never shown the dedication to fix the team around him in the past. Why would now be any different? He owes them nothing.
Yup  
micky : 1/5/2019 1:16 pm : link
The defense will be fixed overnight..plus Ol
RE: Pay cut and earn back...I like that  
mrvax : 1/5/2019 1:31 pm : link
In comment 14247961 Jimmy Googs said:
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How about he takes a $8M pay cut and earns $1M back for each win versus Wash and Dallas and $2M for each win versus Philly...



I'd like that.
the Giants  
fkap : 1/5/2019 4:34 pm : link
have tried repeatedly to fix the team around Eli. There was no lack of dedication. The problem is that Reese and Coughlin weren't up to the task. Gettleman has had a year, and he tried. FA didn't really go well.

Who knows if Eli has faith in Gettleman to effect a fix, but the effort is there.

As to why Eli would accept a paycut with incentives to make it back: it could be preferable to being cut and potentially making less on the open market.
RE: Again, why would Eli sign an incentive laden contract with this team?  
BlueLou'sBack : 1/5/2019 11:59 pm : link
In comment 14248064 Ssanders9816 said:
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They’ve shown no propensity to fix things outside of like one year in the last ten.


Because the alternative is getting cut outright before his whatever guarantee/bonus kicks in the end of March... And maybe no team is interested in him as a starter...
Or what fkap wrote  
BlueLou'sBack : 1/6/2019 12:00 am : link
above.
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